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Bugalaman said:It sucks, the Abit IC7-Max 3 is better.
DaveX said:IC7-Max3 isn't necessarily better. It has problems using 5:4 divider at 270-280 FSB and only 2.8 Vdimm. P4C800-E Deluxe is probably the best Intel board out there right now after you do a droop mod. P4P800-E Deluxe isn't a bad board either but I don't see how it is better than the Abit AI7.
Wedge said:Enlighten me please.
What makes the IC7-MAX3 so much better than the P4P800-E Deluxe?
I'm not disputing anything. I just want to understand what makes one motherboard better than the other because I'm not versed in this subject. And I am also trying to choose a solid (stable) board to build with a 2.8C processor.
TekMonkey said:The Max 3 has an 875 chipset whereas the p4p800 has an 865 chipset. Also the Max 3 has some features the P4P800 doesn't have, like 6x sata
And I wouldn't say abit is better than asus, but in this case, the abit motherboard seems to be better overall.
Sir-Fragalot said:Abit is NOT better than Asus. I've built alot of systems with both branded boards. I have had nothing but trouble out of Abit. Inconsistant quality and stability issues to say nothing of an actual DOA rate that I've experienced.
Asus on the other hand, feels better quality. It looks like the manufacturing of the board was done better vs. Abit. Also I've never had stability issues with Asus, nor have I EVER received a DOA Asus board.
Now the layout and sometimes the feature set of the Abit board is undoubtedly superior. Also Abit's choice of RAID controllers is better. The Highpoint controllers are alot better than the Promise ones. Also I've had compatibility issues with memory modules and Abit boards more than any other manufacturer of I865 and I875 boards. That issue even goes back to my experiences with the KT7 series.
Really what brand is prefered has to do with experiences and personal preference. I would stick an Intel board in my system before an Abit. Point is get what suits your tastes and feature requirements.
Both are considered roughly comparable with similar feature sets, reputations and stability. Both are really the top enthusiest boards in the market right now.
But the comment that Abit is superior to Asus is absolutley untrue.
SkaarjMaster said:Although, my Asus 865PE MB (P4P800-Deluxe) supports both PATA and SATA RAID as well as Gigabit LAN!
PGHammer said:You only need *that* many SATA connections if you are *not* going to connect your SATA HD in series (and since SATA is designed for just that, needing any more than *two* SATA connectors is seriously silly). What it comes down to is 865PE vs. 875P..
1. Most 875P mobos support Gigabit Ethernet *and* optional WiFi. The 865 supports at most Fast Ethernet.
2. Most 875P boards support RAID (SATA or SATA/PATA RAID, either singly or together). Again, this is something the 865PE lacks.
Can't blame him for that.
Below Ambient said:im very happy with my refurbed $76 P4C800E Delux
I haven;t had a good Asus mobo like this since my A7V-133
Sir-Fragalot said:What the i875P has over the i865PE is ECC support and true PAT. That's it. Both chipsets can be paired with the ICH5 or ICH5R Southbridge.
Asus's P4C800-Deluxe and P4C800-E Deluxe are proof of that. As the difference is in the ICH5 and ICH5R southbridge chips being the main difference. Why Asus chose to impliment the 3Com Gigabit Lan over the Intel on the CSA bus is beyond me. Other than the 3Com solution is more full featured it is slower.
Besides Gigabit ethernet only matters if you have spent enough money on gigabit hubs and switches. Which most people don't in their homes.
Sir-Fragalot said:What the i875P has over the i865PE is ECC support and true PAT. That's it. Both chipsets can be paired with the ICH5 or ICH5R Southbridge.
Asus's P4C800-Deluxe and P4C800-E Deluxe are proof of that. As the difference is in the ICH5 and ICH5R southbridge chips being the main difference. Why Asus chose to impliment the 3Com Gigabit Lan over the Intel on the CSA bus is beyond me. Other than the 3Com solution is more full featured it is slower.
Besides Gigabit ethernet only matters if you have spent enough money on gigabit hubs and switches. Which most people don't in their homes.