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First Watercooling Set Up

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Grenst

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So I was thinking of getting water cooling for my system. The main reason for getting water cooling is because having fans is too loud and for w/e reason, I can't sleep with them near me and I need to leave my computer running 99% of the time because of streaming files to friends and my self at work, figured water cooling is cheaper than buying a second computer to host the files :D

System build -
Motherboard - Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L (Intel P35)
Graphics Card - nVidia GeForce 8800GTS 320MB
RAM - 4x Corsair XMS2 1GB DDR2 800
PCU - Intel C2Duo E6600 2.5GHz
PSU - Rosewill RP550-2 550W
Case - Rosewill TU-155-P ( for now, if room is needed I will go back to my Cooler Master RC-590-KKN1-GP mid-tower )
Dual 22" Monitors [ Asus VW223B (L) - Asus VW224U (R) ]


What I'm thinking of getting for water cooling...

Logisys CCFL 12in Dual UV Cathode ( a must )
Thermaltake BW 760i (pump / reservoir / radiator / LGA755 block)
Koolance RAM-35 x4
Koolance HD-60 ( Thin 0.85cm ) /// HD-57 ( Thick 2.30cm)
Koolance CHC-122 ( Northbridge )
Koolance CHC-125 ( Southbridge )
Koolance GPU-200 + Koolance HTS-GP001P ( GPU RAM )


I have been reading more and more that Thermaltake isn't exactly what I want to buy but I'm not too sure about how to put a pump, a radiator and a reservoir together (as in what will work and what wont work if i put them together). Any input on what I should get instead of a part I listed would be greatly appreciated :D
 
Everything you need:

http://www.petrastechshop.com/swh2apullico.html

Do not use thermaltake least u want fried computer parts.



And your personal experience with the Tt 760i kit is with how many ? how long ?

Mine Tt kit has worked fine for 2 1/2 years with excellent results. Now I personally dont like the bay mounted stuff regardless of who makes it because typically the pumps are anemic and the tubing is generally small so I too do not care for the 760i kit.
 
Are the other koolance blocks worth getting for cooling the hard drives, etc...?
 
Why would you want to use koolance blocks? There are so many better alternatives...
 
I don't really know of any other "alternatives". I'm new to the whole water cooling thing.
 
Grenst said:
I don't really know of any other "alternatives". I'm new to the whole water cooling thing.
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check out sidewindercomputers.com

other brands out there are swiftech, feser, aqua computer, danger den, ek, dtek, and probably more

there's also jab-tech.com, frozencpu.com, petrastechshop.com but i say sidewinder because Gary that owns it is very friendly and helpful. i met him tonight to pick up some nozzles that i didn't wanna wait to have delivered. he's up pretty late at night and is quick with shipping and emails.
 
It would probably be cheaper to buy a really good air heatsinks like the TRUE and the Thermalright HR-03 for your GPU.

Also there is no reason to water cool the ram or the south bridge or the HDDs with water. You really dont even need to watercool the northbridge unless your going for insane OC.
 
@Bill,

No disrespect, but the general consensus is that TT stuff is horrible quality overall. You may have gotten lucky, but from things that I've seen and read, don't let people use thermaltake.

I had an earlier TT kit way way back, was one of those external mounts, and it was horrible. I think it lasted 5 months? before it gunked up and I threw it away and gave up on WC for awhile before seriously investing time and money on a quality WC setup. Now of course to you, that probably means nothing as seen from the post you made in an earlier thread of wanting ACTUAL statistics/facts, but my experience is that it's a no no.

@OP
Is there a reason you want to use all koolance? Do you have a budget?
 
nissanztt90 said:
It would probably be cheaper to buy a really good air heatsinks like the TRUE and the Thermalright HR-03 for your GPU.

Also there is no reason to water cool the ram or the south bridge or the HDDs with water. You really dont even need to watercool the northbridge unless your going for insane OC.
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I disagree, watercooling the northbridge is worth it....but I'll agree that watercooling the HDDS, southbridge, etc. not so worth it.

@OP, I got an open box asus rampage x48 board for $159 recently, and I still think the deal is going on. Slap a Swiftech NB Max Waterblock on there it will essentially cool the NB, SB, and mosfets quite effectively. Ocing to 3.6 on my quad...my NB temps stay
around 36-40c depending on ambient temps. It's peace of mind and if you plan to keep your system for a while, and are spending the dough to watercool it, you might as well watercool the NB.

Any way just stick to swiftech / d-tek blocks and considering your system, you can probably just get a way with a cheap xspc triple or dual rad.
 
The problem with WCing NB/SB is that it's really not necessary vs a good NB cooler such as a thermalright HR-05 SLI Wildfire Inferno.

I also chose not to cool the NB/SB because one, the blocks are expensive because I use compression fittings and my NB/SB temps stay at 40C all day. It'll be lower once I move my yates to my HDD cage to blow air onto the GPU/SB/NB area and replace my rad fans with s-flexes ;)
 
soulesschild said:
@OP
Is there a reason you want to use all koolance? Do you have a budget?
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There's really no budget, but I don't want to spend like $600 on a system that isn't even THAT powerful.


