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does modular PSU has any cons?

lukx

lukx

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Right now I have Seasonic 600W and I'm very happy with it but... I was thinking about modular M12. It's nice to clean space inside case with disconnecting unwanted cables from PSU but maybe modluar PSUs has some cons and it's better to get normal ones?
 
The only real cons are a lack of really good modular PSU's as most are pretty much middle of the road (not all, the Silverstones and Seasonics are pretty good) and the fact that repeated plugging and unplugging of the cables can lead to the pins loosening up over time. If you're not going to be swapping the cables around every other day then it's really a non-issue but I'd certainly like to see some more kickass modulars hit the market.
 
Yes, the only con is that modular PSU add a extra point of failure but if you build the computer and don't mess with it for a long time, it's a moot point.
 
If you build the computer and don't mess with it, what's the point of a modular supply? What am I missing?
 
mikeblas said:
If you build the computer and don't mess with it, what's the point of a modular supply? What am I missing?
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The only point I can see in this case is the ability to unplug unused cables. This make for a reduced mess.
 
I have an Ultra X2, it was alot easier to hide the wires, no mess, increases airflow, i dropped 2 degrees case temp when i got it all done. It looks alot better too.
 
Poking around PC P&C's website today, I saw this:

3. DON'T LOSE POWER WITH MODULAR PLUGS
Due to their look, convenience, and cost savings for manufacturers, modular plugs have become a popular power supply feature. Unfortunately, there has been little or no discussion of the impact of this feature on overall performance and reliability. The fact is, modular plugs limit power by adding to electrical resistance. The voltage drop can be as much as would occur in 2 feet of standard wire. Worse yet, modular plugs utilize delicate pins that can easily loosen, corrode, and burn, creating the potential for a major system failure. That's why pros specify uninterrupted wire!
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Can anyone comment on this? Is it accurate? If so, is it a big deal or nothing to worry much about?
 
marketing crap.

They don't affect it in any measurable way. Resistance equal to two feet of wire? That's not a lot of resistence. Properly plugged in, you won't have any problems.
 
starbuck said:
Poking around PC P&C's website today, I saw this:



Can anyone comment on this? Is it accurate? If so, is it a big deal or nothing to worry much about?
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It is interesting but what is most telling is you can get a PC Power and Cooling PSU modded from performace PC's and it still carries PC Power and Cooling's warranty. Guess they aren't that worried about it ;)
 
starbuck said:
Poking around PC P&C's website today, I saw this:



Can anyone comment on this? Is it accurate? If so, is it a big deal or nothing to worry much about?
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Man I dont believe that crap PC P&C is trying to feed. If you think about it everything you plug in your pc is already modular. I'm talking about 4 pin molexes daisy chain, 6pin pci-e connectors, and 24 pin power plug. So now by having it on both ends, suddenly it will burn and corrode? Yea okay whatever, if PC P&C dont want to sell modular it's their loss imo. Probably more than half the reason why I havent bought anything from them anyways. For me the advantage of modular far outweighs the cons. With everything in my system right now, I'm using 4 cables total. If there isnt an advantage between modular and non-modular there, I dont know what is.
 
mikeblas said:
If you build the computer and don't mess with it, what's the point of a modular supply? What am I missing?
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More cleaner, with modular power supply you wont have a whole bunch of unused cables hanging around. Also, you can still mess with modular psu's just not messing with them every second.
 
I have the M12-600, and trust me, if they can make em this good
from now on, I won't go back and you won't either...

Its just that most modular supplies have a bad rap due to the fact
that they are CRAP. M12 series' downside is that its louder
then its non-modular brothers on high load :p

But hey, that is just my opinion... *cough and Johnny Guru's *cough :D

Johnny Guru's review on M12 series (700)
Silent PC's review on the M12 series
 
I think they have said it all. Just stay with the Seasonic line and you will have no worries. You may want to look at the Corsair 620W model also. It is a sweet machine.
 
