I realize that this is probably stupid, but I just want to know for certain before I get bung-hole deep into my first build and see that I missed a big step. I have a case from and old Gateway that I bought back in 2001, and I'm in the process of gutting it and doing everything new again. I'm wanting to know if anyone knows if I would have any problems in attaching the new equipment that I buy into this case. It is about mid-size, it that helps any.
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first build concerns
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I don't have a webcam (or any other cam) handy to get pics of it I was just wondering if there would be any changes from then to now. The mobo area had about 9 small screws around the outside edge, 4 around the processor, and one large one near the center.
All that I can find besides serial numbers is that it is a Performance 1400CS. That sounds about like what I remember buying. I got it back in 2001 for school stuff, and I didn't know very much about computers back then. I don't know much now, but at least now I have an idea of what I need to have for what I'm going to do. I just wanted to make sure that a regular mobo and PSU would fit in.
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Standard ATX hasn't changed and ATX power supplies have never changed.
The only issues you may face would be:
1) Was the motherboard some kind of strange proprietary board? I've a stack of old HP/Compaq cases in my basement that I can't use for anything because the boards were strange proprietary design.
2) Are you getting a large board? The holes may not line up.
3) Are you getting a large board? Depending on the layout of the case I've had problems installing optical drives in some cases because the drive back hits capacitors/etc on the new motherboard. Depending on all the parts you might also have problems routing the cables. There may not be much room in there. 18" x 18" exterior is really not very large at all when you consider the depth of a CD drive is about 7" and larger ATX boards are 10".
Depending on just how much of it you're replacing you might be better off just running out to Microcenter/CompUSA/whatever and buying a cheap $30 case for your build. I don't remember the last time I built new-ish in a case less than about 20" deep.
The only issues you may face would be:
1) Was the motherboard some kind of strange proprietary board? I've a stack of old HP/Compaq cases in my basement that I can't use for anything because the boards were strange proprietary design.
2) Are you getting a large board? The holes may not line up.
3) Are you getting a large board? Depending on the layout of the case I've had problems installing optical drives in some cases because the drive back hits capacitors/etc on the new motherboard. Depending on all the parts you might also have problems routing the cables. There may not be much room in there. 18" x 18" exterior is really not very large at all when you consider the depth of a CD drive is about 7" and larger ATX boards are 10".
Depending on just how much of it you're replacing you might be better off just running out to Microcenter/CompUSA/whatever and buying a cheap $30 case for your build. I don't remember the last time I built new-ish in a case less than about 20" deep.
Well, the current CD drive leaves about 1 or 2 inches between it and the PSU. But I don't really have an issue in dropping a few more for a case, it is just that changes the budget around somewhat.
Plus, the PSU just sorta slides into a couple of holes and latches into place. I've read on some of the newer ones that they screw in and I don't have the stuff for that.
Plus, the PSU just sorta slides into a couple of holes and latches into place. I've read on some of the newer ones that they screw in and I don't have the stuff for that.
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Wow... the PSU installs with something like a drive rail? I can't think of any time I've actually seen that.
In that case, you're going to need a new case. Unless there are rails on the current PSU that you can pull off and somehow retro to a new PSU you'll be stuck. ATX power supplies do connect using 4 screws on the back panel of the unit.
Still, I wouldn't change the plan. You're really only talking about $30. It sounds more like you're building a machine to use, rather than one to look at. eBay parts that you're not going to re-use from the old machine. Call them "*RARE* Gateway collectables" and someone will probably buy it.
I am the proud owner of a DIP-chip RAM board I bought from eBay a couple years ago... it was just cool and retro. You'll be amazed what people will actually buy there.
In that case, you're going to need a new case. Unless there are rails on the current PSU that you can pull off and somehow retro to a new PSU you'll be stuck. ATX power supplies do connect using 4 screws on the back panel of the unit.
Still, I wouldn't change the plan. You're really only talking about $30. It sounds more like you're building a machine to use, rather than one to look at. eBay parts that you're not going to re-use from the old machine. Call them "*RARE* Gateway collectables" and someone will probably buy it.
I am the proud owner of a DIP-chip RAM board I bought from eBay a couple years ago... it was just cool and retro. You'll be amazed what people will actually buy there.
Yeah, I'll probably box up the whole thing and sell it as a mystery box of computer parts with an older P4. It actually had a P4 in it as old as what it is, but of course they don't make mobos or anything for it anymore.
Maybe I'll get a few bucks out of it all.
Maybe I'll get a few bucks out of it all.