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Anyone skipping this generation?

bonkrowave said:
Why would you pay so much extra for an ultra when you can just buy a GT and overclock it to ultra speeds..

And the argumen that you can further overclock an ultra doesn;t work seeing as how GT's are basically underclocked ultras.
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Yeah, I have no idea why someone would bother getting an Ultra, they do overclock a little more, but not by a reliably higher margin.
Most GT's are getting like 395-425 core and 1100-1200 memory
Ultra's might be getting like 430-450 core and 1150-1250 memory

Just some average guestimate #'s from what I've seen there are exceptions on both that may do 460-500Mhz core and 1300 memory ,etc... but on average the GT is RIGHT behind the Ultra, definitely not a $100+ difference and when availability and price gouging is factored in there's definitely NO reason to buy an Ultra.

$100 MSRP difference, but real world you can find GT's readily available from $350-400 and Ultras are $550-650+ most places IF they're in stock.
So its more like a 60% more expensive price for 5% more performance if that.
 
I would say because not everyone overclocks. The people who don't build their own comps, or upgrade at best buy probably see the ultra as the best and don't know better. Either that or money isnt really an object. Take your pick :D
 
I dont skip generations, i just wait and wait and wait till the mere end when the price is good for me. Ive been doing it for the past 3 years, and will continue to do it again, thus saving me tons of money. I can play anything just like your 6800gt can minus 10-20fps.
 
EnforcerGT said:
I dont skip generations, i just wait and wait and wait till the mere end when the price is good for me. Ive been doing it for the past 3 years, and will continue to do it again, thus saving me tons of money. I can play anything just like your 6800gt can minus 10-20fps.
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this generation brought a lot of advances. i cant spend $500 or more for a vga card, but i sure will wait for the new nvidia 6600 Ultra cards, they should be coming out soon.
 
chrisf6969 said:
Yeah, I have no idea why someone would bother getting an Ultra, they do overclock a little more, but not by a reliably higher margin.
Most GT's are getting like 395-425 core and 1100-1200 memory
Ultra's might be getting like 430-450 core and 1150-1250 memory

Just some average guestimate #'s from what I've seen there are exceptions on both that may do 460-500Mhz core and 1300 memory ,etc... but on average the GT is RIGHT behind the Ultra, definitely not a $100+ difference and when availability and price gouging is factored in there's definitely NO reason to buy an Ultra.

$100 MSRP difference, but real world you can find GT's readily available from $350-400 and Ultras are $550-650+ most places IF they're in stock.
So its more like a 60% more expensive price for 5% more performance if that.
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humm well i'm going to watercool it...already got my dangerden 6800 block (had it for a month and half actualy) and i was planning to push the card to its limits.....figured the extra power might be a good idea.

i don't know what i want to do anymore to tell the truth , i'm sick of waiting and its not like i can get my hands on a gt either, they're just as rare as ultra's up here and i can't really order from a us retailer either without getting raped with brokerage fees and what not. if i didnt already have my waterblock i'd forget about it entirely and not get anything , its shitty customer service to do a 6 month paper launch and i dont realy want to give any money to nvidia or ati but since i already spent 100$ on my waterblock i might as well do something with it.
 
Lint said:
humm well i'm going to watercool it...already got my dangerden 6800 block (had it for a month and half actualy) and i was planning to push the card to its limits.....figured the extra power might be a good idea.

i don't know what i want to do anymore to tell the truth , i'm sick of waiting and its not like i can get my hands on a gt either, they're just as rare as ultra's up here and i can't really order from a us retailer either without getting raped with brokerage fees and what not. if i didnt already have my waterblock i'd forget about it entirely and not get anything , its shitty customer service to do a 6 month paper launch and i dont realy want to give any money to nvidia or ati but since i already spent 100$ on my waterblock i might as well do something with it.
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Well, if you've got a waterblock planned, then the Ultra's extra voltage regulation/supply circuitry should help you get up higher. So go for it, I meant for aircooling the OC's were similar.
 
