FEAR @ 1680x1050

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Darknyt

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Quick question if my fps on FEAR benchmark sounds right for a 7900 GT SLI setup.

1680x1050, MAX details everything
4x AA/16X AF using in-game settings.

I get about 73 fps average.

Turning soft shadows on doesn't seem to drop my fps by more than a couple fps. Wonder why?
 
Ranari said:
Because enabling soft shadows disables 4x FSAA maybe?
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Does it? I wouldn't have thought so.

I leave soft shadows off. I haven't tried FEAR at 1680x1050 yet since I got my Crossfire setup.
 
I don't know if you're concerned with benchmarks or playability. Obviously running 73 fps is decent especially at that resolution. Now if it dips below 40 fps, then you may have problems...especially with an x2 4600..
 
It's a known bug in FEAR that if you enable softshadows, it disables FSAA. This explains the minimal performance hit while enabling it if you already have 4x FSAA enabled, because they're both relatively equal in the taxing department.

Nevertheless, the difference between 4x FSAA and 0x FSAA is highly noticeable. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this while playing. :)
 
Ranari said:
It's a known bug in FEAR that if you enable softshadows, it disables FSAA. This explains the minimal performance hit while enabling it if you already have 4x FSAA enabled, because they're both relatively equal in the taxing department.

Nevertheless, the difference between 4x FSAA and 0x FSAA is highly noticeable. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this while playing. :)
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I've never enabled soft shadows in FEAR since the game came out. So I haven't run into that problem.
 
Ranari said:
It's a known bug in FEAR that if you enable softshadows, it disables FSAA. This explains the minimal performance hit while enabling it if you already have 4x FSAA enabled, because they're both relatively equal in the taxing department.

Nevertheless, the difference between 4x FSAA and 0x FSAA is highly noticeable. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this while playing. :)
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It's not a known bug it's the fact that Nvidia can't handle FSaa and HDR at the same time atleast with that certain method although Half Life 2 found a work around.
 
Soft shadows are not the same as HDR. The Lithtech engine used in FEAR is entirely based on SM2 and does not need SM3 support for anything.
 
psychoace said:
It's not a known bug it's the fact that Nvidia can't handle FSaa and HDR at the same time atleast with that certain method although Half Life 2 found a work around.
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What they did with Half Life 2 is not a work around, it is a different type of HDR that ATi cards at the time supported. There are more ways to render HDR than what Farcry used on Geforce 6 series hardware and SM3.0. The method that was used in Half Life 2 is compatible with AA.
 
i never really liked soft shadows, they look like crap to me. i would rather have the crisp sharp shadows.
 
Jarrett said:
Should be 85-90 fps
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Please give some info here to help me understand if I should be expecting this with my specs. I'm running an X2 4600+ at stock 2.4 with 2gb of DDR2 800 at 5-5-5-12.

Ranari said:
It's a known bug in FEAR that if you enable softshadows, it disables FSAA. This explains the minimal performance hit while enabling it if you already have 4x FSAA enabled, because they're both relatively equal in the taxing department.

Nevertheless, the difference between 4x FSAA and 0x FSAA is highly noticeable. I'm surprised you didn't pick up on this while playing.
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Now I remember hearing something about this before. Makes sense. And I didn't notice because I'm not playing with soft shadows on. Only benchmarking it and I wasn't really paying attention to the flyby on the soft shadows run, just checking in at the end for the numbers.

I do play with the 4xAA/16XAF though and it is quite nice.

Ub3rn00b said:
I don't know if you're concerned with benchmarks or playability. Obviously running 73 fps is decent especially at that resolution. Now if it dips below 40 fps, then you may have problems...especially with an x2 4600..
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Can you clarify what you mean by "esp with an X2 4600. . "?

I was only getting below 40 fps when I was having driver issues (with the 91.31's, 91.47's, 84.21's etc. etc.) and I didn't think it was really using both cards. Now that I've got that issue resolved (i only hope) I haven't seen a FEAR benchmark where it falls below 70 fps.

Now that I've finally found a set of drivers (92.91 Tweakers - thanks all for recommendations), I appear to be doing okay now.

Thanks all for the replies.
 
I played FEAR at 1280x960 w/ 2x FSAA and 8x AF and got 35ish fps in the timedemo (I think). It wasn't pretty, but it was playable. Was the first game that really made me realize that my system is getting to be a bit on the old side.
 
Ranari said:
I played FEAR at 1280x960 w/ 2x FSAA and 8x AF and got 35ish fps in the timedemo (I think). It wasn't pretty, but it was playable. Was the first game that really made me realize that my system is getting to be a bit on the old side.
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Same for me when I had your vid card. I actually bought the FEAR dvd edition when it came out and just didn't get more than a few levels into cuz I just knew I'd love it more when I had upgraded.

Serious Sam 2 was the same way for me when I tried to turn on HDR and saw how badly my system crawled.

Hell, I haven't even finished Doom 3 or even started ROE partially knowing I'd have a much better system to enjoy it on. That and I am a scaredy-cat and can only take so much in one session.
 
Ranari said:
I played FEAR at 1280x960 w/ 2x FSAA and 8x AF and got 35ish fps in the timedemo (I think). It wasn't pretty, but it was playable. Was the first game that really made me realize that my system is getting to be a bit on the old side.
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I hate that feeling.

I first had that when Farcry came out. I had a Pentium 4 3.0E and a 9600Pro@XT speeds. At the time I only had 1GB of ram and my system did everything else at the time just fine.

Then that game came out and my rig was suddenly inadequate.
 
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