Damn Microsoft & the Windows 10 Update Crap!

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I just built a new rig (Windows 7) & I knew not to allow MS to install KB3035583 update. It worked for 3 days & then I noticed I has some more updates yesterday. There was no KB3035583 in those new updates. Then this morning I boot-up my computer & there's that damn WIN10 icon in my tray.

Did MS change the update to a different code? Damn MS! They are so sneaky. Now I have to spend time trying to rid my new system of it.
 
I thought there were several different KB numbers over the last couple months.
 
They've made it basically impossible to disable unless you disable Windows Update. Selectively disabling updates is like playing whack a mole.

Maybe try finding the actual executable and deleting it and replacing it with an executable that doesn't do anything and has permissions that make it impossible for Windows to delete or replace it.
 
I have to think you accidentally got the 3035583. I know on my last reinstall I disabled updates and selected all except that. then kept doing it. It would show up every so often, sometimes recommended, important, optional, etc.
 
Yeah MS is making updating without getting the Win 10 spamware a real pain in the ass. It popped up on my last update and I had to disable and hide it again. So instead of just installing all the recommended updates now I have to spend a lot of time reading each and every single one of them to make sure it doesn't install that spamware on my system. I don't trust MS anymore to not consider it a "security fix" in the future. I guess from their point of view it would be since they won't want to fix some kernel exploit in win 7 so the only "patch" is to update to Win 10. Don't just assume 3035583 is the only update you have to watch out for also suspicious is 3112343 which is described:
This update enables support for additional upgrade scenarios from Windows 7 to Windows 10, and provides a smoother experience when you have to retry an operating system upgrade because of certain failure conditions. This update also improves the ability of Microsoft to monitor the quality of the upgrade experience.
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Don't know for certain if it is an updated spamware app but I won't install it to find out. ;)
 
I've got mine set to manual updates and only do the security updates. Anything marked as a recommended update doesn't get installed.

I removed all the Windows 10 related updates a while ago following a guide online plus changing the registry to disable OS updates and haven't had anything show up since then.
 
Did they move it from Recommended to Important? There is a check box to say "Give me recommended updates as important" or something which would install much of the non-security stuff automatically.
 
bigdogchris said:
Did they move it from Recommended to Important? There is a check box to say "Give me recommended updates as important" or something which would install much of the non-security stuff automatically.
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They made W10 updates such that you can mark them as unimportant...but they'll immediately lose that status marker on next Win update try.
 
Install this. MTRT.

https://www.reddit.com/r/computerte...icrosoft_telemetry_removal_tool_v10/?sort=new

Created by a IT geek/tech, like us. I read through all the documentation that I could including researching things that it disables, and as far as I can tell, everything is 100% legit. So much so that I deployed it across all devices on my home network. No more BS Windows 10 nag crap.

The only downside is that updates have to be done manually, which can be a slight pain. I guess that's what update Tuesdays are for though. :D
 
Skripka said:
There's been about 2-3 dozen Windows Updates for W7 associated with W10 updates and telemetry. Thus far.
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46 by my count total for both 7 & 8.

