$199 PC Blu-ray Player Announced

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According to GearLog, Philips and Lite-On Digital Solutions have announced a Blu-ray drive for the PC that allows users to play Blu-ray discs on their PCs. According to the marketing manager at PLDS, you will also be able to use the drive as a playback device on your HDTV by connecting your PC to your TV using a HDMI cable. Blu-ray HTPC anyone?

Spec-wise, the drive reads either single- or dual-layer BD-R/RE/ROM discs at up to 4X speeds, while single- or double-layer DVD±R or DVD-ROM discs can be read at 12X and single or double-layer DVD±RW discs can be read at 8X speeds. DVD, Single-layer or Double-layer media at 4X maximum. Single Layer DVD ±R or DVD-ROM can be read at 12X max, while Double Layer DVD±R and Single Layer DVD±RW can be read at 8X max. CD-R/RW/ROM has a maximum read speed of 32X.
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I'd rather have the LG that does Blu-ray, HD DVD, and burnes DVDs for $100 more.
 
i rather pay 30 bucks for a DVD DL burner and call it a day

fuck paying 100+ for a damn cd/dvd/hddvd/blueray rom
 
Your comment wasn't really appropriate. If you don't care about watching HD movies, of course you can screw paying the money and get a cheap DVD burner, but there are people who DO wanna watch HD movies, and for that, unfortunately, you need an HD-DVD/BD player.
 
$199 Blu-Ray player for your computer?

I really don't give two craps, unless its 20-30$. Why? Because there are two formats out there. Price doesn't mean shit till a format win's. Im not going to buy into a format with the chance I pick the looser.
 
necrosis said:
$199 Blu-Ray player for your computer?

I really don't give two craps, unless its 20-30$. Why? Because there are two formats out there. Price doesn't mean shit till a format win's. Im not going to buy into a format with the chance I pick the looser.
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That's my thinking too. $199 is simply too much to spend on something that has a very good possibility of being paperweight in the next few months. Besides, Newegg has the Xbox360 external HD-DVD drive for $169 that works natively under Vista and with some driver tweaking for XP.
 
I'd be happy just to get DL DVD blanks for less than $10 a piece! Why are these things still so overpriced after being out for what, 3 years now?
 
TechLarry said:
I'd be happy just to get DL DVD blanks for less than $10 a piece! Why are these things still so overpriced after being out for what, 3 years now?
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I just wish to go on record as stating that the dual layer DVD-ROM disc is UNRELIABLE for what it was designed.

The reason I know this is that I have attempted on several occasions to back up OTA tv shows to DL DVD-ROM for archive only later to discover that only HALF the disc is readable. I have searched all the forums and websites that promise data recovery from dual layer DVDs and have found NONE that work. This leads me to conclude that while the dual layer DVD format has been overhyped and stating that you can store up to 8.5 GB of data per DVD what they fail to tell you is that even though your recording software (NERO) says that cd burning was 100% successful only HALF the data is readable when you attempt to later read the DVD.

This is highly unacceptable and I just thought that you guys should know before you spend 1 CENT on dual layer dvd media.

Also you should note that the media used was DL DVD+R from a company called MATRIX? so I am wanting to know if any of you have attempted using dual layer -R media if you could maybe let me know your experience as I am definitely soured on dual layer DVD media at this time.

Question: I wonder what HD or Blu-Ray DVD media will be like when they finally release a burner? I would hate to have to burn 25 GB or 50 GB respectively only to find out that the media is HALF readable by the recorder that created it !!!!!
 
albert6719 said:
I just wish to go on record as stating that the dual layer DVD-ROM disc is UNRELIABLE for what it was designed.

The reason I know this is that I have attempted on several occasions to back up OTA tv shows to DL DVD-ROM for archive only later to discover that only HALF the disc is readable. I have searched all the forums and websites that promise data recovery from dual layer DVDs and have found NONE that work. This leads me to conclude that while the dual layer DVD format has been overhyped and stating that you can store up to 8.5 GB of data per DVD what they fail to tell you is that even though your recording software (NERO) says that cd burning was 100% successful only HALF the data is readable when you attempt to later read the DVD.

This is highly unacceptable and I just thought that you guys should know before you spend 1 CENT on dual layer dvd media.

Also you should note that the media used was DL DVD+R from a company called MATRIX? so I am wanting to know if any of you have attempted using dual layer -R media if you could maybe let me know your experience as I am definitely soured on dual layer DVD media at this time.

Question: I wonder what HD or Blu-Ray DVD media will be like when they finally release a burner? I would hate to have to burn 25 GB or 50 GB respectively only to find out that the media is HALF readable by the recorder that created it !!!!!
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I think you need to get either a working burner or media that doesn't suck ass. I've burnt hundreds of DL dvds, the rate of error after burning is more like 5%. Perhaps you should also check the "verify disc" box, since the ENTIRE point of that box is to confirm a working disc. The 100% complete has nothing to do with readability, it means that the device has completed all the motions required to produce the disc.
 
necrosis said:
$199 Blu-Ray player for your computer?
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I pretty much feel the same way. I'm not shelling out significantly higher prices for PC or standalone players until the dualing formats shake out.

