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Alright now i did some searches here on hardforum & google and i cant seem to find one thread that actually names one monitor as the champ of the latest 30-inch club when compared all together instead of just a few.

We have:

Dell 3007WFP-HC
HP LP3065
Samsung 305t
Gateway xhd3000
Apple CD HD
Eizo SX3031W-H

Now my original pick was the gateway untill i started hearing about this defect problem. I will purchase one of these in DEC. so just need some help deciding which is best.

my use for this will be everything from:

>PC
1. Gaming (response time is important)
2. Photoshop (color is important)
>XBOX (connectivity is important)
>HDD (hdmi)

probably from this above you might think that the gateway will best fit my needs but im willing to sacrafice if i need to (i hope they fix the defect soon), i just want an all around excellent monitor. What do you guys think?
 
I am going to update everyone here on [H] with follow ups regarding the revision of the monitor. Once the engineering lab receives mine and further investigates the issue, they would be able to inform me of the actions that they will be taking to resolve the defect.

Anyways, here's my input.
IF you can afford it, get the Eizo. The color accuracy is next to none. Although I'm not too sure of their flexscan models. If color accuracy is mission critical to you, consider their Coloredge models.

As you're aware, all of the other 30" panels (other than XHD3000) don't offer you the connectivity and image processing.

There is no monitor out yet that can satisfy all of your needs. And as you stated, you're "willing to sacrifice" - then my suggestion is the Gateway XHD3000. BUT, and I repeat BUT - wait it out a bit. I'm not sure if the manufacturing defect will be resolved by December, but there is a chance it may be - depending on the analysis of the engineers.

So my advice is just hang tight and wait for an update by me, or any others that has purchased the xhd3000 and are waiting for Gateway to investigate the problem.
 
i had been leaning toward the dell, but the idea of multiple inputs on the gateway was a + (not a gamer, but wanted to hook a digital hd cable box via hdmi) and the dell doesn't give me that option...

still, that's a $400 difference more than the dell

the HP is the only one I've seen in person (now offered at costco as part of a total computer + monitor system @$2199)

30's are not common yet...i figure that this holiday season would be our first opportunity to actually see them in action

right now i have a dual monitor system - princeton 19" and samsung 22" positioned vertically for web surfing - want to replace the 19" with a 30"

decisions, decisions
 
The XHD3000 for a digital hd cable box via hdmi looks pretty great.
Considering the plethora of connectivity options on the gateway, plus the realta image processing chip incorporated into the display - I say it's worth the extra $400 dollars.
 
Yeah ... im not going to lie, from my research gateway takes the crown in my book for everything that i need it for.

I hope they fix this issue because i need a monitor bad, i had a 23 apple cinema display for years and loved it, except when it came down to gaming (16ms didnt cut it for me). I know there is no such thing as an all around monitor just yet but the gateway is purely the closest so far.

I guess my question is whats the next best thing? does the dell have issues? im going to do some research on the eizo.
 
Well, the other monitors don't fit what you're looking for in terms of connectivity.
So all you're going to be using them is for pc. Which takes 2 out of the 3 major requirements you listed out of the question. =/

For the Eizo you're going to be paying a premium. Unless you really need the extra amount of color accuracy, there's no point in paying approx. $1000 over the others. Just doesn't justify the price increase.

Also, the SX3031W-H isn't slated for release till december.
 
none of them, the new LG 30" (S-IPS, 117% gamut) will oust all of them so Id wait March/April 2008.
LG may also have 120Hz implementation in the 26" and 30" models.

You can forget about the XL30, S-PVA isnt considered suitable for video/colour crtical work and the contrast shift/black crush at the sides is still present even with LED backlights.
 
kleox64 said:
none of them, the new LG 30" (S-IPS, 117% gamut) will oust all of them so Id wait March/April 2008.
LG may also have 120Hz implementation in the 26" and 30" models.

You can forget about the XL30, S-PVA isnt considered suitable for video/colour crtical work and the contrast shift/black crush at the sides is still present even with LED backlights.
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Are the new LG 117% gamut using LED backlight? If so, the price is going to be way higher.
 
When it comes to color I'm pretty sure the new LG will dominate. But that doesn't mean it'll be better in every aspect. Honestly, I think you should get what you want now. No fun playing the waiting game. By the time March/April 08' comes, I'm sure there will be something else down the pipeline that will capture alot of people's interests. There will always be something better, so no point waiting for that.
 
