Advanced WC ?'s

[fickesdb]

First off I will be honest and say I did not perform a search just yet. Promise I will as soon as I close this but I have been reading a lot and nothing really addressed these ?'s Second anyone reading this, listen to these guys/gals, they know their stuff. I have my rig all installed and WC is up and running just fine. Long story short I got the TT Bigwater system when I purchased my new rig a month ago. I found out the pump would not be strong enough with my setup so I pretty much scraped it and got a custom system the next day before my stuff arrived. Out of the Bigwater I used the CPU block and the RAD/Fan. After I got my system nice and stable, wire managed, cleaned up, etc... the best I can pull are avg. temps.

? 1 if I swap my CPU block to a DD TDX block and get a DD 120mm Black Ice Extreme with Panaflow fan do you think I could see better temps or not going to help? I figure the CPU and RAD are flow restricted as I had 2 TT Rads earlier and no change in temp except the system dropped from 41C to 34 - 35 because it is not pushing hot air into the system.

Current Temps right now
CPU 40C
System 34C (house is sitting at 70F)
GPU 55C

? 2 I have a DD NV68. Are you supposed to use the provide AS Ceramique on the GPU because I used AS5 on it and as far as I can tell the block is on as it is supposed to be. I can redo if that would help but really don't want to if it is not the problem.

WC setup is Swiftech MCP650 - TT RAD - TTCPU block - DDNV68 -- Single 5 1/2 res - pump. Tubing is 3/8 ID all the way around except from res to pump with is 1/2 ID per swiftech saying it needed that. If you need more info let me know and thanks for reading and your help

 

[DFI Daishi]

as5 vs the included ceramique is not a problem. the biggest diff between the two is how good a job the person does applying each, and that is hardly the fault of the thermal compound.all other things being equal, as5 might get you an extra 3 C of cooling as compared to as ceramique.

you would probably get a few degrees benifit out of a DD block and rad, but probably not enough to justify the cost.

 

[fickesdb]

Thank you for your reply. I don't mind spending the money to achieve the best that I can get. Also since I should be able to carry the parts forward into future systems I think it would be a good investment. I guess I should ask are those decent temps for what I got or they should be better and I just need to redo some stuff?

 

[DFI Daishi]

is 40 C your load temp, or idle?

 

[fickesdb]

is 40 C your load temp, or idle?

idle. Actually I did some searching as I said I would and I am really beginning to feel the RAD and CPU block just can't hack it. I am pretty confident if I change them out I would see better results as you said. Most people here have pretty similar setups minus the RAD and CPU block and are getting much better temps. I would hate to get it but not mad and have no change but I would be very happy to dip into the mid 30's and consider it money well spent if I did. To me logic would dictate that I should get roughly the same temps as everyone else assuming it is connected and seated correctly so that is what is leading me to the conclusion about the 2 parts listed. Would you agree?

Edit: Have not run Prime95 or anything on this rig but I did play through Doom3 the first week I had it and it was smooth as silk. Maxed out settings and all. So I can live with it as it sits because I have had 0 issues with it but since it provides me with hours of enjoyment I owe it back to the CPU to take care of it as best as possible.

 

[Top Nurse]

Who cares what temp? What are you doing with the computer? Are you having problems running or OC due to temp?

Saw your next post...what kind of room do you have in the case? A single 120mm radiator would probably be just fine.

 

[fickesdb]

Who cares what temp? What are you doing with the computer? Are you having problems running or OC due to temp?

Honestly the machine runs like a champ. 0 problems since day one and I have not found anything yet that can even tax the machine yet. Every game I have played on it (doom3, hl2, civ3, etc..) I can max out the settings and it will run 100%, no problems. I don't OC and most likely won't because I have bad luck with that sort of thing. I mostly surf the internet, read email and play a game now and then. Nothing fancy. The only reason I have been looking at the temps is because I want to take care of my rig and do the best job I can. If the general concensous is that I am pretty much maxed out then I can live with that.

 

[DFI Daishi]

if you're not OCing, then you should probably just leave it.

i would grudgingly argee that the temp gains that you would get would be worthwhile if they allowed you wring some extra MHz out of you system, but as things stand, you CPU should last for like 20 years at those temps and speeds, well beyond it's usefull lifespan.

 

[fickesdb]

the case is a rip off of the CM stacker, just not as nice. As the case sits it supports 1 120mm in the back and was designed around the TT Bigwater system. I zip tied the other rad to the front but felt it was trashy and actually since I went back to 1 discovered it was hurting more then helping. I could run a 80mm at the top but I would have to do a little modding since TT uses a fan bracket there instead of screw holes. Of couse I could cut out the bottom to mount a dual but then I would have to take away my nifty custom made wooden dowel rod that holds my GPU up because of the weight of the DD NV68 block. Yes those blocks will bow your GPU card real quick if you don't fab some support for it.

 

[Top Nurse]

Well I suppose an old saying comes to mind here. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Unless of course you like to do this kind of stuff and then all bets are off and the sky is the limit

 

[fickesdb]

Well I suppose an old saying comes to mind here. If it ain't broke, don't fix it! Unless of course you like to do this kind of stuff and then all bets are off and the sky is the limit

True, very true. I am the type of person that it will irritate me if I don't try