4770k or 3930k?

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Ikasu

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I'm completely lost on what I should do. I have a 3930k coming in tomorrow that I was planning to sell locally and pick up a haswell cpu and board. But I can't make up my mind on which path to take.

ATM I have a i7 920 @ 4ghz...Regarding uses....Gaming mostly, lots of gaming, music, movies...I do work in photoshop and plan to get into 3d. But I barely use them at the moment and don't want that to toss me into a 3930k considering single threaded performance would be much better on the 4770k....Also if I don't get into 3d...It would be a waste on the 3930. I do plan to twitch stream though, so more cores could help there...I do have a Qnix qx2710 monitor coming in, So planning to do 96+ hz (hopefully it can oc the 120 =D) gaming @ 2560x1440...

I have two choices really...I could stay with the 3930k and use my incoming kraken x60 for cooling.

Or..

I could sell the 3930k locally for under 500, buy a board and cpu from microcenter and only be paying about 80 or so out of pocket for a new gen architecture. I know it runs extremely hot, but I picked up some liquidmetal ultra cause I was planning to delid the beast anyways

If I do go the 3930k route though, I COULD sell it in a couple months or so when the Ivybridge-E comes out...Hop on that to get a more current architecture. Regardless though, seems both sockets will be EOL, I can see 2011 only going till Ivy-E, the socket may live on, but I believe a logic refresh for DDR4 will be taken for Haswell-E. Also the 1150 will only be up to broadwell and it's done and done..

Shit, what would you guys do? =O....HALP!!
 
lol...This system is 4 years old already. About time for an upgrade....No USB 3, sata 3gbs which will limit my incoming Samsung Pro 840 SSD, etc...

Especially considering I plan to play at 2560x1440, I want a strong cpu. I still can't make up my mind. Only thing is the single threaded performance of the 4770k leans me over that way. But I begin to consider when Ivy-E comes out, I can sell my 3930k sandy E and put some money on top of it for an Ivy-E...It will at least bring it closer to the 4770k but get me 6 cores...But takes a bit more money...

I'm really at a loss...I can't make up my mind, and I need to make it up by tonight considering I either need to order a socket 2011 board, or pick up a haswell and asus z87 deluxe I have on hold for me atm at a local retailer...
 
There is no point to future proofing. Buy what suites your needs right now, today. You will be able to sell both if you ever need to. Personally, i would go with the new gen, just because i like having brand new stuff. The 3930k would be nice for 3d, but you will get by without it. Plus, the 4770k is hyperthreaded, so virtual 8 cores.

Being a cheapskape, i would go with haswell. But go with whatever you think will suite your needs. If you dont end up doing 3d, it is a bit of a waste.
 
Ikasu said:
lol...This system is 4 years old already. About time for an upgrade....No USB 3, sata 3gbs which will limit my incoming Samsung Pro 840 SSD, etc...

Especially considering I plan to play at 2560x1440, I want a strong cpu. I still can't make up my mind. Only thing is the single threaded performance of the 4770k leans me over that way. But I begin to consider when Ivy-E comes out, I can sell my 3930k sandy E and put some money on top of it for an Ivy-E...It will at least bring it closer to the 4770k but get me 6 cores...But takes a bit more money...

I'm really at a loss...I can't make up my mind, and I need to make it up by tonight considering I either need to order a socket 2011 board, or pick up a haswell and asus z87 deluxe I have on hold for me atm at a local retailer...
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I don't think the 6-core is such a good option right now. Fall should bring new CPU's to 2011 LGA. It's summer already. I'd wait a bit of LGA 2011 is your thing.

4770k isn't that great of an option either.

But 4770k' platform has some nice features compared to LGA 2011. That's the only reason I'd go 4770k.
 
I was gonna go Haswell from this 775 socket too. But no matter going 3770k, 4770k, or 2011 all platforms will be dead in the fact that DDR4 would require you to perform a rebuild anyways. This is what has me leaning on going the cheapest route possible yet retain high performance levels. That would be the 3770k imho. $249 at microcenter plus $40 off a mobo equals $415(3770k + Maximus V Gene mATX) not counting tax(so roughly under $450). I then plan to upgrade 3 years down the road for the latest greatest platform, unless things require me to upgrade before then(not likely).
 
Yea....I honestly can't make up my mind. Ivy-E will be out in a few months, but I could always use the 3930k for 2-3 months and replace it with a Ivy-E, and sell the Sandy-E here on the forums. So not that big of an issue for me regarding that path. Kinda sad that in these past 4 years, there hasn't been a big enough jump even from an older i7 920 to what we have now....But I really do need to start swapping this rig.

I'm either going to pick up a 4770k + asus board from microcenter, since they have the bundle promotion. Or pick up a 2011 socket board, use my 3930k for a few months and drop in a 4930k upon release....The only reason I'm considering going the 2011 route is mostly due to streaming, having those 2 extra cores would help, but is it really worth following that path just for that? >_<...
 
Unless you are really into benchmarking, then there is no need to upgrade.

Get a kickass video card and call it a day.

You can always drop a 970 in there at some point if you need the extra cores. Almost all of them OC easily to 4ghz.
 
I need usb 3, I need sata 6...I have a Samsung pro 840 sitting next to me, and sata 3gbs is just not enough.