Rembrandt said:
I think they have said it all. Just stay with the Seasonic line and you will have no worries. You may want to look at the Corsair 620W model also. It is a sweet machine.
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Yar... since they are manufactured by Seasonic then tagged by Corsair :D
 
mikeblas said:
If you build the computer and don't mess with it, what's the point of a modular supply? What am I missing?
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- No wires to hide in a windowed case.

- No extra wires impeding airflow.

- Easier customization.
 
starbuck said:
Poking around PC P&C's website today, I saw this:



Can anyone comment on this? Is it accurate? If so, is it a big deal or nothing to worry much about?
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Completely false, First off conections don't add resistance, Second 2 feet of electrical resistance is almost nothing, lastly how many people have problems with molex connectors? copper wire corroding? I've never had any problems with them. This is marketing to the fullest.
 
Connectors absolutely do add resistance. There's really no doubt about it.
 
mikeblas said:
Connectors absolutely do add resistance. There's really no doubt about it.
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QFT. They do add resistance. Just as they also change the capacitance. However, not nearly as much as the length of wire you are using.

Anyway, for the gauge, length, and power we are using its not even close to important weather or not to use modular. Its BS

I prefer modular.
 
syne_24 said:
Man I dont believe that crap PC P&C is trying to feed. If you think about it everything you plug in your pc is already modular. I'm talking about 4 pin molexes daisy chain, 6pin pci-e connectors, and 24 pin power plug. So now by having it on both ends, suddenly it will burn and corrode? Yea okay whatever, if PC P&C dont want to sell modular it's their loss imo. Probably more than half the reason why I havent bought anything from them anyways. For me the advantage of modular far outweighs the cons. With everything in my system right now, I'm using 4 cables total. If there isnt an advantage between modular and non-modular there, I dont know what is.
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your logic is flawed but suffice to say....it really is marketing as is alot of things!!

Yes--there is a loss.....how much minimal at worsst!! Enough to warrant not getting s modular PSU? Nope!! Go ahead andf get yourself a good modular PSU!!

As Madmat previously has stated-- The only real cons are a lack of really good modular PSU's as most are pretty much middle of the road (not all, the Silverstones and Seasonics are pretty good) and the fact that repeated plugging and unplugging of the cables can lead to the pins loosening up over time. If you're not going to be swapping the cables around every other day then it's really a non-issue but I'd certainly like to see some more kickass modulars hit the market.
 
Spectre said:
It is interesting but what is most telling is you can get a PC Power and Cooling PSU modded from performace PC's and it still carries PC Power and Cooling's warranty. Guess they aren't that worried about it ;)
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I still don`t understand what is most telling....hmmm
Whats actually most telling is that Performance PC has exclusive rights to make a PC Power & Colling modular! Now that is telling...

YES it is interesting but the full story is they approached the PC Power & Cooling people with a PC Power & Cooling PSU that they made into a modular unit! PC Power & Cooling liked what they saw and approved it!!

Performance PC does 100% quality work! They donot cut corners at all!!

:D
 
OCC_Yoda said:
I still don`t understand what is most telling....hmmm
Whats actually most telling is that Performance PC has exclusive rights to make a PC Power & Colling modular! Now that is telling...

YES it is interesting but the full story is they approached the PC Power & Cooling people with a PC Power & Cooling PSU that they made into a modular unit! PC Power & Cooling liked what they saw and approved it!!

Performance PC does 100% quality work! They donot cut corners at all!!

:D
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If PC Power and Cooling felt so strongly about the issue they wouldn't sanction such work ;)
 
I just bought Seasonic M12 700 :) Should get it in few days with Silverstone TJ09 :)
 
I can't see that being modular is a draw back.........in fact to me, it is a good way to go.
This 'worry' about all the plugging/un-plugging of cables doesn't to me make much sense.
How often would you unplug the cables from the PSU itself..............yes, the components on the other end, but that is what happens with a non modular unit anyway.
Surely once you have chosen and plugged in the molex/sata cables into the PSU, they stay there as there are (usually) plenty of connectors on those cables........its the ones on the ends that get the wear just like any other PSU.
Maybe there are people who are always changing their minds as to which cables should be plugged into the PSU, so in that case, any wear on the connectors is their fault.... :D
 
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