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64-bit Intel is official

last time I saw an apraisal of microsoft's plans this version of 64 bit windows was never going to be sold in stores either, it was only going to be available to oem, although that was several months ago and in light of intels announcement that has probably changed. oh, and if intel were to push the epic architecture to home users, I am sure microsoft would push their os for it into those markets, but atm, if you are getting an itanium machine, paying a couple thousand for windows server 2003 would be something of a minimal expendature.
 
Originally posted by Burning Phoenix
I'm a home user with WS2003. WS2003 is easily works as a OS. What rules are you using to differentiate the home user from the commercial user?

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If the Itanium MB's were reasonably priced and the 1.4 or 1.5 ghz were under $500 i'd buy them. Actually if the total system price were under $2000 with dual Itanium II's I'm sure AMD would have a hell of a time selling anything at least top end.

To the first question:

Nothing, except the amount of $$ you can sink. Thats why businesses are generally higher profit margin than home users. Not only can OEM's sell their product, but they can sell their support services.

As for the second question, the lowest priced Itaniums are around $700. The motherboard is actually a lot more expensive to make than the processor itself. Since Itanium boards are high end, they generally come standard with stuff home boards can only begin to fathom... including... Minimum of Dual CPU, Dual Redundant PSU connectors, Quad Channel DDR, PCI-X, U320 SCSI, Intel Server GigE (not the cheapo crap), better caps/resistors/what not.
 
Originally posted by cheeta05r
Intel has Xeon level chips with 64-bit extensions on the horizon, but when will that come to the desktop level? Guesses?
It'll come to the desktop when it is strategically advantageous for Intel to do so, and not before. The announcement seems timed to derail any momentum that AMD may have been building up with their own 64-bit CPUs. I think that an Intel spokesman said that they don't think 64-bit will be moving to the desktop until 2006, but that could just be a number thrown out there. If there's enough interest and software starts to show up sooner, you'll see x86-64 Intel chips for sale.

AMD can claim a moral victory of sorts, but that won't matter much on the financial statements. I doubt there were any smiling faces at AMD HQ when this annoucement was made.
 
Originally posted by batotman
You got a license for that Win2003?
My thoughts exactly.
Windows 2003 server can be used as a desktop OS, same as all previous versions.
Go buy Norton Antivirus... oh wait...
How many client licenses did you get with your "desktop OS"?
How much does it cost?
 
I'm running Windows 2003 enterprise edition for extended systems on my PC - build 1159. =) Price? Free. Well, it'll stop working after a year.
 
Originally posted by redpriest
I'm running Windows 2003 enterprise edition for extended systems on my PC - build 1159. =) Price? Free. Well, it'll stop working after a year.
touche.
didn't think about that, I have a copy myself...
 
Maybe he's MSCP - it offers you 25 licenses to run whichever MS products you want to familiarize yourself with. ;)

I don't know of any company that doesn't option one way or another, for a MSCP or some other support tier, to avoid the full blown license costs. MS products are way too expensive to pay their bogus selling points, no matter what size of company uses their product.
 
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