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KB#	KB Description	KB Link	Other info																						
KB971033	Description of the update for Windows Activation Technologies	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/971033																							
KB2505438	Slow performance in applications that use the DirectWrite API on a computer that is running Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2505438	Although it claims to fix performance issues, it often breaks fonts																						
KB2670838	Platform update for Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2670838	The EVIL Update, breaks AERO on Windows 7 and makes some fonts on websites fuzzy, Windows 7 specific update only, do not install IE10 or 11 otherwise it will be bundled with them, IE9 is the max version you should install																						
KB2882822	Update adds ITraceRelogger interface support to Windows Embedded Standard 7 SP1, Windows 7 SP1 and Windows Server 2008 R2 SP1	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2882822	Very fishy update that just popped up with not enough detail about it																						
KB2902907	Microsoft Security Essentials is offered as an optional update	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2267621																							
KB2952664	Compatibility update for upgrading Windows 7	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2952664	"Get Windows 10" Assistant																						
KB2976978	Compatibility update for Windows 8.1 and Windows 8	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2976978	Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8																						
KB2977759	Compatibility update for Windows 7 RTM	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2977759	Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7																						
KB2990214	Update that enables you to upgrade from Windows 7 to a later version of Windows	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2990214	Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7																						
KB2999226	Update for Universal C Runtime in Windows	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/2999226	"The Windows 10 Universal CRT..."																						
KB3012973	Upgrade to Windows 10	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3012973	Force Trigger Download and Install of Windows 10																						
KB3015249	Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3015249																							
KB3021917	Update to Windows 7 SP1 for performance improvements	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3021917	Windows 10 Upgrade preparation + Telemetry																						
KB3022345	Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3022345																							
KB3035583	Update installs Get Windows 10 app in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7 SP1	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3035583																							
KB3042058	Microsoft security advisory: Update to default cipher suite priority order: May 12, 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3042058	Microsoft claims its a security update but it contains Winlogon Spying																						
KB3044374	Update that enables you to upgrade from Windows 8.1 to Windows 10	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3044374																							
KB3050265	Windows Update Client for Windows 7: June 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050265	Windows 10 upgrade preparation but also adds the option in GPEDIT to disable Windows 10 upgrade altogether so you may want to actually install this																						
KB3050267	Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1: June 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3050267	Windows 10 upgrade preparation but also adds the option in GPEDIT to disable Windows 10 upgrade altogether so you may want to actually install this																						
KB3064683	Windows 8.1 OOBE modifications to reserve Windows 10	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3064683	Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8																						
KB3065987	Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: July 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065987	Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7																						
KB3065988	Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: July 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3065988	Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8																						
KB3068708	Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3068708																							
KB3072318	Update for Windows 8.1 OOBE to upgrade to Windows 10	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3072318																							
KB3074677	Compatibility update for upgrading to Windows 10	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3074677																							
KB3075249	Update that adds telemetry points to consent.exe in Windows 8.1 and Windows 7	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075249																							
KB3075851	Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: August 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075851	Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 7																						
KB3075853	Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: August 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3075853	Windows 10 Upgrade for Windows 8																						
KB3078667	System malfunction because memory leak occurs in dwm.exe in Windows 7 or Windows Server 2008 R2	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3078667	Claims to fix memory leaks in dwm.exe but also is a Windows 10 upgrade preparation according to this article																						
KB3080149	Update for customer experience and diagnostic telemetry	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080149																							
KB3081437	August 18, 2015, compatibility update for upgrading to Windows 10	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081437																							
KB3081454	September 8, 2015, compatibility update for upgrading to Windows 10	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081454																							
KB3081954	Update for Work Folders improvements in Windows 7 SP1	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3081954	Telemetry Update for Windows 7																						
KB3083324	Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: September 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083324	Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7																						
KB3083325	Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: September 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083325	Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8																						
KB3083710	Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: October 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083710	Update for the Windows Update client with sketchy details for Windows 7, see this thread																						
KB3083711	Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: October 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3083711	Update for the Windows Update client with sketchy details for Windows 8, see this thread																						
KB3086255	MS15-097: Description of the security update for the graphics component in Windows: September 8, 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3086255	Flagged as an Important update. It disables SafeDisc games in Windows Vista, 7, and 8/8.1																						
KB3088195	MS15-111: Description of the security update for Windows Kernel: October 13, 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3088195	Microsoft claims it's a security update but also has a key logger on the Kernel Level																						
KB3090045	Windows Update for reserved devices in Windows 8.1 or Windows 7 SP1	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3090045	Windows 10 Upgrade Update for Windows 7/8																						
KB3093983	MS15-106: Security update for Internet Explorer: October 13, 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3093983	Microsoft claims it's a security update but it contains IE spying																						
KB3102810	Installing and searching for updates is slow and high CPU usage occurs in Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102810	Fixes an issue regarding long wait while searching for Windows Updates but also has Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7																						
KB3102812	Installing and searching for updates is slow and high CPU usage occurs in Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3102812	Fixes an issue regarding long wait while searching for Windows Updates but also has Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8																						
KB3107998	Remove Lenovo USB Blocker version 1.0.0.37 to avoid a system crash	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3107998																							
KB3112336	Windows Update Client for Windows 8.1 and Windows Server 2012 R2: December 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3112336	Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 8																						
KB3112343	Windows Update Client for Windows 7 and Windows Server 2008 R2: December 2015	https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3112343	Windows 10 Upgrade preparation for Windows 7