It's too bad really because i'm much more willing to buy a HD burner because it's a lot more useful to me than a ROM.
 
albert6719 said:
Question: I wonder what HD or Blu-Ray DVD media will be like when they finally release a burner? I would hate to have to burn 25 GB or 50 GB respectively only to find out that the media is HALF readable by the recorder that created it !!!!!
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There are Blue-ray burners out there. Problem is the media is so damn expensive.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817172023

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106037

Slowly but surely they are getting cheaper but it is a risk if one format looses.
 
I just wish to go on record as stating that the dual layer DVD-ROM disc is UNRELIABLE for what it was designed.
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I'd also like to go on record and say that this is complete BS. Unreliable? Please go and check your DVD collection if you have one, almost every single disc you buy is a dual layer DVD-ROM and with over 500 discs, i didnt encounter 1 i dont think that wasnt playable.
 
Anyone know where I can find an HD-DVD burner? I can't seem to find any units. I know Toshiba makes one but I can't find one to purchase in the retail channel.
 
Yeah, get me the burner at the same price and you'd have market dominance.

The war won't be won in the home, it'll be won by whomever can come up with a reasonable method for authoring the media.
 
Lothar the Lotharian said:
Yeah, get me the burner at the same price and you'd have market dominance.

The war won't be won in the home, it'll be won by whomever can come up with a reasonable method for authoring the media.
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WRONG!

This is gonna be won by the Walmart demographic. HDDVD has a good claw in with their limited $99 A-2.

Just last night I saw a tv add from walmart touting thier "affordable" high-def sony bravia tvs. This makes me think Walmart is about to start pushing HD on the mainstream. They are the very best at pushing mass-market goods. :cool:

We should know who winner of the HD wars is by Q2 08.

I feel you're pain on the lack of media authoring, but secretly the MPAA does not want you to be able to author anything.
 
It's nice and all for movie pirates to have a bluray reader in the pc ;) , but of no interest to me unfortunatly.

I can't see any difference beyond dvd, so hd movies are wasted on me. Plus There's no way I'm paying $40+ for hd/bluray movies. I always wait until the ~$30 new release dvds come down to $15 as it is.

All I want is a sub $80 bluray burner and ~$50 spindles of 50pc media to replace my backup dvds with as bluray has the bigger capacity at the moment, so even though I hate sony, they're the ones that just happen to have the better thing for me. The other stuff is not important between formats to me. :) If you want just a reader I believe a non computer one (stand alone) is what you should look at getting anyway.

So maybe in 5 years when I upgrade my CRT tv to a flat panel I'll then look for the "high def" movies and players. :)
 
Azhar said:
$199 is simply too much to spend on something that has a very good possibility of being paperweight in the next few months.
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There is zero chance of that happening. If you really think so, you dont have a clue. Sorry to be so blunt.
 
JOESKURTU said:
WRONG!
I feel you're pain on the lack of media authoring, but secretly the MPAA does not want you to be able to author anything.
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I don't think it's a secret on that one. Really, when the +/- battle was going on, event videographers were giving away DVD players to guarantee compatibility, so it is a factor.

The entire independent video industry is about to turn on its head and if HD-DVD doesn't get a drive to market quick at a better price than blu-ray, they'll lose. Last year, the big thing was "Ok, we have cameras, and finally we can burn our product out via Blu-Ray!"

This year, it seems like it'll be more of the same. Sad part is, both sides were promising these awesome tools to author new media experiences, and the best that has come to market is just more of the same, just higher resolution.

Even Adobe's Encore DVD package doesn't have HD-DVD support yet.
 
I can't see any difference beyond dvd, so hd movies are wasted on me.
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Do you have some kind of visual impairment? I've always thought that the difference between dvd and hd was pretty stunning.
 
$199 is a start, lets see some sub 100 numbers.
 
fallguy said:
There is zero chance of that happening. If you really think so, you dont have a clue. Sorry to be so blunt.
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And I'm sorry to counter your opinion, but it's a friggin ROM drive. The moment burners come out affordable, it's coming out of my box to be replaced by the burner. I would have a $199 piece of paperweight. I wasn't referring to format war, but the overall aspect of the hardware.
 
HD DVD did this over a year ago(and cheaper now) .. a lil thing called the 360 drive. To the guy who can't see the difference between HD and SD needs to throw out that 15" crt or get new glasses. Anyways the only way a $199 blu ray PC drive would interest me is a universal drive, especially the way the format war has been swinging
 
goatmonster said:
Do you have some kind of visual impairment? I've always thought that the difference between dvd and hd was pretty stunning.
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Yep, I should wear my glasses when watching tv, but I can still just get away with not doing so, so to me dvd is fine. I can notice the difference of dvd over vhs to be sure, but yea, dvd is still fine to me.

Plus the resolutions on "hd" tv panels really arn't that crash hot either for the size of the things. Jaggies and blocks everywhere is all I really notice, and I've seen plenty of them in various stores showcasing themselves to see it every time. LCD are the best looking to me overall though, much clearer, but still noticeable. Another reason I do take my glasses off, instant anti-aliasing. :D

So yea, for me, I'm still good on dvd until they either bring out the next format, or more than likely, the "hd" stuff comes to the availability and price points that current dvd is at. That should be a biggie for everyone and hopefully get some format to be chosen as the more dominant one instead of the current situation of where they're comfortable that people will buy anything because it's presented to them, but sadly people are consumer whores these days. Ah well.
 
ide rather hook a pc to my tv and have a video and music library on demand.
 
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