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Ebay cpu waterblocks?

Tengis

Tengis

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Tuppu said:
So why wouldn't these work just fine?
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Oh they'll work. They're just overpriced for what they are and won't even come close to the performance of modern blocks from major companies like XSPC and Swiftech.

Just look at the design of those blocks and then compare them to modern blocks. Modern blocks have the pins or fins designed as thin as possible to facilitate faster heat transfer due to greater surface area. These blocks have pins/fins that are way too thick.
 
Can't say they are overpriced. For $50 more, you can reduce the CPU temp with what..? Maybe 1-3 degrees, who knows? :rolleyes:
 
The XSPC Raystorm (costs about $50) is 2 C better than the XSPC Rasa. The Rasa is significantly better designed than these blocks. For $25 more, you'll get a block that does probably at least 5 C better, and more likely in the neighborhood of 10-15 C.
 
Also consider reliability.... do you want to save $20-25 and potentially have a leak because of low quality control? Is that chinese company going to even remotely consider your problem? Lol not at all.
 
Tsumi said:
...and more likely in the neighborhood of 10-15 C.
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No way, the difference would be that big. And if your your temp is 60 or 70C degrees, so what?

Of course, if you have the money, why wouldn't you buy the best? Everyone doesn't have much money, but still they may be interested to try watercooling. Propably these China blocks are just fine for a low budget watercooling build. And I doupt there gona be some leaks, usually the leaks are a user errors. How hard can it be to machine a O-ring groove, fit a rubber ring in it and tighten the screws..?

And if you look at my sig you can see I use one of the best CPU blocks on the market.
 
Yes, it can be that big. The XSPC Rasa uses micro pins, probably at least 200-300 micro-pins. The surface area is enormous. On the other hand, the top block has 10 wide channels, the middle have very thick pins, at least 10 times the size of the Rasa pins, and the bottom block probably has only 15 channels.

And I don't care what you use. And isn't the point of watercooling to get lower temps? If you're aiming for high temps, you might as well go air or CLCs.

As I said, the XSPC Raystorm is 2 C better than the Rasa. The difference in design between the Rasa and these blocks are enormous, while the difference between the Rasa and Raystorm are much smaller. So yes, there can be up to a 10-15 C difference. There is absolutely no point in trying to save $25 for a much inferior product when a basic watercooling setup is going to run at least $150 anyways.
 
For $25 I wouldnt touch these, for $10 I wouldnt touch these. Simple, I dont trust the manuf.

No, not all leaks are user error, parts fail, and shitty parts fail even more than well made ones. "How difficult is it to machine a channel" ... if it was easy these guys would not be making / selling archaic designed cooling block, their o-rings could (and I would hazard a guess, are) shit.

Also, 10-15c is a HUGE difference in terms of cooling capacity, the goal with WC is the lowest temperature (but you obviously know this due to your 1337 setup in your sig), if you cannot afford an extra $25, save up and do it right, watercooling is not cheap, it is a niche market, and if $25 is going to break you, get an all in one unit, and be done with it.
 
Until someone has tested and compared these cheap blocks your guessings have no value. Maybe if these blocks was made in the USA they would be even great..?
 
These last couple I found look decent. The fins inside look a lot like some of the other waterblocks and all in one units.

I may be willing to test them out just to see if they are any good. Im building a new rig here soon and Ive already got some other watercooling components and will be ordering more.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Water-Cooli...70094?pt=US_Water_Cooling&hash=item27d1f2ba4e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CPU-Water-C...86835?pt=US_Water_Cooling&hash=item232e48ee13

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-PCS-CPU-W...51971?pt=US_Water_Cooling&hash=item41750cdec3
 
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Tuppu said:
Until someone has tested and compared these cheap blocks your guessings have no value. Maybe if these blocks was made in the USA they would be even great..?
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Hell no. It doesn't matter where it's made, the design is archaic for heat transfer. And my guessing is ground in testing of past blocks, so it's easy to see where these blocks would stand.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1524206

5 C difference between the Alphacool Niagara and the XSPC Rasa (keeping same block for frame of reference). There's a 2 C difference between the XSPC Raystorm and the Rasa, making a 7 C difference between the Niagara and the Raystorm. Given that those blocks are at best equal to the Niagara, a 10+ C difference is reasonable to believe on the poorer designed of those blocks. Not to mention, is the lapping and the bowing on the bottom equivalent to that of the Niagara? What about the nozzle system? As has been tested on various blocks, changing the nozzle can change temps by up to 3 C.

Tengis said:
These last couple I found look decent. The fins inside look a lot like some of the other waterblocks and all in one units.

I may be willing to test them out just to see if they are any good. Im building a new rig here soon and Ive already got some other watercooling components and will be ordering more.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Water-Cooli...70094?pt=US_Water_Cooling&hash=item27d1f2ba4e

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CPU-Water-C...86835?pt=US_Water_Cooling&hash=item232e48ee13

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-PCS-CPU-W...51971?pt=US_Water_Cooling&hash=item41750cdec3
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First one: Is that even copper they're using as the material? At $30 you can get a used XSPC Rasa or Swiftech Apogee XT, which are proven performers.

Second one: Looks halfway decent. Still rather thick channels.

Third one: Has even thicker channels than the second one. The finish on the base seems fairly crappy though.
 
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Im down to get a Rasa if someone has one for a good price.
 