I am skipping this generation of videocards, but the only reason is because I got a 9800XT, I know there is a DOUBLE in performance, but it is unneeded in even the newest games. I get around 100 if not more in CS:S, I get in the 60-80s on DOOM III with high settings. My videocard isnt unbearable and I wont throw it away, and upgrade until I am forced to use low settings, or get low fps. I would get this generation though if i had gotten maybe a GeForce 4, or older. However, my jump was different then most.. Radeon 7000 to 9800XT... Difference is night and day. Everyone is probley right though, for you I would get the new gen videocards, and maybe the RAM upgrade another day, or comprimise on both 512MB RAM and 6800nu.
 
EnforcerGT said:
I dont skip generations, i just wait and wait and wait till the mere end when the price is good for me. Ive been doing it for the past 3 years, and will continue to do it again, thus saving me tons of money. I can play anything just like your 6800gt can minus 10-20fps.
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This is entirely untrue ... when you wait till the end of a products life cycle you are not getting the most out of the product. If you plan on waiting till the end of the 6800 GTs lifecycle you will not be able to play games such as doom3 and hl2 at there graphics full capability. If you buy a product at the end of its life cycle you also make sure that you card is basically obsolete at that point.

And its not just a difference in FPS. You will not be able to play with dx9 effects or at a decent resolution. If you telling me you get only 10 - 20 fps lower (a made up number for sure) at 1280 x 1024 4xaa 16xaf highest detail and still end up getting 65-70 fps then I would like to buy a ticket to you imaginary world
 
I'm kinda stuck with a 5950U atm, but I'm hoping to sell that and get a GT... my system now is video-card limited. Or maybe I can get someone to give me a GT for xmas, and then sell the 5950U for a watercooling setup :cool:
 
I'm waiting for the next ATI cards (with pixel shader 3.0)..

But I got a card that supply everything I need... Geforce MX 200!!

*sigh*
 
I didn't skip this generation. I don't think that my GF3 Ti500 compares to a GF6800GT :D
 
I already skipped like four generations

Last decent card I had was a Geforce 2. I'm finally get an X800XT with a new PC soon.
 
bonkrowave said:
If you plan on waiting till the end of the 6800 GTs lifecycle you will not be able to play games such as doom3 and hl2 at there graphics full capability.
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HUH WTF?

So if you buy a 6800 GT NOW, it will run these games great...but if you wait, the 6800 GT won't run them as well?
 
jeffoz said:
I already skipped like four generations

Last decent card I had was a Geforce 2.
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Yeah, everything since then just hasn't been decent...nothing plays Quake 2 quite as well as a GeForce 2 :rolleyes:
 
WTF?

I meant that's the last last decent card *I* ever bought, moron. Not that it's the only decent card in the world, in fact as you pointed out it's a piece of shit, but it was decent when it first came out.

What a fucking idiot, lol.
 
jeffoz said:
WTF?

I meant that's the last last decent card *I* ever bought, moron. Not that it's the only decent card in the world, in fact as you pointed out it's a piece of shit, but it was decent when it first came out.

What a fucking idiot, lol.
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LMAO! Tell us how you really feel. :D

I tend not to purchase at every generation like some people do but I did that with my GF2 GTS 32MB to a GF3 Ti500 64MB. Wow that was a difference. Then, as I posted above, I waited until now to get a GF6800GT. The difference this time is astounding! :eek:
 
bonkrowave said:
This is entirely untrue ... when you wait till the end of a products life cycle you are not getting the most out of the product. If you plan on waiting till the end of the 6800 GTs lifecycle you will not be able to play games such as doom3 and hl2 at there graphics full capability. If you buy a product at the end of its life cycle you also make sure that you card is basically obsolete at that point.

