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EVGA Bucks Equivalent

Something useful like a fire extinguisher or clean pizza boxes with [H] logo ...
 
Qinsp said:
Something useful like a fire extinguisher or clean pizza boxes with [H] logo ...
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I've been looking into later other schwag if the patches thing doesn't become a huge clusterfck. For example on Zazzle...Arch Linux sells branded everything from shirts to computer case badges to pillows to pens to shoulder bags:

http://www.zazzle.com/archlinux

I'm not sure offhand how Zazzle works WRT distribution and making stuff though. If anyone knows drop by [H] chat.
 
I was thinking maybe we should award points based on the sliding "milestones".

0-1m points: 1 point/100k points
1-10m points: 1 point/1m points
10m-100m: 1 point/10m points
100m+: 1 point / 25 or 50m points

This would allow people to earn the basic stickers/patches etc, and yet work up to a goal that could be 10 points for a t-shirt, 20-30 for a polo? Genmay access could be 5 or 10 points?

By that math (30 for a polo): You would earn enough for a Polo when you got to 100m points, but (assuming 25m after) it would take another 750m points (850 total) to earn a 2nd polo, so yeah, it does penalize the bigger folders, but I think it still gives goals for the smaller guys.

Maybe even put in a 10k level just for stickers/patches, and then the big jump to 100k for really starting to build up points.

Doing that would also make it simple to (if so choose) backdate points and go forward from there, instead of having to have a start date and tracking the future. Maybe also require a 3 or 6 month active period to claim items, so if someone comes back to the [H]orde, they don't lose their points from before, just have to get back into the life to claim the rewards.

Just some random thoughts to make for easy implementation and tracking; as otherwise, I see that being the bulk of work and in theory, cost in man-hours to keep things straight, if someone had to track everything going forward, it could be a real pain if we did it on ppm or ppd, or anything along those lines, even if we did it on, did you fold this month? someone would have to monthly record that information, then probably post it somewhere for people to verify they got their credit. With this, you could just say, Syran has spent 1 point on a sticker, 1 point on a patch, 10 points on a t shirt, that's 12 points. He currently has 185m points, that's 33 on the scale (hah! right number too) - spent (12) therefore 21 points available to spend. It could be looked up, checked, and such very quickly and cleanly.
 
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I can tell you GOOD logo wear is going to cost you. At work I don't buy the "knock off" brands. Nike, Adidas, Carharrt, the north face, Columbia, etc, $30-$70 a garment.

There is a silk screener local we do our coffee cups with...
 
sc0tty8 said:
I can tell you GOOD logo wear is going to cost you. At work I don't buy the "knock off" brands. Nike, Adidas, Carharrt, the north face, Columbia, etc, $30-$70 a garment.

There is a silk screener local we do our coffee cups with...
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We don't need your "elite" t shirts dammit :D. Give me a damn fruit of the loom black t with some [H] stuff plastered on it and I'm good.
 
Syran said:
I was thinking maybe we should award points based on the sliding "milestones".

0-1m points: 1 point/100k points
1-10m points: 1 point/1m points
10m-100m: 1 point/10m points
100m+: 1 point / 25 or 50m points

This would allow people to earn the basic stickers/patches etc, and yet work up to a goal that could be 10 points for a t-shirt, 20-30 for a polo? Genmay access could be 5 or 10 points?

By that math (30 for a polo): You would earn enough for a Polo when you got to 100m points, but (assuming 25m after) it would take another 750m points (850 total) to earn a 2nd polo, so yeah, it does penalize the bigger folders, but I think it still gives goals for the smaller guys.

Maybe even put in a 10k level just for stickers/patches, and then the big jump to 100k for really starting to build up points.

Doing that would also make it simple to (if so choose) backdate points and go forward from there, instead of having to have a start date and tracking the future. Maybe also require a 3 or 6 month active period to claim items, so if someone comes back to the [H]orde, they don't lose their points from before, just have to get back into the life to claim the rewards.