Tsumi said:
Hell no. It doesn't matter where it's made, the design is archaic for heat transfer. And my guessing is ground in testing of past blocks, so it's easy to see where these blocks would stand.

http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1524206

5 C difference between the Alphacool Niagara and the XSPC Rasa (keeping same block for frame of reference). There's a 2 C difference between the XSPC Raystorm and the Rasa, making a 7 C difference between the Niagara and the Raystorm. Given that those blocks are at best equal to the Niagara, a 10+ C difference is reasonable to believe on the poorer designed of those blocks. Not to mention, is the lapping and the bowing on the bottom equivalent to that of the Niagara? What about the nozzle system? As has been tested on various blocks, changing the nozzle can change temps by up to 3 C.



First one: Is that even copper they're using as the material? At $30 you can get a used XSPC Rasa or Swiftech Apogee XT, which are proven performers.

Second one: Looks halfway decent. Still rather thick channels.

Third one: Has even thicker channels than the second one. The finish on the base seems fairly crappy though.
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I have read that review. So where would they stand? There is no way to tell by the look. According to that, the XSPC Delta V3 should be good by the look of it, the whole copper area full of pinns, but it seems to perform quite crappy(and the machining looks awful but who cares). The problem is propably that the base is too thin so the heat doesn't spread to the outer pinns, and also the lack of a nossle system that spreads the water...

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On the other hand AnFi-Tec Soleil 01 performs better and is a lot more simple structure:

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I don't trying to say these ebay blocks are the best or that other ones are bad, I'm just saying that for a normal overclock they will propably perform just nice. I also just guessing here, maybe they sucks and the difference is 25 degrees but I doubt that.

Of course if you find a well proven good brand block used for the same price, take it. No question.
 
Dude you're all alone on the island liking these things. Ya like em so much then fucking buy them already.

The only person you're convincing here is yourself.
 
Are you a sales rep for these guys?

And you're grasping at straws here, the Anfi Soleil only performs 1 C better than the Delta V3, and 4 C worse than the Rasa (6 C worse than the Raystorm). It does absolutely nothing to counteract my claim that they are going to perform at least 5 C worse than a Raystorm (a block which costs only $50) and probably in the neighborhood of 10-15 C.
 
Tsumi said:
Are you a sales rep for these guys?

And you're grasping at straws here, the Anfi Soleil only performs 1 C better than the Delta V3, and 4 C worse than the Rasa (6 C worse than the Raystorm). It does absolutely nothing to counteract my claim that they are going to perform at least 5 C worse than a Raystorm (a block which costs only $50) and probably in the neighborhood of 10-15 C.
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Wow, just 1 C difference. with all those pinns... amazing! :rolleyes:
 
It's already been mentioned, but the quality of those eBay blocks is an unknown here. I wouldn't trust those inexpensive blocks in my system.

I got my XSPC Raystorm for $54.34 shipped USPS Priority mail on jab-tech.com using their 5% off coupon code "facebook".

For me, that extra $30 is well worth the piece of mind that you're getting a quality block.
 
Considering what I spent on my loop I would go with a proven block that tons of other people on the forums have used. If you feel so strongly about these blocks buy one, post a review, and prove everyone wrong.

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He was meaning that he finds it humorous (and so do I) , that a poster with 3 very known brands, is arguing that you should go with the ebay blocks over proven designs.


I would be interested to see what the blocks can do performance wise, not holding my breath at all though.
 
W.Feather said:
He was meaning that he finds it humorous (and so do I) , that a poster with 3 very known brands, is arguing that you should go with the ebay blocks over proven designs..
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You'r wrong! I don't mean you should take these over well known and proven brand blocks. If you have afford, take the best you can get. The point is that these ebay blocks propably arn't that shitty you say. It's funny how everone say they are shit without even testing them, like your word is the absolute truth lol. If someone wan't to try a low budget chinese watercooling system, it's nothing wrong with that... and won't propably not get too bad results. Maybe I will order one of these blocks, test it out and prove you all retards... or me. :D
 
Tuppu, I was responding in concern to JapaneseGorilla , not you.

However, getting the blocks would be interesting, however I would personally spend the extra $25 for a known quantity, rather than an unknown based on a dated design. Will they work, probably, will the work well, probably not.

In my eye, if the extra $25 is going to break the bank, then you probably shouldnt be watercooling and you are better off with an All In One setup, over a custom setup.
 
W.Feather said:
TIn my eye, if the extra $25 is going to break the bank, then you probably shouldnt be watercooling and you are better off with an All In One setup, over a custom setup.
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I agree, most of the other parts of a custom loop aren't exactly cheap.
 
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Tuppu said:
So we could save more money(and get more fun in this thread) we must use other chinese bits... :cool:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-12V-6W-S...569?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item35c72824f1

http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC12V-Water...34594?pt=US_Water_Cooling&hash=item25819ceb02

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Aluminum-He...74391787?pt=AU_Components&hash=item1c2aa2b9eb

http://www.ebay.com/itm/NEW-120mm-L...498?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item589d81d862
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"Save more money"? With a more-than-likely wimply pump without enough head/flow for one of those cheapo blocks, an acrylic res that will probably leak, and an *aluminum* radiator?

What could go wrong?
 
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I wouldn't throw that in my main rig over a $400 graphics card but I could see throwing that in a rig that wouldn't be too expensive to replace just for fun.
 
There's no way I would use those blocks in my rig or for anyone else. Not even in a cheap system. Sure, the low price may appeal to many but if there is a problem RMA is going to be a pain and result in a lengthy wait for a replacement.
 
The mounts on a few of these look interesting for fitting compatibility. Some of them may possibly fit a video card. Would like to see a review.
 
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