Anand's X6800 vs. FX62 Article

[Donnie27]

Rahul Sood said this would happen back in May but nobody believed him except for me, it seems.

Just proves that old negative saying. "Say enough negative things about something or Someone and sooner or later you'll get one thing right." I believe we'll be able to buy Conroe in July because most of the rest of the market still don't have a clue what the hell Conroe is.

It is real easy for Intel fill THIS small market without starving OEMs. This is the hardest market for Intel to convince and you can bet they'll aim to shut the Nay sayers first and foremost.

Again, they are speculating no better than many folks here on this forum. If you start with bad data, you end up with a bad result.

 

[savantu]

Don't dissagree with you, but I wouldn't be surprised if they have a capacity problem with the Core 2 Duo's since they are a good product.

Look who has a real capacity problem : AMD
AM2 was launched may 23rd , that's 2 weeks ago and CPU are rare as hen's teeth...OTOH , the "supposed" Conroe availability is just that , a rumor.

 

[Donnie27]

Look who has a real capacity problem : AMD
AM2 was launched may 23rd , that's 2 weeks ago and CPU are rare as hen's teeth...OTOH , the "supposed" Conroe availability is just that , a rumor.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32302

No delay to Conroe, Intel says
Share prices of AMD, Intel fall on price war fears
By INQUIRER staff: Thursday 08 June 2006, 21:58
Roadmaps we’ve seen show Intel remains on track to announce and ship product in July – but of course while August is the silly season for most of the world+dog, it’s not for the channel and OEMs, who furiously work like the clappers to get product ready for back to school and all that jazz.

 

[nigerian_businessman]

It means you can tell your memory to run at one speed, and tell your processor to run another speed. It's the same thing a memory divider does, but it's much more flexible.

It was refreshing to see you answer that question in such a helpful manner, without going the typical route of 'OMG GOOGLE IS YUOR FRIEND NOOB". Nice to see friendly people still exist.

 

[Eradan]

I work for an Intel Premiere Provider and spoke with our rep yesterday afternoon. I asked him about the Core 2 supply/demand rumors. He doesn't believe there will be a problem for a late July release given that the engineering samples have been floating around for months and in previous CPU releases, he might not see an ES until a week or two prior to release.

Who knows? My allegiance belongs to neither AMD or Intel, but to the company which provides me the best computing experience for the most reasonable cost. From all the benchmarks seen in recent days, it appears Conroe is going to be a good product and affordable. That leaves those sworn to AMD with nothing to contest but the issue of CPU availability.

 

[Oh4Sh0]

Look who has a real capacity problem : AMD
AM2 was launched may 23rd , that's 2 weeks ago and CPU are rare as hen's teeth...OTOH , the "supposed" Conroe availability is just that , a rumor.

really? Not only do i see them in stock at most major retailers.. i see their price drastically falling at a few.
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/ViewProducts.hmx?PID=CPU-A64AM2&updepts=CPU&DNAME=Processors+-+CPU

compare that 3800 (oos as of today, was in stock earlier.. or compare the 3500 if u wish) to a 3800 s939 on newegg at almost $300. AMD knows intel is going to be starting a price war, and they're not just going to lay down. [ http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32304 ] They still hold their share for the x2's, so until conroe is actually released, I don't expect to see any major drops there.

 

[Donnie27]

really? Not only do i see them in stock at most major retailers.. i see their price drastically falling at a few.
http://www.mwave.com/mwave/ViewProducts.hmx?PID=CPU-A64AM2&updepts=CPU&DNAME=Processors+-+CPU

compare that 3800 (oos as of today, was in stock earlier.. or compare the 3500 if u wish) to a 3800 s939 on newegg at almost $300. AMD knows intel is going to be starting a price war, and they're not just going to lay down. [ http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=32304 ] They still hold their share for the x2's, so until conroe is actually released, I don't expect to see any major drops there.

3800+ at $300 is not a cut LOL! It's been down to $285 at one time. Yes that $300 price is still about $130 too frackin' much. SO come on guys break out the Anandtech priceguide thingy?

I find it funny as hell that in the past, AMD Fans always said AMD wouldn't Charge High prices like they Charge for FX, X2 and Opterons. When I bought my $208 3500+, 3800+ was $342. It shocks me to see folks wanting AMD to "win" so these high assed prices can stay in place, sheeeessh!