And its not just a difference in FPS. You will not be able to play with dx9 effects or at a decent resolution. If you telling me you get only 10 - 20 fps lower (a made up number for sure) at 1280 x 1024 4xaa 16xaf highest detail and still end up getting 65-70 fps then I would like to buy a ticket to you imaginary world
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According to you, if I had bought my 9800pro back when it was $300, it would've had full capabilites, but since I bought it at the end of its "life cycle", its obsolete...

A card is fully capable wether you buy it the day it comes out, or you buy it 3 years from now. Cards dont just become "obsolete", its the choice of games that people play.

My $130 9800pro compensates VERY WELL against your $350 6800GT in the terms of capabilities, playability, and bang for the buck.

At the end of a card's life cycle, it has the most updated drivers, slashed prices, and has been explored to the end.

Please dont post this type of trash. You need to go back and reread, because somewhere along the lines, you lost most of your intellect.
 
if HL2 sucks as much as regular HL i will stay with my 9800 pro 256. but if BF2 requires a better card, thats a different matter ...

bf or die :)
 
I think all gamers should have at least 1gig of ram. Games like Far Cry and Doom needs it. Video card you can always turn things off like AA and Aniso, shadows etc. I tried playing Far Cry with 512megs and my hard drive is constantly thrashing and I get studders every now and then.
 
OK its all fun and games to take someones words out of context, and pretend you dont know what they really meant, when you actually do. GROW UP. Time to use the big boy voice morons. You all know exactly what I meant.

If you try and play doom 3 / half-life 2 with your ati 9 series you will not be able to play to the full potential. That is quite obvious. If you wait till the end of the 6800 product life cycle. Which will be awhile, obviously games will run the same then as they do know with the card. Like common that is common sence. You morons twisting my words blow my mind with your stupidity. It seams peoples IQs scale with the power of there graphics card.

And honestly. if you telling me that in 6 months to a year .. whenever the 6800 life cycle is over, seems longer for you guys ... are you really going to go back and play HL2 / Doom 3 all over again with your 6800. NO you are not.. WE all know this .. thoose who dont choose to accept this are just showing that their IQ is lower then mayonaise. You will obviously be trying to play the current games which will require the new Line of GF 7 vid cards or whatever it may be. And I will only laugh as you again play games to less then there full potential and bitch about how mommy wont give you any money for your new card. Well get a job ... but this does require maturity and based on your idiotic comments it is clear you have a lot of growing up to do.

Oh and to everyone who thinks there 9800 pro competes well with my 6800 GT... HAHAHA how is shader model 3 doing for you ?? oh yeah your card doesn;t support it. You may have the same FPS ... but realize this ... I will be playing at a much higher resolution with AA and AF maxed out. Its not quantity of frames .... its the individual image quality of the frames that matters.
 
bonkrowave said:
... HAHAHA how is shader model 3 doing for you ?? oh yeah your card doesn;t support it. .
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and neither do any of your games.

STFU, you have no clue what you are talking about.
 
Obviously you are the one who does not know what you are talking about. Try Farcry patch 1.2 which adds support for shader model 3.0. Honestly if you do not know what you are talking about .. why waste posts and lower other peoples IQs

OWNED

P.S. you counter arguments to everything I have written astounds me /sarcasm
 
STFU, you stupid mother freaking cuck socking sums a beothes, this generation pwns you. My card kicks all of your arses. OWNED.

(j/k - :) I just like how almost every thread in the videocard forum seems to degenerate in to a pissing/ bitching contest - a little more arguing and this thread could be come a Sticky: as how not to act in the forums!) LOL
 
bonkrowave said:
Obviously you are the one who does not know what you are talking about. Try Farcry patch 1.2 which adds support for shader model 3.0. Honestly if you do not know what you are talking about .. why waste posts and lower other peoples IQs

OWNED

P.S. you counter arguments to everything I have written astounds me /sarcasm
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Makes it go 5fps faster. WOW what excitement. http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20040705/farcry-09.html
 
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