Also I guess it doesn't make sense for me to get the SB and NB blocks but I would like my hard drives to be cooled since it would extend their life.
 
Grenst said:
There's really no budget, but I don't want to spend like $600 on a system that isn't even THAT powerful.


Also I guess it doesn't make sense for me to get the SB and NB blocks but I would like my hard drives to be cooled since it would extend their life.
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Strap a fan in front of the HDD's. They dont need to be cooled to preserve their life unless your case gets extremely hot inside.

Unless your OCing...forget the northbridge. Even if you are OCing...a Thermalright HR-05 is a better choice IMHO. It can be run passively with very good cooling, or with a low speed fan that will keep it as cool as water would...and you dont have to worry about making tight tubing runs and turns.
 
Grenst said:
There's really no budget, but I don't want to spend like $600 on a system that isn't even THAT powerful.


Also I guess it doesn't make sense for me to get the SB and NB blocks but I would like my hard drives to be cooled since it would extend their life.
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This is actually a misconception. Hard drives at too low of a temperature will actually damage them. HDDs are one of the few computer components that need to be warm to operate efficiently.

Here's the part list I would do.

XSPC RX360 Triple Rad, good price point, good cooling, you can use a swiftech MCR320-QP if you want to save about 50 bucks though, but this allows expandibility

Swiftech GTZ CPU Block, great block, highly recommended, enough said

MCP355, high head pump, though you can switch in a D5, but you'll need a separate RES, and not sure if you have enough mounting space for it

XSPC Res/Custom Top for the MCP355, removes the need to buy and mount a separate res, also increases the head pressure/flow of the MCP355

Duralene 1/2 ID x 3/4 OD tubing, made by Saint Gobain, same makers of Tygon, but infinitely cheaper, you'll need about 10-15 feet of this. Better to over estimate/have extra in case you mess up

For the XSPC Res top inlet port, because if you just screw compression fittings on, it blocks the fill port. But if you use barbs, this doesn't really matter

Bitspower 1/2 x 3/4 Compression Fittings, secure your hoses securely so you don't run the risk of leaking/hoses popping off, also looks much better/secure than zip-ties/worm clamps IMO, but you can avoid these if you want to save money

High speed yates that you can put on a fan controller, on sale right now for 4/$20. Use the extra as a case fan or sell it off :p

Total Price: $316.55 /w with Swiftech MCR-320QP. if you want the XSPC rad, add about 30 dollars for this complete, extremely expandable, and kick-ass water cooling set.

Also here is a fan controller that also lets you see the RPM Scythe Kaze Master ACE fan controller, silver 39.95

Note: I don't have ram WC parts because, ram doesn't need WCing. It's the most restrictive, most waste of money, and frankly useless. Just have good case air flow.

Also, if you want to have the UV reactive stuff. Switch out the Saint-Gobain Duralene tubing for this, Primochill LRT UV Reactive Blue Tubing, it's 2 dollars/foot, but it means you can use pure distilled water, and still have awesome UV reactive tubes. There's also other colors, found here Jab-Tech Primochill Tubing I'd go with the LRT ones because I feel that their more flexible when you want to make loops around stuff. Though you can go with the normal UV tubing if you want to save a bit of money and aren't making a hugely complicated loop. Though if you want to cool the 8800 GTS, I'd recommend the LRT tubing because sometimes connecting the tubes between the two is a pain in the ass.

Also, I didn't recommend a VGA block because I can't think of a good VGA cooling block for the 8800 GTS that would let you use compression fittings and I'm unsure of the MCW60's barb size....though I would think it wouldn't be that loud....


Phew, damn that took a long time LOL.
 
Use decent coolant as well, distilled water is a solid choice that won't foam up on you if you use an anti-corrosion additive.
 
The easiet way I know to get WC'ing advice other than browsing and asking questions on the [H]orde forum or the xtremesystems.org forum is to talk to the people at Petras Tech Shop. They're an online PC water cooling shop that IMO has some very friendly and knowledgeable individuals that are more than willing to help you. While they might not always have the most popular hardware in stock they can sure as hell tell you how to do your WC'ing system right and if nesseccary, on kind of a budget. (most WC'ers know WC'ing ain't cheap if done right, Petras has some "dynamite" kits as far as I'm concerned). :)

I've never had Thermaltake hardware, but I have built several DIY WC'ing loops with Swiftech parts, Koolance parts and even some modded Nautilus 500 parts. The "big boys" seem to stay away from Themaltake all told and Koolance because of mixing metals. (aluminum and copper, I do like their "quick disconnects", it seems they're less retrictive than most others I've tried, even the super duper medical and food, ultra hard to find ones ) ;)

Oh yeah, if you ever buy a Yate Loon cooling fan get it from Petras. They have the genuine Yate Loon fan and they sell them in lots of 4x. (very valuable for us WC'ers)

DCing for the CURE
 
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