 

[Oh4Sh0]

3800+ at $300 is not a cut LOL! It's been down to $285 at one time. Yes that $300 price is still about $130 too frackin' much. SO come on guys break out the Anandtech priceguide thingy?

I find it funny as hell that in the past, AMD Fans always said AMD wouldn't Charge High prices like they Charge for FX, X2 and Opterons. When I bought my $208 3500+, 3800+ was $342. It shocks me to see folks wanting AMD to "win" so these high assed prices can stay in place, sheeeessh!

I'm not saying the 3800+ at $300 is a price cut, re-read. I said it WAS at $300, and still is at a couple places, but it has dropped to $149 overnight.

 

[Donnie27]

I'm not saying the 3800+ at $300 is a price cut, re-read. I said it WAS at $300, and still is at a couple places, but it has dropped to $149 overnight.

My bad! I didn't see the price cut story until after I posted.

 

[Sabrewulf165]

amd just got PWNED!

havent owned an intel processor since my pentium 1 66mhz in '94. cant wait to go back in july/august! got my amd opteron rig all sold and the cash is burning a hole in my pocket.

LOL Yeah they got "owned". 15-20% difference at settings that no serious gamer uses. Great. I'm all for Core 2, it looks like it will be a great chip to build a system around, and if I hadn't invested in a dual-core AMD setup 6 months ago I would probably buy one, but I did, and it's not getting any slower. I guess I just don't comprehend all these people who already have great systems rushing out replace them with something marginally faster. Wouldn't the money be better spent on a faster graphics card or something? Last time I checked, my CPU wasn't the bottleneck in anything I've been playing lately...

I find it funny as hell that in the past, AMD Fans always said AMD wouldn't Charge High prices like they Charge for FX, X2 and Opterons. When I bought my $208 3500+, 3800+ was $342. It shocks me to see folks wanting AMD to "win" so these high assed prices can stay in place, sheeeessh!

What's that you say? AMD is a business? They're trying to make MONEY?!?! Those bastards! I don't recall seeing anyone "wanting AMD to win so these high assed prices can stay in place."

 

[Donnie27]

LOL Yeah they got "owned". 15-20% difference at settings that no serious gamer uses. Great. I'm all for Core 2, it looks like it will be a great chip to build a system around, but I really don't comprehend all these people who already have great systems rushing out to buy one. Wouldn't the money be better spent on a faster graphics card or something? Last time I checked, my CPU wasn't the bottleneck in anything I've been playing lately...

What's that you say? AMD is a business? They're trying to make MONEY?!?! Those bastards! I don't recall seeing anyone "wanting AMD to win so these high assed prices can stay in place."

I saw folks saying the same thing about Intel when AMD was 10% ahead in some game. This too even as the Video card was the bottleneck.

 

[Sabrewulf165]

I saw folks saying the same thing about Intel when AMD was 10% ahead in some game. This too even as the Video card was the bottleneck.

I never said it, and keep in mind that Intel's prices were probably not that competitive at the time. Now that Intel has been getting kicked around for a few years, they're actually offering some spectacular deals. A hundred bucks for a PD805 is an incredible value, the kind that a geek like me is almost tempted to buy solely on principle (alas I have no use or need for yet another machine in my home )

 

[ThreeDee]

time to build a dozen or so intel based servers now ...


why?


..oh ...just for the halibut ..




[F]old|[H]ard

 

[Donnie27]

I never said it, and keep in mind that Intel's prices were probably not that competitive at the time. Now that Intel has been getting kicked around for a few years, they're actually offering some spectacular deals. A hundred bucks for a PD805 is an incredible value, the kind that a geek like me is almost tempted to buy solely on principle (alas I have no use or need for yet another machine in my home )

I don't have a need* either. If it were about need, I'd not have a 3500+ as my main use computer because I game on it more. I'd still be using my 2.6C/i875.

Honestly, 805 does NOTHING for me. I'd go for a 930 or wait for the price cuts and get a 950 or etc..

One of my older rigs will be sold off to make room for my new system.

 

[ThreeDee]

yeah ..my Opteron 170 @ 2.6ghz w/2gb of ram is starting to feel its age ..time to jump on Conroe as soon as it hits the streets