Since they've started reverting the "AllowOSUpgrade" registry and/or GP entries on machines to allow 10 to install, I turned off updates. MS can get bent. :mad:
 
Executioner said:
Why Microsoft Says Windows 10 Upgrades Cannot Be Stopped

http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonk...opped/?utm_campaign=yahootix&partner=yahootix

I have also turned off all updates. Make sure to install the latest GWX control panel app, as MS has changed the code so the old one does not work with the latest NOV updates.
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"but for it to work and crucially for it to work as fast as Microsoft wants, it has to be forcibly kickstarted."

This is kind of backfiring from what I am seeing. Roughly 1 in 5 upgrades have been problematic, ranging from BSoDs to printers, graphics and third party software. Mass adoption happens on the market's own accord, and realistically MS has an uphill any way you slice it because they did an excellent job with 7. The market needs to be convinced that they have a need to upgrade and upgrading to 10 not only doesn't have many benefits, it could tragically turn the computer into a zombie. Being forced into it and having upgrades that need to be reverted has automatically turned those 20% of upgraders off of 10, clean install or not (I can't convince them to let me clean install it). They will spread the word that 10 is no bueno and I see bad things resulting for 10.
 
I'm sick of Windows installing KB3035833. I have removed it and hidden it on 3 different computers. It has been reinstalled on them all again at various times.
 
braamer said:
I'm sick of Windows installing KB3035833. I have removed it and hidden it on 3 different computers. It has been reinstalled on them all again at various times.
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Did you install the GWX Control Panel? No more headaches if you do.
 
I was installing Windows 7 on a friend's shiny new laptop a few days ago. She couldn't handle 8.1.
Even though I chose not to touch updates during setup, right after installation it started making connections to 'random' IPs and pulling data. Had to stop the Updater in services.msc before it finally quit. It's a really sad day when you have to disable updates on a relatively modern and liked OS because the vendor decided to turn on it and its users.
 
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PliotronX said:
"but for it to work and crucially for it to work as fast as Microsoft wants, it has to be forcibly kickstarted."

This is kind of backfiring from what I am seeing. Roughly 1 in 5 upgrades have been problematic, ranging from BSoDs to printers, graphics and third party software. Mass adoption happens on the market's own accord, and realistically MS has an uphill any way you slice it because they did an excellent job with 7. The market needs to be convinced that they have a need to upgrade and upgrading to 10 not only doesn't have many benefits, it could tragically turn the computer into a zombie. Being forced into it and having upgrades that need to be reverted has automatically turned those 20% of upgraders off of 10, clean install or not (I can't convince them to let me clean install it). They will spread the word that 10 is no bueno and I see bad things resulting for 10.
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To each its own but...

So far I have updated over 50 devices ranging from desktops, laptops, tablets and surface pro 2/3. Most of them with windows 7 and the rest with 8/8.1

To date I've had ZERO problems other than a surface 3 pro touchscreen not working but that was solved via a firmware update.
 
Yep, that GWX Control Panel and Spybot Antibeacon has stopped Microsoft dead in its tracks. For now anyway.
 
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