inyourface1650
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I was thinking a couple of those new OCZ SSD's in 32 or 64GB form in RAID 0.....anyone done it yet? I would think the results would be spectacular...
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Anyone Done SSD RAID?
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that would be incredible! you gotta post some hd tune graphs of those bad boyz.
man, i hope in the very near future those ssd's get some more of thier quirks worked out and their reliability up some more, otherwise ssd's just rule. been looking at newegg and their OCZ ssd's
man, i hope in the very near future those ssd's get some more of thier quirks worked out and their reliability up some more, otherwise ssd's just rule. been looking at newegg and their OCZ ssd's
don't go anywhere near those OCZ Core drives
I've read nothing good about them (except the price), a lot of talk about data corruptions and disappointing performance
someone on here did a real nice, in depth review of them
don't have the link, but if you search around, it should be easy to find
get some real SSDs, like the ones I have/had
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1318491
I've read nothing good about them (except the price), a lot of talk about data corruptions and disappointing performance
someone on here did a real nice, in depth review of them
don't have the link, but if you search around, it should be easy to find
get some real SSDs, like the ones I have/had
http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1318491
What job do you have. I need to know so I can change my degree to something that would allow me to drop that kind of cash on cool projects.
Law school is decent for earning a bunch of cash, except you can't spend it cause you're always in the office.
I agree. When set up properly the perfomance is spectacular. I'm running 3 MTRON drives in RAID 0 with an Areca controller. SSD RAID 0 is still tricky to setup to get both reliable and spectacular performance. I'd wait until year-end for more results because you could easily spend a ton of money and time for no results.
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So true. Especially if you're in the private sector of Patent Law.
Evidently MS is doing "some work" to address the "issues" surrounding SSD and Vista performance. I'm going to wait until that's settled and then see where everything stands.
bigdogchris
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There's nothing out there that would benefit from SSD raid 0 speed, that can be stored on such small capacity drives.
Startup time.
Will saving that 20 seconds (or whatever) everytime you start up your computer make a very big change to your quality of life? If you're [H] your computer should be switched on 24/7 anyway
That's a joke, right? Using power for no reason at all = fail. By the way, I'd recommend Vista sleep, since it starts up really quickly from sleep (a good compromise).
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OK, if the workstation was JUST used for 1 single file that is being edited or you have the raid set up as a separate logical partition that contains the file that your working on. Happy now?
I just don't see anything under 64GB that would benefit entirely from the throughput of SSD in raid zero that you couldn't get from normal drives in raid zero. The access time doesn't mean shit. Maybe you should re-evaluate what you think your knowledge level it at.I switched from 1 WD6400AAKS to 2 WD6400AAKS in raid 0, and it takes longer to start up.
It's not about start up time. While VRaptors can beat SSD total throughput on large files there is a different use for RAID 0 SSDs with a quadcore.
If you need to build and test complex, custom enterprise integration software on one DEV machine (to save licensing costs) you can easily be running two different App Servers, two Data base servers, two custom apps, a software ESB, etc and then your dev tools.
then just to make it more fun, some of these big software firms won't support a 64bit dev environment. While you could set up a closer to production environment, the licensing costs for the multiple software products would then easily be over $100,000 plus your team would need full IT support.
Even relatively simplistic build and test activities create thousands of very small disc hits PLUS paging with a very similar profile to Windows boot. I've measured elapsed times for common activities drop from 15-20 minutes to under 5 minutes. In the course of a 10 hour day you can get an additional 2 plus hours of work.
If you are billing the customer at market rates, you pay for the SSD rig in about three weeks and keep your rates below the big Systems Integrators.
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If you need to build and test complex, custom enterprise integration software on one DEV machine (to save licensing costs) you can easily be running two different App Servers, two Data base servers, two custom apps, a software ESB, etc and then your dev tools.
then just to make it more fun, some of these big software firms won't support a 64bit dev environment. While you could set up a closer to production environment, the licensing costs for the multiple software products would then easily be over $100,000 plus your team would need full IT support.
Even relatively simplistic build and test activities create thousands of very small disc hits PLUS paging with a very similar profile to Windows boot. I've measured elapsed times for common activities drop from 15-20 minutes to under 5 minutes. In the course of a 10 hour day you can get an additional 2 plus hours of work.
If you are billing the customer at market rates, you pay for the SSD rig in about three weeks and keep your rates below the big Systems Integrators.
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I'd like to point out while this is the truth, this absolutely comes no where near close to what anyone would even notice any real world performance bonuses at home. Sorta like Quad-Cores.
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I know it is crazy. I totally don't notice the near 50% reduction in time when rendering videos. I mean...I personaly enjoy waiting double the time to do something. Single core for the win you n00bs.
inyourface1650
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Well, one of the big downsides to RAID (especially the more drives you get) you take more and more of a hit from access times. I mean, RAID0 with 4 drives should be 4 times as fast, but it is not due to RAID controller overhead as well as access and seek time. AKA, you have to wait for all 4 drives to get to the track where they need to be. So I think that SSD RAID0 would actually more beneficial then most believe.
I also have run RAID 0 with regular harddrives, and I have noticed a difference in day to day "workability". so i think the RAID concept for daily PC driving is fine, I just want to take it one step farther
I also have run RAID 0 with regular harddrives, and I have noticed a difference in day to day "workability". so i think the RAID concept for daily PC driving is fine, I just want to take it one step farther
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If it is a proper RAID card, your worry is not valid. If done correctly, the maximum access time is what a worst case single drive is. As for RAID controller overhead, if a proper RAID is negligable.
People need to be very careful when putting a SW RAID in the same sentence as a HW RAID.
Any SSD RAID should use a high performance RAID card to get the most out of a very expensive investment.
The "Battleship MTRON" article discusses these issues:
http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleship/
The "Battleship MTRON" article discusses these issues:
http://www.nextlevelhardware.com/storage/battleship/
I know it is crazy. I totally don't notice the near 50% reduction in time when rendering videos. I mean...I personaly enjoy waiting double the time to do something. Single core for the win you n00bs.
it's easier to just ignore the guys who clearly have no idea