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Hacks - Round III

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munkle said:
I don't get why some people got infected and I never even saw one pop up. I have run a mse scan everyday and I even did malwarebtyes and nothing. Were they not targeting everybody?
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It has something to do with your browser. We had a similar problem over at EvAv and I could not duplicate the error using Firefox or IE8, but I had staff members who would get the Java pop-up every single time they hit the page.

Made troubleshooting it a total bear.
 
nobody_here said:
so i am still getting warnings from Chrome saying there is content on the site that has been considered malicious......

When will we know that its safe?
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There is no malicous code on our site and has not been since 6:30am Sat morning. You might try clearing your cache.
 
Hackers are awesome. They sit in their mothers basements all day and try to get attention by hacking sites. No one will ever know you n00b, go find a job and a woman and stop trying to get attention with hacking :)
 
Scanned both machines with NOD32, found nothing. I don't think I clicked on anything. I normally click no/cancel on everything, but if it popped up on a site I trust(like this) I could have.

That being said I have no reason to suspect me being infected and I trust NOD32, so I think I'm good.
 
OEM said:
Having two anti viruis programs on a machine is a recipe for failure of apocalyptic proportions.
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But scanning just once an uninstalling is worse than allowing a suspect virus to be on your pc?
 
munkle said:
But scanning just once an uninstalling is worse than allowing a suspect virus to be on your pc?
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Considering Nod32 is considered one of the best anti virus programs on the market I'm willing to not uninstall Nod32, install MSE, uninstall MSE and then reinstall Nod32.
 
Run a scan with MSE and then do a full scan with Malwarebytes.
 
OEM said:
Is there some reason I shouldn't trust Nod32 at this point? Was it that bad? I do have a fully updated Win7 + Nod32.
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nothing is bad about it, but nowadays you just can't rely on just one AV solution, you have to use more that one, that is one antivirus, and at least one antispyware ;)
 
OEM said:
Having two anti viruis programs on a machine is a recipe for failure of apocalyptic proportions.
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That may be true with certain programs, but I haven't found any conflicts with having MSE, Avira and Malwarebytes all installed. I just don't run active scans with them all at the same time. MSE and Avira both do live protection, again, I haven't had any problems.

SuperAntiSpyware was pretty useless, since all it ever did was complain about cookies, so I uninstalled it after the last infection said it had hit that prog.

ComboFix saved my butt once, but I don't consider it an everyday AV.

But I agree with leSLIe, not every AV prog picks up everything. Sometimes one will get something another will not. And always, always, always update your definitions before each and every scan. Well, unless you've been hit and are forced to boot into safe mode, then you run everything you've got as is, reboot, update definitions, and run everything again.

Since the recent issues here, I've been updating and running full scans on all three progs daily.
 
 
I was running chrome the other day when it happened, saw the white square on the logo and didnt get back on. Never a popup or anything, used ccleaner and I dont have java installed. Nothing came from Windows Defender, I think im safe?
 
Tolyngee said:
It would be part of the OS then if that was the case...

Besides, their OS is insecure, nothing to see here...
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Most of Microsoft's first-party applications are not part of the OS, including free ones. Including more stuff would also be a problem for them in the EU, since they were already forced to sell versions of Windows without WMP due to competition laws. The fact that MSE is completely free is a pretty good indication of Microsoft's intentions toward security, I think.

If their OS was so insecure, I would have been infected during one of the several dozen times I visited this forum while it was compromised. The only protection on my PC is MSE, and that managed to completely prevent anything bad from happening. I think that qualifies as pretty secure.

Anyway, this is starting to get off-topic.
 
Yes, let get off of Windows not being secure, since Vista / 7 it has changed a great deal, so much so it out lasts OSX even

Any Os is only as secure as the person using it.

Most of those links are just the makers not wanting you to actually run 2, they want you to run theirs, i would love to see some real testing with todays AV programs to see what the long terms affects could be, all i am seeing is companies saying dont do it.. cause they say so.
 
Zero82z said:
Most of Microsoft's first-party applications are not part of the OS, including free ones. Including more stuff would also be a problem for them in the EU, since they were already forced to sell versions of Windows without WMP due to competition laws. The fact that MSE is completely free is a pretty good indication of Microsoft's intentions toward security, I think.
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If you look at Windows as a car, you're equating the car stereo to the lock and keys? Really? Car stereos have options galore, but being able to lock your car is standard.

If MS wanted to make security mandatory, the EU isn't going to stop them. Please.


Zero82z said:
If their OS was so insecure, I would have been infected during one of the several dozen times I visited this forum while it was compromised. The only protection on my PC is MSE, and that managed to completely prevent anything bad from happening. I think that qualifies as pretty secure.
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MSE is your only protection, and you are that confident that it has prevented everything?

If MS is advising people to remove all other security software in lieu of their own, then yes, they indeed want their OS less secure. Under my point better now?
 
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