61.45 Forceware = Nvidias Magic Drivers

WHQL does mean something, I have run the WHQL tests here myself many times on drivers. The process the drivers have to go through to pass the WHQL process is intense. There are standards in DirectX, and it is good to know that a driver has to pass all the tests and meet these standards before it is given the WHQL stamp.
 
Brent_Justice said:
WHQL does mean something, I have run the WHQL tests here myself many times on drivers. The process the drivers have to go through to pass the WHQL process is intense. There are standards in DirectX, and it is good to know that a driver has to pass all the tests and meet these standards before it is given the WHQL stamp.
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Brent, why do think that nvidia wouldn't want to keep whql drivers? Surely it isn't the fee. That is but a drop in the bucket to Nvidia. Just curious to what you think it would be, I remember that Nvidia used to keep whql drivers all of the time, then I think they stopped around the whole 3dmark episode.
 
they still WHQL their major releases. (all the ones they offer from their website are WHQL AFAIK). they don't send betas for WHQL tests because that is stupid.
 
creedAMD said:
Brent, why do think that nvidia wouldn't want to keep whql drivers? Surely it isn't the fee. That is but a drop in the bucket to Nvidia. Just curious to what you think it would be, I remember that Nvidia used to keep whql drivers all of the time, then I think they stopped around the whole 3dmark episode.
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what do you mean by "woulnd't want to keep whql drivers" ?

so far every driver release on nvidia's webpage have bene stamped WHQL
 
tranCendenZ said:
lol yep there is a fee:
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hwtest/pages/testing.mspx

$250 per product per OS per driver :)

i.e. Nvidia/ATI pays $250 for each operating system for every driver they release, and probably even for each product that driver is WHQL'd for.
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$250 is a drop in the bucket but if its for each card... that adds up
Ex:
NVIDIA_NV05.DEV_0028.1 = "NVIDIA RIVA TNT2/TNT2 Pro"
NVIDIA_NV05.DEV_002C.1 = "NVIDIA Vanta/Vanta LT"
NVIDIA_NV05.DEV_0029.1 = "NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV05.DEV_002D.1 = "NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Model 64/Model 64 Pro"
NVIDIA_NV10.DEV_0100.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce 256"
NVIDIA_NV10.DEV_0101.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce DDR"
NVIDIA_NV10.DEV_0103.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro"
NVIDIA_NV11.DEV_0110.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce2 MX/MX 400"
NVIDIA_NV11.DEV_0111.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce2 MX 100/200"
NVIDIA_NV11.DEV_0113.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro2 MXR/EX"
NVIDIA_CR11.DEV_01A0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce2 Integrated GPU"
NVIDIA_NV15.DEV_0150.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce2 GTS/GeForce2 Pro"
NVIDIA_NV15.DEV_0151.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce2 Ti"
NVIDIA_NV15.DEV_0152.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce2 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV15.DEV_0153.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro2 Pro"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0170.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 460"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0171.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0172.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 420"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0173.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440-SE"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_0178.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 550 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV17.DEV_017A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS"
NVIDIA_NV18.DEV_0181.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440 with AGP8X"
NVIDIA_NV18.DEV_0182.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 440SE with AGP8X"
NVIDIA_NV18.DEV_0185.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX 4000"
NVIDIA_NV18.DEV_0188.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 580 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV18.DEV_018A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS with AGP8X"
NVIDIA_NV18.DEV_018B.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 380 XGL"
NVIDIA_CR17.DEV_01F0.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 MX Integrated GPU"
NVIDIA_NV20.DEV_0200.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce3"
NVIDIA_NV20.DEV_0201.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 200"
NVIDIA_NV20.DEV_0202.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce3 Ti 500"
NVIDIA_NV20.DEV_0203.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro DCC"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0250.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4600"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0251.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4400"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0253.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0258.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 900 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_0259.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 750 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV25.DEV_025B.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 700 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0280.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0281.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4200 with AGP8X"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0282.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce4 Ti 4800 SE"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0288.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 980 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV28.DEV_0289.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro4 780 XGL"
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_0301.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_0302.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5800"
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_0308.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 2000"
NVIDIA_NV30.DEV_0309.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1000"
NVIDIA_NV31.DEV_0311.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV31.DEV_0312.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600"
NVIDIA_NV31.DEV_0314.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5600XT"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0321.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0322.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200 "
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0323.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5200SE"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_0326.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5500"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_032A.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro NVS 280 PCI"
NVIDIA_NV34.DEV_032B.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 500/600 PCI"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0330.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0331.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0332.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5900XT"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0333.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5950 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_0338.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 3000"
NVIDIA_NV35.DEV_033F.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 700"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0341.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700 Ultra"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0342.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0343.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700LE"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_0344.1 = "NVIDIA GeForce FX 5700VE"
NVIDIA_NV36.DEV_034E.1 = "NVIDIA Quadro FX 1100"
+ 3 FOR 6800, 6800GT & 6800U

OS's:
Win XP, Win2000, Win 98, WinME ?

70 products x 4 OS's x $250 = $70,000
that can't be right? ? can it?

Or maybe thats why I think some of the drivers say they're only WHQL'd for FX series?
 
wow, that is alot of money for a little stamp of approval, no wonder Nvidia driver releases have slowed down some. how many cards does ATI WHQL for now, I know they have limited themselves to 2 OS's now.
 
Merlin45 said:
wow, that is alot of money for a little stamp of approval, no wonder Nvidia driver releases have slowed down some. how many cards does ATI WHQL for now, I know they have limited themselves to 2 OS's now.
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Not true, Microsoft no longer gives WHQL to 98 or ME O/S's, it is not ATi's fault...
 
Moofasa~ said:
Not true, Microsoft no longer gives WHQL to 98 or ME O/S's, it is not ATi's fault...
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I thought MS extended their support for W98 a few more years. And what about WinME that was released after W98 so they should still be WHQL'ing for WinME (which is the same as 98)

When was WinME released? - in late 99 ? I think
 
You guys remind me of how outdated my 3d card is.. Hercules GeForce 2 GTS with 64mb. Was a badass card when I got it.. But I'm thinking i'm in need of upgrading now :(
 
I would say so. I can't imagine that running the latest and greatest games at even minimum settings anymore. lol
 
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