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flatmate fried his comp hehe

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egon_dude

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ok guys, major problem here. One of my flatmates- who thinks he knows a lot about pcs but doesnt- decided to fit a new hsf on top of his xp2400+. After buying a pentium one and having to send it back, he finally got an aero7 lite for amd, but instead of waiting for one of us to help him out, he dived right in and now his comp is dead. I came home last night to find his comp in bits over his bedroom floor, dead.
Ive checked all the power leads, made sure the switch was plugged in the mobo, unplugged everything and plugged it back in again to check he hadnt dislodged anything, taken the cpu out and put it back in, cleared cmos. The power button appears to do nothing, although one time the fan spun for a few revs.
Theres only three things i can see it being- switch, mobo dead (its a crappy ECS one) or the PSU somehow got fried. I might test these out this afternoon, but im kinda reluctant to start taking my sytem apart to solve his screw up.
Can you guys think of anything obvious that changing tha hsf could do?
cheers
 
you mean besides frying the CPU due to improper contact?

maybe he cut a path on the board.
 
well, it seems to me that he fried the cpu, and probably took the board with it
 
I guess the one thing you could do is try plugging your cpu into his board to see if it boots, this way you could tell if he just needs a new chip or a new mobo and chip. But of Course thats a pain in the butt for you :)
 
i think he may well have fried the cpu.
Neither me nor my other flatmate mark wanted to take our cpu's out as taking HSF and cpus out is one of those "avoid at all costs" things to do, and my PSU is virtually impossible to take out as all the cables are zip tied in and nice and tidy. We didnt want to test his PSU on our mobos incase they got fried, so we ended up convincing him to buy a new mobo, and went on a road trip to Overclockers UK (possibly not such a good idea as i ended up buying another 120gig HD and my other flatmate bought a 9800pro :D ) and he got a nice new abit NF7.
After we put it all together, we held our breaths and nothing happened. A light on the back of the mobo came on and the NIC started flashing so we think the psu is probably ok.
Hes gonna love me telling him hes got to buy a new CPU . . . lol
 
Well with the NF7 and the Aero7 at least he can overclock the CPU nicely if he gets a Barton :D.
 
why by aero7 when you can buy JET 7 :D (same thing, only better). have you looked at the cpu closely and made sure its not chipped/cracked? it was probebly the crappy mobo. maybe you got some electro magnetic static discharge or whatever the kids call it nowadays.
 
You could always try the paper clip trick to on the psu to see if it still works just hook a bunch of fans up to it before you plug it in. You can find the info on how to do the psu trick in the "cool cases forum" in the first sticky. If the psu powers up and spins the fans I'd vote the mobo and or the cpu is dead.
 
cheers guys!
jamestime- he bought an aero7 cos he doesnt know what hes buying- he basically like dthe fact it was blue ;)

good idea about the psu- i'll try that 2moro when he gets back. After i qizzed hima bit more about what he'd done to the comp- it turns out hed put the hsf on the wrong way round so the base of the heat sink wasnt properly in contact with the cpu, and turned the comp on before he realised. the next time he tried, it didnt work. Im thinking the cpu has probably been fried.
Shame really- now my mate has got a 9800pro all the graphics card in our flat (apart from mine) got upgraded through people handing stuff down- now we can all play lan BF1942 :D
 
By using that method, is it possible to shock yourself even with the power unplugged by putting in the paperclip from the green wire to the black wire? Or will you not get shocked from that, only if you were messing on the inside of it?
 
its kinda like connecting jumper cables for a car, just make sure you do black first.
By using that method, is it possible to shock yourself even with the power unplugged by putting in the paperclip from the green wire to the black wire? Or will you not get shocked from that, only if you were messing on the inside of it?
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put the hsf on the wrong way round so the base of the heat sink wasnt properly in contact with the cpu, and turned the comp on before he realised.
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Well, problem solved. Did he mention how much smoke the CPU let out when he turned it on whith the heatsink on backwards?;)

I cracked a core on a Duron 800 last year when I bought a new motherboard and HSF for it. :eek: Stuff happens. I got the same symptoms too. Dead, with no beeps or anything. Popped a new cpu into the board and it fired right up.

Good luck.

Don
 
problem solved- the psu was dead. tried the paperclip trick and nothing happened- plugged the atx cable from my mates psu into his mobo and its ok. Upshot of this was (and he rushed out early this morning to buy a 2500+ lol) is that weve got all the bits to build a block lan server- well we just need a case and hard disk- so battlefield is gonna run so much better :)
 
Someone who lives in the same flat(condo or apartment) I would guess.
 