They will be shown at FPD 2007. Here's the press release:
http://www.lgphilips-lcd.com/homeCo..._e.jsp?BOARD_IDX=1368&languageSec=E&kinds=IN1

Their 47" LED 120hz model they showed earlier looked sexy though:
http://www.engadget.com/2007/02/05/lg-philips-demos-47-inch-led-backlit-lcd-with-1-000-000/

Couldn't find Samsungs press release this second, but here's their showcase for FPD 2007:
http://www.digitimes.com/displays/a20071022PR203.html

Much new LED products there too, so hopefully the massproductions will bring LED displays into consumer range now! :D
 
Looks like the Gateway defect is very random and can be 'cured' if you mount the display on the stand "correctly" It has gone away for 1 owner.

If you really want this monitor I don't think the defect is a deal breaker. Of course if you can wait until Dec they may alter the manfacturing process and eliminate it completly.

I want to buy my 30" in Nov.
 
rinaldo00 said:
Looks like the Gateway defect is very random and can be 'cured' if you mount the display on the stand "correctly" It has gone away for 1 owner.
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Where did you get this information?
 
APOLLO said:
Where did you get this information?
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This was posted on pg 11 of the other thread

#204 Yesterday, 10:27 PM
DustinFrazier n00bie

Well nevermind. I took it back out of its box and hung it back on its wall mount and the defect is gone! Somehow after taking it down, boxing it up, and unpacking it again I no longer can make the screw imprint appear again. Also the backlight is now almost completely uniform with very very little bleed. I have no idea how to explain it. I am still going to return it tomorrow because I don't believe what I'm seeing. There is no way these things have just magically fixed themselves. It's unreal. I turned my sub all the way to eleven and blasted som R&B and the screw will not re-appear.

I am going to play with it the rest of tonight and see if it comes back. The crappy thing is that if it doesn't come back and I want to keep it, I couldn't. I lost the contact number for the person at Gateway corporate that scheduling the pick-up. They are coming tomorrow one way or another. Argh!

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rinaldo00 said:
This was posted on pg 11 of the other thread
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It's good news if true, but I would like to see a confirmation post from another owner with the same problem who got it fixed this way. TBH, looking at the video in the other thread and knowing its cost, I wouldn't purchase the display if there was a chance I might see this problem crop up, even if there was a solution.
 
I just replaced one of my HP 30" with a Gateway and I don't have the defect and have an extremely small amount of backlight bleed.
 
It is somewhat true APOLLO.

On my replacement, I can barely see it. When I first got it though, it was definitely visible, but not as much as the one it replaced. I didn't remove from the stand though, I just loosened one of the screws in the back closest to the defective area and retightened it. I'm still inconclusive if it totally took the defect away. I will further investigate this issue and let you guys know.
 
kleox64 said:
none of them, the new LG 30" (S-IPS, 117% gamut) will oust all of them so Id wait March/April 2008.
LG may also have 120Hz implementation in the 26" and 30" models.

You can forget about the XL30, S-PVA isnt considered suitable for video/colour crtical work and the contrast shift/black crush at the sides is still present even with LED backlights.
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Got any more information or links about that LG monitor?
 
is there any way to connect a xbox to any of these other monitors besides the gateway? maybe something you can buy seperately that will perform just as good?

Only thing holding me back is the color gamut
 
well after debating on the 30's right now, im leaning towards a 24 inch. Reason being that there is no 30 inch monitor that has everything i need, thanks for directing me to the fhd2400, that might just be the winner in my book right now.

+ i can use the extra money to upgrade to vista/ get more memory. Do any of you know if there is a way to get vista without losing everything on my xp? files and things?
 
I got my Dell 3007 WFP-HC setup last night and WOW!

I love this monitor, it's only primary downside for a lot of people is the lack of inputs, that's fine for me, I just pipe all external connections through the video card, I really can't see this as a problem for me.

Only had chance to play TF2 and Flatout2 so far and they both look fantastic at native res.
 
Frosteh said:
I got my Dell 3007 WFP-HC setup last night and WOW!

I love this monitor, it's only primary downside for a lot of people is the lack of inputs, that's fine for me, I just pipe all external connections through the video card, I really can't see this as a problem for me.

Only had chance to play TF2 and Flatout2 so far and they both look fantastic at native res.
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Are you doing this, or are you planning to to?

I also got the 3007WFP-HC and the only thing I would like to do is bring TV to my setup, and was wondering if buying a capture card of some sort and displaying it through my GTX would be good enough.

Please give me some more detail on what results you are getting. Thanks
 
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