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BigDH01

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I would like to continue a discussion that started here:

http://www.amdzone.com/index.php?na...rder=asc&sid=3279de3b149728565ec7a41c45389755

before I was ultimately banned after my final post.

I do consider 4x4 to be somewhat of a desperate move by AMD. To me it screams EE or Emergency Edition. I'm not saying the technology is bad, in fact, it might perform on par with Kentsfield or even better. I just think that AMD is choosing to cannibalize their server parts (Santa Rosa) in order to at least provide a 4 core solution. I just don't think AMD has any real long-term plans for this platform seeing as AM3 is coming out next year and is meant for the desktop. I felt the same way about EE when it was released. It just seems that this pattern is following the trail led by the EE and Intel. I really don't consider Intel's 4 core solution to be particularly elegant right now (dice on one package) but I really think they got the drop on AMD doing this. Not that 4 cores is needed by desktop users now anyway, but I still think it's an interesting observation that warrants further discussion.

Also, are Intel and AMD really that different in terms of platform changes? Granted C2Ds do not work in older 775 boards (even ones with 945, 975), but is that really much different than AMD just releasing a new socket altogether. IMO, both companies are guilty of this but was wondering if people here felt differently.

This thread isn't for bashing AMD or Intel, only to address observations made by myself and others in the AMDZone forums. I can no longer post there because "The Ghost" found my last post offensive, I guess, so I would like to continue here. Post away.
 
haha....

That's typical of AMDzone (FUDzone).... They banned me when c2d came out because I was pro C2D (even though I ran a Opty 165).

The reason you got banned was because your first post was pro intel, you were branded a troll and even though you didn't break any rules, you got busted for being pro intel :)....

As far as the 4x4 goes, yes it is a stop gap EE edition from AMD.

I remember right after AMD mentioned 4x4, Anand was asking the mobo manufacturers and they flat out said they dont have a clue because AMD hasn't told them anything yet.
 
BigDH01 said:
I would like to continue a discussion that started here:

http://www.amdzone.com/index.php?na...rder=asc&sid=3279de3b149728565ec7a41c45389755

before I was ultimately banned after my final post.

I do consider 4x4 to be somewhat of a desperate move by AMD. To me it screams EE or Emergency Edition. I'm not saying the technology is bad, in fact, it might perform on par with Kentsfield or even better. I just think that AMD is choosing to cannibalize their server parts (Santa Rosa) in order to at least provide a 4 core solution. I just don't think AMD has any real long-term plans for this platform seeing as AM3 is coming out next year and is meant for the desktop. I felt the same way about EE when it was released. It just seems that this pattern is following the trail led by the EE and Intel. I really don't consider Intel's 4 core solution to be particularly elegant right now (dice on one package) but I really think they got the drop on AMD doing this. Not that 4 cores is needed by desktop users now anyway, but I still think it's an interesting observation that warrants further discussion.

Also, are Intel and AMD really that different in terms of platform changes? Granted C2Ds do not work in older 775 boards (even ones with 945, 975), but is that really much different than AMD just releasing a new socket altogether. IMO, both companies are guilty of this but was wondering if people here felt differently.

This thread isn't for bashing AMD or Intel, only to address observations made by myself and others in the AMDZone forums. I can no longer post there because "The Ghost" found my last post offensive, I guess, so I would like to continue here. Post away.

!!!Banned!!!
 
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