Just some random thoughts to make for easy implementation and tracking; as otherwise, I see that being the bulk of work and in theory, cost in man-hours to keep things straight, if someone had to track everything going forward, it could be a real pain if we did it on ppm or ppd, or anything along those lines, even if we did it on, did you fold this month? someone would have to monthly record that information, then probably post it somewhere for people to verify they got their credit. With this, you could just say, Syran has spent 1 point on a sticker, 1 point on a patch, 10 points on a t shirt, that's 12 points. He currently has 185m points, that's 33 on the scale (hah! right number too) - spent (12) therefore 21 points available to spend. It could be looked up, checked, and such very quickly and cleanly.
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We've been talking aspects of this all morning in [H]orde chat on irc.dp.cx #HardOCP.

Part of our problem is practical. A few practical problems:

1) We presently have 550 active folders according to EOC. And part of what this idea is for, is bringing in new blood...so hopefully we see that active number go up substantially...in other words another hundred or more at a minimum...potentially a lot more casual folders.

2) Given #1, expect say at a minimum needing 500 low-level primes immediately needed or very soon needed. We didn't look very hard, but one source priced patches at $0.75 per piece per 1000pc order for 3" patches (that size format and maker is not set, we were just pricing thing for perspective). In addition there's the distribution cost to us to get bulk order parsed out to qualifying individuals....cost of envelopes and a postage stamp per patch adds another say $0.50 cost for each patch

3) Given #2 we're talking some serious man-hours to get this going if we DIY it ourselves simply in shipping/addressing envelopes...NVM if we track points and blah blah blah....every data point (gifts already claimed, etc) that the Team needs to track for qualifying for gifts equals 550+(new blood folders) persons to track/input that datapoint on....which means a serious huge spreadsheet to start with even doing raw points as eligibility.


Not shooting anything down here, just laying out some realities.
 
Skripka said:
We've been talking aspects of this all morning in [H]orde chat on irc.dp.cx #HardOCP.

Part of our problem is practical. A few practical problems:

1) We presently have 550 active folders according to EOC. And part of what this idea is for, is bringing in new blood...so hopefully we see that active number go up substantially...in other words another hundred or more at a minimum...potentially a lot more casual folders.

2) Given #1, expect say at a minimum needing 500 low-level primes immediately needed or very soon needed. We didn't look very hard, but one source priced patches at $0.75 per piece per 1000pc order for 3" patches (that size format and maker is not set, we were just pricing thing for perspective). In addition there's the distribution cost to us to get bulk order parsed out to qualifying individuals....cost of envelopes and a postage stamp per patch adds another say $0.50 cost for each patch

3) Given #2 we're talking some serious man-hours to get this going if we DIY it ourselves simply in shipping/addressing envelopes...NVM if we track points and blah blah blah....every data point (gifts already claimed, etc) that the Team needs to track for qualifying for gifts equals 550+(new blood folders) persons to track/input that datapoint on....which means a serious huge spreadsheet to start with even doing raw points as eligibility.


Not shooting anything down here, just laying out some realities.
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This was kind of my first point. It's easier for this to happen on evga because they're being given bucks to a company who business is selling this swag. Whether folders buy it or not, it's still there for the masses. [H] is a completely different ball game, so it would definitely take an enormous amount of time to get this done.
 
Skripka said:
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3) Given #2 we're talking some serious man-hours to get this going if we DIY it ourselves simply in shipping/addressing envelopes...NVM if we track points and blah blah blah....every data point (gifts already claimed, etc) that the Team needs to track for qualifying for gifts equals 550+(new blood folders) persons to track/input that datapoint on....which means a serious huge spreadsheet to start with even doing raw points as eligibility.


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If they are patches, just require a self-address stamped envelope, and printout of their Folding info.

Then the shipping is just reading a letter, stick a patch in envelope, and put it out for mail.
 
m33pm33p said:
This was kind of my first point. It's easier for this to happen on evga because they're being given bucks to a company who business is selling this swag. Whether folders buy it or not, it's still there for the masses. [H] is a completely different ball game, so it would definitely take an enormous amount of time to get this done.
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Much of the typing grunt work could be offloaded..a la a Google Forms thingy that the folder wanting a freebie enters their data on...but the S&H would still take a while...at a minimum at the start of this, as most of the active folders in the top200 or so are putting out enough points to get a prize after a week or less....maybe even a day.
 