To test the PSU, throw a paperclip into the green & black wire connects. If it (and everything else, like hard drives/etc) revs up, it's still good.

Check for any wear and tear. The AMD heatsinks can be a pain in the royal ass to get on I've found. So he may have pressed to hard and snapped the board.

Ask if he put thermal paste on it (most HSF's come with it).

Overall, it's not going to be *that* expensive of an overhaul. The 1800+ including a ECS mobo goes for about $79.99 ($69.99 on sale days) locally as a combo. You already have the HSF :)

He could always upgrade to a 2400+ w/ECS Mobo. Someone here at work wanted me to fix his comp. In-order to do so, he needed another mobo. He went (ignoring my suggestion) and bought it from a computer-only parts store (high prices). They sold him a Chaintech mobo w/900mhz Duron and HSF for $89.99! After struggling with that thing to get it to accept the ram (it's a very picky mobo), I told him to simply return it and listen to me this time. He did so, and we waited another 3 weeks for the Fry's prices to flucuate (this is a good tactic when dealing with Fry's). On that weekend, an Athlon 2400+ w/ECS mobo was $129.99. By waiting 2 more weeks, it had dropped to $84.99. Good deal if you ask me.
 
enderW- yeah a "flatmate" is a person you share a "flat" (apartment) with- i didnt realise that was just a british term lol :)

Spidey- After he rushed out first thing this morning (before id even got out of bed) to overclockersUK (decent store with good website prices) to buy a new CPU- he came back with a 2500+ to go on his new nf7- we tested the old mobo and cpu and they work fine, somehow the PSU had suddenly died and i have no idea why.
We got some spare parts from home, and combined with a few bits weve got lying around here were gonna make a battlefield server so we can waste some more of the time we're meant to be working . . .;)
 
Originally posted by Punkrulz
By using that method, is it possible to shock yourself even with the power unplugged by putting in the paperclip from the green wire to the black wire? Or will you not get shocked from that, only if you were messing on the inside of it?
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well I haven't gotten shocked (or killed) yet, so I guess not :D
 
somehow the PSU had suddenly died and i have no idea why
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Well, there is 1 thing you need to remember when dealing with ATX power supplies. Even when the computer is "OFF", if you have the power supply plugged in, there is still some juice getting to the motherboard to power the power on circuits. Plugging and unplugging the motherboard power connector, or pci cards for that matter can be fatal if the ac cord is not unplugged first. I've forgotten plenty of times, and have never killed anything, but it's always possible.

Besides, even if you follow all the rules, and do everything right, sometimes electronic parts just quit working. I've been doing electronic repairs for 20 years now and have seen plenty of mysteriously deadparts.

Don
 
How hard is it, really, to put an AMD heatsink on? As long as you don't rush through it and have a study hand, it's no problem. Your friend seems to have made out very well through this encounter. MY question is...how did he kill the PSU by putting the HSF on wrong?
 
lol
i dunno. i got back the other nite from a trip to the cinema with my gf and his comp was in bits on his bedroom floor. I have no idea what he did to it or why- i semi put the important bits back together and it didnt work- then went to bed cos it was late and i couldnt be bothered with it.
Led to a funny couple of days of messing around with comp parts, but it works now after replacing the psu . . .
 
He didn't kill the PSU by putting the HSF wrong, he killed his CPU... and in case you aren't certain, he killed the CPU because the HSF was not making the best contact with the CPU, therefore not providing the best "thermal conductivity"... CPU gets hot, hotter, and insanely hot, and then boom, doesn't work.

See, it's all up to the user whether it's hard or easy... one thing you have to be careful for is crushing the CPU, because basically you put a clip around one side, and you end up pushing this thick metal piece down on the other side to secure it... it's very easy to apply too MUCH force and crush the core, which is again easy I say, easy! So it's a matter of getting it on right, using a screw driver and putting that in the tab so you can push the metal piece down.
 
Originally posted by Supchaka
flatmate= someone you get horizontal with
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errrr, no.

lol

punkrulz- weve tested the mobo and cpu and they still work- so he did kill the psu.
 
Just in case someone has missed something, the MB/CPU/HS are fine. IT'S THE POWER SUPPLY that got fried!!!

....that should work....:)
 
so as stated test the pcu to make sure, (take a paper clip or something, and jump the green to the back on the mobo power connector)

there is no way to shock yourself, (just like you dont get electricuted for touching both ends of a battery)

good luck
 
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