30" LEDs Samsung coming.

"According to the company, depending on image signals, the local dimming LED divides the display by blocks and offers brightness accordingly; in other words, backlight is turned off in dark areas and therefore it generates true black color."

The application of dynamic contrast ratio technology, in current LCD's, sucks. The success of the LED display seems hinged upon better application of dynamic contrast.

And Samsung is still using S-PVA's. I have little faith.
 
And I just bought my first LCD! :mad:

Well, this is just the first consumer itteration of the technology. It will most likely take a couple years to really get the kinks ironed out and the prices to reach an acceptable level.. Because I'm not planning on buying a new LCD for a long time.
 
It better be coming out this year!! Lets just pray this is under $2000!
 
I saw it at CES and it looked pretty damn good especially in comparison to their 20 inch LED which suffered from teh normal PVA color shift issues and really didnt look that great.
 
That thing sounds awesome, too bad I'll never be able to justify spending that kind of coin on a monitor. Hopefully in the coming years the price will drop to where it's more 'affordable' ($2000 or so), then I can justify buying one.
 
J-Mag said:
I love their marketing: 12.4 mega pixel display? :rolleyes:
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Since when is 2560x1600 = 12.4 megapixels? LOL! I guess if you multiply the number of pixels by 3 colors you get 12 million or something. Crazy marketing indeed.
 
MentatYP said:
Since when is 2560x1600 = 12.4 megapixels? LOL! I guess if you multiply the number of pixels by 3 colors you get 12 million or something. Crazy marketing indeed.
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Yeah absolutely, Sharp also do this with their line of of HDTVs. The 1920x1200 model which is about 2m pixels is quoted as being 6.2m pixels because of each RGB subpixel.

Is it just me or should all marketing people be shot? In thier deffence for this particular issue though all digital cameras (accept Sigma cameras using Foveon X3 sensors) also employ this pixel twisting marketing gimick.
 
artmonkey said:
Yeah absolutely, Sharp also do this with their line of of HDTVs. The 1920x1200 model which is about 2m pixels is quoted as being 6.2m pixels because of each RGB subpixel.

Is it just me or should all marketing people be shot? In thier deffence for this particular issue though all digital cameras (accept Sigma cameras using Foveon X3 sensors) also employ this pixel twisting marketing gimick.
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Except that Bayer sensor digital cameras actually output as many pixels as they claim, whereas this TV does not. In a way, Sigma with their Foveon literature also misleads, in that they claim 10.2 MP (which is technically true since there are that many photosites) but only output files of 3.4 MP.
 
artmonkey said:
all digital cameras (accept Sigma cameras using Foveon X3 sensors) also employ this pixel twisting marketing gimick.
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How so? I don't have seen any cameras to have that kind of marketing. Megapixels correlate with their resolution correctly.
 
comparing the spec. of the engadget link vs. the old rel. of the CX305T, they seems to be 2 different LCD panel. Anyone can shed some light on that?
 
Cuthalu said:
How so? I don't have seen any cameras to have that kind of marketing. Megapixels correlate with their resolution correctly.
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Read up on Bayer sensors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bayer_filter

Essentially, when a digicam manufacturer claims, say 4MP, that means there really are 4 million pixels in the sensor, but each photosite only captures one color. The camera then demosaics the original image to generate a 4MP image with proper colors. The exception to this is Sigma with their SD9/SD10 digital SLRs that use Foveon sensors, except that Sigma inflate their numbers in (IMO) a much more misleading way, because their quoted MP count isn't the same as the MP count of their cameras' output files.
 
They told 2560x1600 then x 3 to come up w/ that no. They should only use 2560x1600.

I can't see how can they do the x3. Because even it is RGB, you ends up displaying one unique color only, not 3.
 
According to my knowledge, Sigmas new Foveon sensor outputs IN REALITY a 14mp file. Thats only with JPEG files, the RAW will be 4.3 or so. This is like what others said, it has an RGB photosensor at every location of the sensor. The Camera then does it's magic (I don't know if its interpolation or not) but they produce stunning 14mp resolution.

This might be the same ploy that TV mfgs are using, as in reality there is 3 photosensors for each pixel, so then they can multiply by 3 or whatever.

http://www.sigmaphoto.com/cameras/sd14_feature_01.asp
 
does this all mean that lcds are not to be purchased anymore?
 
artmonkey said:
Yeah absolutely, Sharp also do this with their line of of HDTVs. The 1920x1200 model which is about 2m pixels is quoted as being 6.2m pixels because of each RGB subpixel.

Is it just me or should all marketing people be shot? In thier deffence for this particular issue though all digital cameras (accept Sigma cameras using Foveon X3 sensors) also employ this pixel twisting marketing gimick.
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they should b shot... i really hate that manufacturers give a minimum gtg ms tag to their monitors - why not average response time?
 
m104 said:
they should b shot... i really hate that manufacturers give a minimum gtg ms tag to their monitors - why not average response time?
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The same reason that every other marketing firm slings bullshit to misrepresent. So their products seem competitive, even if they aren't. Seeing as our government won't do anything about it until a large # of people bring a class action suit.

MP rating is a great show of this.. Even when you double MP rating, the actual real resolution only goes up 40%.
 
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