Qinsp said:
If they are patches, just require a self-address stamped envelope, and printout of their Folding info.

Then the shipping is just reading a letter, stick a patch in envelope, and put it out for mail.
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Sure it doesn't sound like much...until you have 500 patches to mail out in the first week.
 
Skripka said:
We've been talking aspects of this all morning in [H]orde chat on irc.dp.cx #HardOCP.
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can anyone help me get on? i try and connect and it tells me permission denied :(
 
Try using mibbit.com

server; irc.dp.cx

Channel: #hardocp

And a username, nothing else


Otherwise if using a client, make sure the port is 6667.
 
Skripka said:
Sure it doesn't sound like much...until you have 500 patches to mail out in the first week.
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I know. We send 800 calendars out a year for work, but for "play" we used to send out stickers, banners, and shirts on a board with thousands of racers.

Figure <50% in real life. That's how rebates work also. Only a percentage will bother.

When I send out personalized questionnaires via mail or email, a 3% response is normal.

I have no idea what the % would be for this kind of activity. With 10,000 racers offered free stickers, banners, or very cheap shirts (under our cost) we gave out <1000 in 6 years.
 
Qinsp said:
I know. We send 800 calendars out a year for work, but for "play" we used to send out stickers, banners, and shirts on a board with thousands of racers.

Figure <50% in real life. That's how rebates work also. Only a percentage will bother.

When I send out personalized questionnaires via mail or email, a 3% response is normal.

I have no idea what the % would be for this kind of activity. With 10,000 racers offered free stickers, banners, or very cheap shirts (under our cost) we gave out <1000 in 6 years.
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Something simple like a patch I dunno. I do know people have been bugging Kyle/Steve for H swag for a while now a la shirts etc. If/when those come along there might be substantial demand.

Another idea, is to make the schwag free for cost of S/H for those that meed the folding criteria and if we sold them straight up for say $5 we might be able to make the operation self sufficient once it gets going....then again we might not carrot&stick new blood into the team, and folks might just buy outright rather than fold....at which point we accomplish nada in terms of recruitment.
 
I figured we would have 100 from the active pool so that leaves 400 (if we go the 500 order) for new memebers. I figure that would be plenty. If not, what a wonderful problem to have.
 
Patriot said:
For the first week of every month...

I remember the last time this came up and you said it was preposterous that anyone folded just because of the bucks... then the next 4 comments admitted to folding for the bucks... just sayin :p

Currently the Horde feeds the Horde...
Evga Feeds the Evga folding team... Denial doesn't change that fact.
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BWahahahahaha...

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I dig the latest idea of the Patches... I was going to suggest a small towel for those who reach 50Mil+... To help cleanup the Competition with :cool: (I meant that genuinely now, not being a smartass)
 
Afterburner said:
BWahahahahaha...

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:p:p:p


I dig the latest idea of the Patches... I was going to suggest a small towel for those who reach 50Mil+... To help cleanup the Competition with :cool: (I meant that genuinely now, not being a smartass)
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Limited edition signed Kendrak pompoms for 500million?
 
m33pm33p said:
We don't need your "elite" t shirts dammit :D. Give me a damn fruit of the loom black t with some [H] stuff plastered on it and I'm good.
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Oh neat! Look at that old lady's kick dog snarling at me :)
 
It's been a few years since we had case badges.

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I have two [H] F@H t-shirts from years ago. I still wear them.
 
I really like the case badges :cool: I also like the t-shirt idea: black with the red [H]orde.
 
I think that it would help me build a server that I could never piece together my self.
 
Just a thought off the top of my head and NOT well thought out...

How about starting some kind of store for [H] items.
Pricing would be for both regular dollars.. or [H] folding points + dollars for an item.
Points for NEW members/new folders would be much lower...

The idea is to get new folders, also promote the site (swag for sale), and entice newbees into our folding community...

Ok... thats just an idea that flashed across this old mans head...
 
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