Court Ruling Makes Server RAM a Document?

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Last week, a federal judge ruled that RAM in a server is a tangible document that can be stored and must be turned over in a lawsuit. Huh?!? I have an idea, if your RAM is subpoenaed, take it out of the computer and submit the "document" as evidence. :D

If allowed to stand, the groundbreaking ruling may mean that anyone defending themselves in a civil suit could be required to turn over information in their computer's RAM hardware, which could force companies and individuals to store vast amounts of data, say technology experts.
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"the judge erred by defining volatile computer memory as "electronically stored information.""

That judge has no business even talking about a computer. What an idiot. Sure I'll let you have my RAM as evidence of what I have done with my computer. ;)
 
Ugh I can't wait to see what other computer related rulings judges like him will give... Next up, taking the computer's monitor to show what the computer user has been viewing.
 
Right, so now we will dedicate half of our clock cycles to logging RAM contents. This sounds like a call for a Symantec product!
 
The chilling part is the entertainment cartels managed to convince yet another computer illiterate judge to order a new document *created* for the purpose of turning it in for discovery. Regardless of the case, that's not the point of discovery. Bad judge, bad judge.
 
Baredor said:
Right, so now we will dedicate half of our clock cycles to logging RAM contents. This sounds like a call for a Symantec product!
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Oooooohhh, burn!

Seriously, though, what the hell?! All it takes is someone leaning over to the judge and whispering "Computer RAM doesn't work that way, you moron!", and this all goes away. If you can get to be tried by a jury of your "peers" in this country, shouldn't you also be privy to getting a judge who KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK HE'S TALKING ABOUT?! It really shouldn't be that hard to rate judges on knowledge of various topics, and assign them cases based as such. Yeah yeah, more travel time, longer court lines, cases assigned to judges out of state, whatever. Do you want actual, knowledgeable justice or not? Then you'll drive the extra distance.

I knew justice was blind, but I never knew she was using the mouse as a footpedal, too. :rolleyes:
 
I wonder which tech lab will analyze RAM for evidence? Anyone...anyone,,,Beuller...Beuller.....
 
The "RAM is a tangible document" portion of the ruling will go away because it is technically impossible to implement. The judge is basically asking that servers use hard drives instead of RAM. This is so ridiculous that I can't even think of a car analogy.
 
I wonder if this is the same judge that didn't know what a website was, or whatever it was he didn't know.
 
I already know what's next so everybody better jump on the bandwagon cause your DDR2 and DDR3 memory in your GPU will be next. Better start saving that frame buffer or you'll be in trouble.
 
Shotglass01 said:
I already know what's next so everybody better jump on the bandwagon cause your DDR2 and DDR3 memory in your GPU will be next. Better start saving that frame buffer or you'll be in trouble.
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Except you can't. DRM standards are now preventing access to the framebuffer while copyrighted content is playing.
 
Mark_Warner said:
Except you can't. DRM standards are now preventing access to the framebuffer while copyrighted content is playing.
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LMFAO Wheels within wheels!!! Maybe now we can get the legal system against DRM implementers for obstructing justice!!
 
I wish the RIAA judges would ask for this....
 
The judge ordered Torrentspy to turn on logging on their web server. That is it. The mention of RAM comes up, because Torrentspy claims they don't need to provide web logs, because they are never stored. Columbia Pictures maintained that the log is stored temporarily in RAM. Torrentspy agreed that it would not be difficult, to turn on logging, but storage space wouldn't allow them to store it all. Columbia Pictures only wanted some of the data, so the Judge ruled Torrentspy must turn on logging and store the pertinent portions of the log. The log is to be provided with IP addresses obfuscated in some way so Columbia Pictures can't identify users.

Here is a car analogy... Torrentspy runs a valet service that services a few different buildings. They put the keys on a pegboard, that they write the license plate number and which building the car needs to be returned to, above the key to the car. The judge ordered Torrentspy to write the info on a sticky note and save them and remove the license plate info with an unique identifier for each car.
 
What if a torrent business ran completley on memory? So if their systems are ever "confiscated", it's all gone.... hmmm lol
 
Ockie said:
What if a torrent business ran completley on memory? So if their systems are ever "confiscated", it's all gone.... hmmm lol
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hmmm...
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