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Advice needed!

Xiode

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Ok, here's the deal. Right now I'm only able to get 12x200 stable, but I think that's due to the PSU. I'm going to get watercooling and upgrade the PSU to a 560w TT soon. The watercooling, I'm going to build a remote box for a house the pump, dual double heater cores, and the res.

Could I use my existing 420w TT to power the x4 120mm fans I'm going to be running on the x2 double heater cores? They are going to be connected to a Rheobus and then to the PSU. I've heard from some different people that I need to hook something up to it to use the 5v rail? Is this true, and if so, what could I put in there that could use the 5v rail?
 
I'm running my complete external system off my computers Antec True 480. I'm not using a rheobus but I can't think of any reason why you would need a 5v rail for a simple rheobus.
Here's a few pics of my system.

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How is it connected to your main rig?

I was asking about the 5v rail because some people said that if I don't use the 5v rail at all and I just use the 12v, that it could possibly undervolt/not give max voltage and/or die.
 
This is how it's connected. I don't have it connected to the PSU right now because I'm just doing the leak test. It's being powered from a test PSU. I've been running the cooling system just off 12v from the day I built it and I have also checked all the voltages with a digital voltmeter and everything checks out just fine.
Hose connections:
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12v wiring:
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Hrm... even though this wasn't the original topic, I want to talk about how you did your setup. :)

That's somewhat like how I'm going to do mine. How do you have it all connected (what's the cycle the water goes through) and what kind of temps are you getting? What components do you have? Voltage? Overclock?

Thanks in advance bro! :D
 
What components do you have?
Everything I have is listed in my Sig........... :cool: Pertty basic system really.

Overclock?
Also listed in my sig. It's not the best it'll do but I wanted to keep my ram timings tight. (2,3,2,11)

Voltage?
CPU 1.80
NB 1.7
AGP stock
Ram 2.8

Flow for the system goes Rez > Pump > Rad > out of external box > into Computer > CPU > GPU > out of computer > into external box > Rez.

Temps I'm getting with MBM. Room temp 25c, MoBo Temp 26c, CPU idle 32C CPU load 37-38c. The load temp was taken running Prime95 over night for 6 hours. I'm cooling the CPU and GPU both at the listed OC.
 
And you only have 1 double heater core right? What kind of fans do you use, and are the exhausting or intaking air? What components do you have in the watercooling setup?
 
That looks like heatercore for a '77 Bonneville with a/c to me. Those fans appear to be 120x38mm Panaflo's pulling air through the heatercore.

(I just happen to have those same components! I think every other watercooler here has that heatercore! :p)
 
Ha! Bio, I just came across a post of yours at www.houseofhelp.com about your Colder HFC12,HFCD12-3/8" Flow Series quick disconnects. Those are pretty snazzy! Now to figure out where to get them from... Where did you get yours? I hope I won't have to wait as long as those Aussies!
 
I'm sorry Bio, I'm kind of confused. Do you run that external watercooling setup off of your PSU in your computer or does it have its own PSU 24/7?

Whas the link you just gave me to the barbs that you use?

Also, how did you make the barbs go into the back of your computer like that? Did you do it yourself with a Dremel?
 
Xiode said:
I'm sorry Bio, I'm kind of confused. Do you run that external watercooling setup off of your PSU in your computer or does it have its own PSU 24/7?

Whas the link you just gave me to the barbs that you use?

Also, how did you make the barbs go into the back of your computer like that? Did you do it yourself with a Dremel?

Anyone?
 
Xiode said:
I'm sorry Bio, I'm kind of confused. Do you run that external watercooling setup off of your PSU in your computer or does it have its own PSU 24/7?

Whas the link you just gave me to the barbs that you use?

Also, how did you make the barbs go into the back of your computer like that? Did you do it yourself with a Dremel?

Xiode-

You may have signatures turned off, but in Bio-Hazard's sig there's an address to a worklog for his system that can probably help answer a lot of your questions. It's very thorough and has some good pix also.
 
Ok, thanks. I'm used to vBulliten forums where the sigs are below the posts, so I'm not used to having to have to go into someone's profile for it. :)

Here's a post that I made at another forum and I'm not getting too much feedback, any extra would be appretiated. :)

What I want to do is house my watercooling components seperately, in a external box, then run tubing from the box through the back of the case, then to the CPU/GPU. I'm going to have a double heater core for the GPU and a double heater core for the CPU. Can I do this with just 1 pump (Mag3)?
 
Xiode said:
Ok, thanks. I'm used to vBulliten forums where the sigs are below the posts, so I'm not used to having to have to go into someone's profile for it. :)

Here's a post that I made at another forum and I'm not getting too much feedback, any extra would be appretiated. :)

What I want to do is house my watercooling components seperately, in a external box, then run tubing from the box through the back of the case, then to the CPU/GPU. I'm going to have a double heater core for the GPU and a double heater core for the CPU. Can I do this with just 1 pump (Mag3)?


The Danner Mag3 has about 10 feet of head pressure. Head pressure is how high the pump can pump and hold water. That pump should be more than adequate for setups such as what you're talking about with the WC components in a box external to the computer. Just don't go too crazy on hose length.

Good luck! :)
 
What if I added a single heater core and a NB block to the loop? Would I be able to do that?

It'd be like:
Res > Pump > Double Heater Core > Double Heater Core > Single Heater Core > GPU > CPU > NB > Res
 
I seriously doubt that adding that single heatercore is going to gain you much other than extra restriction and more hose length. What type of double heatercore are you using? One like Bio-Hazard is using (77 Bonneville with AC heatercore) is one of the best (and most popular) now.

I'd just go Res >> Pump >> CPU >> NB >> GPU >> Res. Your order is fine, but it may look better (if your hose won't kink) to go CPU >> NB >> GPU and the cooling differences should be negligible.
 
Pecos said:
I seriously doubt that adding that single heatercore is going to gain you much other than extra restriction and more hose length. What type of double heatercore are you using? One like Bio-Hazard is using (77 Bonneville with AC heatercore) is one of the best (and most popular) now..

I know it's a Bonneville, just no idea what year. It's the one that's pre-modded at DangerDen's website. So if I did the order you said with x2 of those double heater cores do you think I'd be good to go?
 
Actually, I got a better idea yesterday before I went to sleep. What if I got another Mag3, and ran a whole seperate loop and had a Bonneville for my CPU and a Bonneville for my GPU + NB? Could I run them both off of the same res? Opinions?
 
Xiode said:
Actually, I got a better idea yesterday before I went to sleep. What if I got another Mag3, and ran a whole seperate loop and had a Bonneville for my CPU and a Bonneville for my GPU + NB? Could I run them both off of the same res? Opinions?

Anyone?
 
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