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A Good WB for AMD?

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FireBean

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I'm looking to replace my current POS WB, and I have read ALOT of reviews. But I have yet to see one that is reviewed with an AMD proc (and I understand why). I have no problem with this, but the problem I'm experiences is that most if not all of the adapter plates to hook these blocks to an AMD system do not have a back panel that goes behind the CPU. All they use is some tiny plastic washers. Doing this bends and puts strain on the PCB.

Basic question. Is there a AMD compatible WB that comes with a reinforcing back panel?
 
the XSPC Rasa one is working out pretty well with my 1090T, however, it didnt come with a back plate i just used the one from my H50
 
W.Feather said:
the XSPC Rasa one is working out pretty well with my 1090T, however, it didnt come with a back plate i just used the one from my H50
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+1. Very nice block. I modified my motherboard's existing back plate.
 
Ok, I'll have to do this. My current block is the XSPC Delta V3, and it does not do a very good job. Although, it is very possible that I'm just blowing hot air through my rad. I wonder if there is a fluid that conducts heat better than water... Maybe Alcohol!
 
FireBean said:
Ok, I'll have to do this. My current block is the XSPC Delta V3, and it does not do a very good job. Although, it is very possible that I'm just blowing hot air through my rad. I wonder if there is a fluid that conducts heat better than water... Maybe Alcohol!
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Best to stick to water, lol. Pure distilled. Personally, I'm not a fan of additives. But many have great success with them.

Try isolating your rad's intake more to ensure no hot air is cycling through it unnecessarily.
 
You should look into the Koolance 370 block, it's a micro grove design and has gotten excellent reviews. It comes with a healthy back plate or for AMD systems you can use the one that comes with the Motherboard.
 
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FireBean said:
I wonder if there is a fluid that conducts heat better than water... Maybe Alcohol!
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window washer fluid used to be a favorite. after that would be salt water but unless everything's stainless that's not a good idea.
 
Window Washer Fluid?! Holy Cow!

I'm not sure a Koolance 370 is that great either. Skinny Labs has them in his latest roundup and there are better. But then again he is testing on a intel rig. :(
 
FireBean said:
Window Washer Fluid?! Holy Cow!

I'm not sure a Koolance 370 is that great either. Skinny Labs has them in his latest roundup and there are better. But then again he is testing on a intel rig. :(
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Haha, yeah, I'd advise against window washer fluid. And like I said, distilled water, you can't go wrong. It's the purest and simplest approach. Additives will result in only minor improvement, if any at all.

I'd also like to add to my suggestion of the XSPC Rasa block, that most EK Supreme blocks would be outstanding as well. And will match your selection of GPU blocks.

Make sure you start a worklog and share your wc project with us! :D
 
I don't get why you're so obsessed over the use of Intel chips for testing. The relative performance differences between the blocks on Intel testing applies to AMD as well.
 
Tsumi said:
I don't get why you're so obsessed over the use of Intel chips for testing. The relative performance differences between the blocks on Intel testing applies to AMD as well.
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He doesn't appear to be "obsessed" with anything here, fella. Relax :D
 
cmadki4 said:
He doesn't appear to be "obsessed" with anything here, fella. Relax :D
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Based on his posts, he seems to think that blocks perform differently on AMD and Intel processors, and that one block that performs well on Intel wouldn't perform as well on AMD, and vice versa.
 
Placement of the cores, and the size of the IHS make a large difference IMO. Also, AMD chips have higher wattage requirements and the need to stay cooler on top of that for better overclocks. Now, I believe the biggest factor with water-blocks when comparing to Intel and AMD is the mounting mechanism. At least half of the water-blocks i have seen come with some improved mount for the intel chips while the AMD chips get stuck with some crappy plastic washers the on some boards (like mine) end up popping right through the hole.

I'm not obsessed though. Just annoyed. I know what I'm about to say is apples to oranges, but the two chips cooler off differently with high performance air-coolers. Over at benchmark reviews, the guy did bench some of the higher end air setups on an AMD system. Get this, the best one that was hooked to an Intel Chip was NOT the best one of the AMD system. I think the same for water blocks.

I believe (though totally unable to prove) that while some WBs are able to achieve lower temps based on one heat source, another can out perform it if the heat output is increased or decrease based on design and flow characteristics.

These are my OPINIONS. Please be courteous., and lets have some more of the awesome discussion!
 
FireBean said:
Placement of the cores, and the size of the IHS make a large difference IMO. Also, AMD chips have higher wattage requirements and the need to stay cooler on top of that for better overclocks. Now, I believe the biggest factor with water-blocks when comparing to Intel and AMD is the mounting mechanism. At least half of the water-blocks i have seen come with some improved mount for the intel chips while the AMD chips get stuck with some crappy plastic washers the on some boards (like mine) end up popping right through the hole.

I'm not obsessed though. Just annoyed. I know what I'm about to say is apples to oranges, but the two chips cooler off differently with high performance air-coolers. Over at benchmark reviews, the guy did bench some of the higher end air setups on an AMD system. Get this, the best one that was hooked to an Intel Chip was NOT the best one of the AMD system. I think the same for water blocks.

I believe (though totally unable to prove) that while some WBs are able to achieve lower temps based on one heat source, another can out perform it if the heat output is increased or decrease based on design and flow characteristics.

These are my OPINIONS. Please be courteous., and lets have some more of the awesome discussion!
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The original Core i7's, the 9xx series, ran WAY hotter than any Phenom II. 125 watt TDP of the top-end Phenom II's vs the 130 watt TDP of the 9xx series.

Also, how significant was that difference? 5 C or so, that can be attributed to statistical error due to differences in mounting, unless they unmounted and remounted it at least 10 times and got the same result. The difference may also be due to one forced orientation for the AMD design, but Intel can basically be rotated to whatever matches the airflow best.

Yes, it's a bit annoying that Intel gets a backplate and AMD doesn't. But that's the way it has been. Hopefully this will change in the near future.

Also, many blocks can come with different nozzle configurations. I know for sure the D-tek Fuzion V2 had at least 2-3 different nozzles for use on different types of processors. But the main performance determinant in a watercooling system is how well of a contact the block makes to the CPU IHS. Any other differences are minimal at best.
 
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