Could kick myself now for not buying a 3090 last fall when I had the chance, at the time I figured it was safer to wait and hopefully avoid space-invaders / early adopter issues.Looking at the sold prices for 3090s on ebay....people are really paying 3k+ for video cards. And of course I had to leave literally tens of them in my cart/cancel them back in Dec/Jan...this insanity has truly has no end.
I mean is there even a limit that will not be breached at this point? 5k? 10k?
Any love/rejection letters from NE yet?
IDK gamer supreme I suppose.Is it a supreme liquid cooler or just for gamer supremes?
It was supposed to have been a quiet release to give Team Red members a chance to get one. Then sites started running news of it up the flagpoles, which just opened the door for bots to be made ready.did anyone attempt to get 6800xt midnight edition from AMD.com/digital river cluster fuck?
Newegg is certainly overcharging, but it's still a bit different from scalping. We've reached the threshold where retailers have realized the supply is so low that they can charge in line with scalpers, and rely on the benefits they provide that a scalper does not (an actual store and record so you get a receipt and warranty, a return window, etc.) Worst case they know the bots will eat them up even if no one selects them in the shuffle.Newegg is pricing me out of the shuffle.
Even for mining intent I'm not willing to pay $1000 for a 3070 card and a random bundled lesser chipset motherboard.
3070's mine no better than 3060TI for ETH, and 3060TIs were supposed to be < $400. Newegg isn't scalping as hard as ebay, but every shuffle the prices seem to tick up, and make no mistake - Newegg is scalping.
I'll disagree.Newegg is certainly overcharging, but it's still a bit different from scalping. We've reached the threshold where retailers have realized the supply is so low that they can charge in line with scalpers, and rely on the benefits they provide that a scalper does not (an actual store and record so you get a receipt and warranty, a return window, etc.) Worst case they know the bots will eat them up even if no one selects them in the shuffle.
Considerations for mining and old pricing are no longer valid. Those prices are gone and will never return. It's entirely possible 3060s will be 1k retail by the end of the year, with other cards hilariously higher than that. or the market will reach a plateau and prices will normalize or even fall, but that is unlikely.
Or everyone gets word of the next darling coin, and they all jump on that coin to skyrocket its price, and we're exactly where we are with ETH. With only a few hours of downtime for miners. I really, really hope I am wrong.I'll disagree.
If ETH EIP 1559 takes place in July as expected, you'll start seeing cards available in a massive way at that time, because the crypto miners will stop having interest in buying more new cards, and in the few months that follow you'll see the secondary markets flood with ampere cards. Nvidia has already said to point in time in product launch they've manufactured and sold more cards than in the Pascal or Turing generation. So with that in mind there have been a LOT of ampere cards sold - even though we wouldn't know it as a Joe American customer who can't buy a card through traditional channels.
If EIP 1559 takes place it'll drop profitability for crypto mining immensely. All the GPU hashing power targeting the most profitable coin, ETH, will move to other altcoins, and begin to slowly dilute those profits to the point there is nothing significantly profitable against the cost of electricity and heat generation against Air Conditioning this summer. GPUs will be liquidated on the secondary markets thereafter as we saw in late 2018 and 2019. This will take a couple months to unfold after the July implementation, but it will occur if EIP 1559 is implemented.
Three main things could prevent this prediction:
- ETH skyrockets in price. Say doubles or triples current value.
- BTC skyrockets in price. (BTC is the crypto tide that lifts all alt-coin ships)
- EIP 1559 enforcement is delayed, or cancelled.
The horizon to ROI $1000 3070 cards is drawing tighter by the day if EIP 1559 implementation stays on schedule. It's tight enough now I don't want to hassle with it. Cards at MSRP or closer will still ROI. At this point, for this overpriced cards - you are starting to gamble against known coming restrictions.
I do agree that this demand will set MSRP prices higher again next generation -- regardless of manufacturing costs.
As a reluctant miner, I hope you're wrong and the craze dies down in July. Would like to use my hard fought for 3090 for you know, gaming, instead gaming on my 3060 SFF rig since the 3090 is too valuable for mining lol. Amazed though that this little thing can pump out Doom Eternal TAG P2 at a solid 75 fps+ at 3840x1600 in ultra nightmare mode, I think my old 2070s had some trouble with it though supposedly faster.Or everyone gets word of the next darling coin, and they all jump on that coin to skyrocket its price, and we're exactly where we are with ETH. With only a few hours of downtime for miners. I really, really hope I am wrong.
Alternatively, that could just mean more scalpers will scoop up the cards, and we're in exactly the same situation as we are now.
My Bday coupon expired last week. I just couldn't find anything that was allowed that was a good deal that I wantedThese have been going in and out of stock past few days, and even in the past hour. 3070 version comes with an ASUS Dual 3070, the 3080 version supposedly comes with a TUF 3080. The 3080 version is obviously the better buy. If you have a BB birthday coupon, now's the time.
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