Plus running 2560x1440 res games at 100-120hz is demanding. I have a gtx 670 atm..Will sell sool and replace with either a 770, dual 770's, or wait for amd's lineup for hd8000 before I decide.

Single threaded performance on haswell is a pretty decent jump compared to my nehalem chip. Comparing Ivy to Haswell, small jump, Haswell to sandy on the other hand is decent. So if I do plan to go the 2011 setup, I will have to upgrade to a Ivy-E, otherwise I feel like I wasted my money on a dated system already which is NOT COOL.

Man...This is tough...>_<..
 
Ikasu said:
I need usb 3, I need sata 6...I have a Samsung pro 840 sitting next to me, and sata 3gbs is just not enough.

Man...This is tough...>_<..
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What are you talking about. LGA2011 supports USB 3.0 and SATA-6. My Samsung 840 Pro is hooked up to SATA-6.
Using a 3930k on a ASUS Rampage Formula IV right now. Not only do I have USB 3.0 and SATA-6, I also have PCIE 3.0. LGA2011 may be old in terms of when it was first released but is still ahead in many ways. It isn't a dead socket and has lots of life left.
 
When I stated I need usb3 and sata 6...I was talking in regards to my current i7 920 system, and people stating for me to stay as is...-_-...lol

If I go 2011, I'mma be replacing that 3930k for a 4930k in the next few months once released, and selling my 3930k....That is the plan IF I go socket 2011, but it will hit me for more money. Or I could just go 4770k with a haswell board...>_<...
 
Ikasu said:
When I stated I need usb3 and sata 6...I was talking in regards to my current i7 920 system, and people stating for me to stay as is...-_-...lol

If I go 2011, I'mma be replacing that 3930k for a 4930k in the next few months once released, and selling my 3930k....That is the plan IF I go socket 2011, but it will hit me for more money. Or I could just go 4770k with a haswell board...>_<...
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We have no idea exactly when Ivy-E will be released. Yes, it will be faster at stock than the 3930k (prob 10-15% avg), but it may end up being a crappy overclocker like regular Z77 Ivy. So a 3930k overclocked may end up still being faster.

The 3930k is a great CPU and 6 cores will go a long way in the future than a 4 core Haswell will. We are already seeing games where 6 cores has a clear advantage. This will only grow with the future consoles coming out this year which will be more multi core and threaded.
 
BatJoe said:
We are already seeing games where 6 cores has a clear advantage.
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Which games show an advantage with 6 cores? Honestly curious, because literally every attempt I've seen to benchmark this shows zero advantage(in games) for current LGA2011 CPUs vs regular Ivy Bridge, let alone Haswell.
 
BatJoe said:
We have no idea exactly when Ivy-E will be released. Yes, it will be faster at stock than the 3930k (prob 10-15% avg), but it may end up being a crappy overclocker like regular Z77 Ivy. So a 3930k overclocked may end up still being faster.

The 3930k is a great CPU and 6 cores will go a long way in the future than a 4 core Haswell will. We are already seeing games where 6 cores has a clear advantage. This will only grow with the future consoles coming out this year which will be more multi core and threaded.
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The one thing that worries me, I'd be investing in a much older architecture. Yes it's Solder based for the IHS to die, so easy oc'ing out of the box. Compared to a Ivy-E which I will have to delid, and do not mind at all doing so, which will result in a great oc as long as intel doesn't f it up...But I doubt they will with this. Yes they will use tim though cause they are gay =*(.

But investing so much into a older architectures worries me. Single threaded performance on a 4770 is quite a bit better compared to the 3930k. If it was a 4930k though, it is a negligible difference that I would not mind for the extra 2 cores. So If I go socket 2011, I have to upgrade to Ivy-e....This is what is really chewing me here....I just can't make up my mind if it's worth spending more money on an Ivy-e approach =*(...

I have a i7 4770k and an asus x87 deluxe on hold for me, which I can pick up tomorrow. I have my 3930k coming in tomorrow as well. So I have a choice....The question is which route should I take....

More gaming and twitch streaming than anything else, photo work, plan to get into 3d modeling. I just can't make up my mind which route to take cpu wise.....=*(
 
When it comes right down to it, in your primary usage (gaming) you are going to see very little between the cpus. The deciding factor should be quality and features of the platform/motherboard. Haswell gives you the most up to date CPU tech as far as CPU extensions go, and a very solid platform on z87.
 
Alright...3930k it is. It arrives tomorrow, ordering a rampage formula x79 board as well. 3 months down the road, it's gonna pop up on the for sale section and I'm going to nab a 4930k...=O
 
4.0GHz i7 930 here. My LGA1366 Rampage III Extreme has USB 3.0 and 6Gb/s SATA. I'm skipping Haswell I think and grabbing SLI 780s, and a Samsung 840 pro. I'm not seeing much reason to upgrade, but I suppose that remains to be seen when I finally pull the trigger on the 780s. Just waiting to see if any interesting (ie faster) non-reference cards hit the stores.
 
Sorry for hjijacking, but there are a ton of these threads already and I don't feel another one was necessary.

Same question as OP but for an SLI build specifically my own.
 
I am going to go with the 4930 which should be available later this month. I want the six cores and I have no use for built in graphics. The Haswell, although newer, seems to be optimized for touch Ultrabooks and tablets.
 
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