16" IPS Laptop Panel?

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So I recently purchased an ASus G60JX laptop, and I like it very much except for one problem: the display really kinda sucks in gaming. It's got a pretty narrow sweet spot, and even then the viewing angle is mediocre, and the color display (esp for an LED panel) is pretty bad, colors easily get washed out and blur together.

I also recently got an iPad, and this has made me officially love IPS panels, as the display on it is just ball-bustingly great. So I'm thinking of replacing the panel in my laptop with a sweet IPS panel. Can anyone recommend a good 16" IPS (pref LED) laptop panel? Do you happen to know (longshot) if it's pin-compatible with the display in a G60JX? Or does anyone at least know the position/type of ribbon connector used for the OEM display of a G60JX?

Or does anyone have any experience replacing the panel in their G60JX? Recommendations for good non-IPS panels that drastically improve color/viewing angles?

Thanks!
 
Actually there are very few IPS laptop panels - most were made in the 15" 4:3 form factor (in SXGA+, UXGA and QXGA), a few models in 12.1" 4:3 and 16:10 and one 13.3" 16:10.
All the 4:3 models are discontinued.
Unless the laptop panel is 15.6" and not 16.0" you're out of luck. LG has planned the 15.6" panel, and it might be available now - i would imagine it being offered in the latest HPs "DreamColor" notebook, if selected as an upgrade.

The replacement laptop panel you want must be LED edgelit since there's no inverter available for the laptop in the first place, if you need to drive a CCFL-lit screen.

For LED backlit laptop panels, a 40 pin connector is typically used - usually the pin layout is common from panel to panel, but some laptop manufacturers may be able to order versions with different pinouts. Dell have been known to do this.
See the standard pinout together with connector manufacturer and type at page 14: http://www.eurocomposant.fr/fr/content/download/1432/19981/file/HV133WX1_data.pdf
 
tk-don said:
Actually there are very few IPS laptop panels - most were made in the 15" 4:3 form factor (in SXGA+, UXGA and QXGA), a few models in 12.1" 4:3 and 16:10 and one 13.3" 16:10.
All the 4:3 models are discontinued.
Unless the laptop panel is 15.6" and not 16.0" you're out of luck. LG has planned the 15.6" panel, and it might be available now - i would imagine it being offered in the latest HPs "DreamColor" notebook, if selected as an upgrade.
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That would explain why I had such trouble finding IPS panels for laptops in general.

What about PVA? That's still leaps and bounds better than TN, right? Are there any 16" PVA panels available?

And yeah, it has to be 16", as that's the form factor of my laptop, not 15.6". In theory I could possibly fudge 15.6" somehow by installing a shim or some filler, but that comes with a whole host of problems, and I would much rather stick to the existing form factor if possible so I don't have to worry about a loose panel or a ghetto-rigged install.
 
Better than TN yes.
Never heard of a 16" PVA. The only one i know that exists is a 12.1" used in the Lenovo thinkpad X200t tablet. Ironically, it apparently is also be the only manufacturer using the 12.1" 16:10 panel i mentioned above - so it's a bit of a panel lottery.
There ar only two manufacturers of IPS panels - LG and Hydis (which call them AFFS). The latter is a much smaller company, so they'd probably be glad to know if someone has any interest in 16" laptop panels.

Most laptops these days come with TN panels with a best case 200:1 contrast ratio. Combined with narrow viewing angles and it sounds like what you describe. I can only find one right now - Samsung LTN160AT03, but is 300:1 CR (and probably 200:1 in real life). :(
 
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Most laptops these days come with TN panels with a best case 200:1 contrast ratio. Combined with narrow viewing angles and it sounds like what you describe. I can only find one right now - Samsung LTN160AT03, but is 300:1 CR (and probably 200:1 in real life). :(
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Yeah, even a TN panel with a higher contrast ratio and viewing angle would be something I'd consider, but without a direct recommendation for a high-quality 16" TN panel that's demonstrably better than the one I have, I'm pretty hesitant to spend the 100-200 bucks necessary to get a panel that might be nearly identical to what I've got already.
 
tk-don said:
There ar only two manufacturers of IPS panels - LG and Hydis (which call them AFFS). The latter is a much smaller company, so they'd probably be glad to know if someone has any interest in 16" laptop panels.
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Maybe the OP should email Hydis? I think its unlikely that they will make a 16" though, but possiblly a 15.6 for an upgraded screen option for thinkpads. Quite a few members on NBR have swapped their stock x200 screens for an AFFS screen. I'm planning to do the same within the next two months as the x200 screen is pretty crappy IMO.
 
The high end HP laptops have 15.6 IPS screens as an option (+$400). HP EliteBook DreamColor.
 
The main issue is power consumption and LCD wastes considerable amount of energy.

It is why manufactures are still using barebone TN panels, which are significantly inferior to the desktop TN modes.
 
I would probably hesitate about choosing that as the main reason - the IPS matrix of a 15" UXGA consumes 3.1W (N150U3-L06), 4.1W for QXGA (IAQX10S/N), while it's 1.45W for a 15" TN UXGA (LP150U03). Approximately double the power consumption for IPS, but is ~1.6W really that important with a processor and GPU with 35W+ TDP each? The backlight also requires more power for IPS panels, but with "modern" IPS/AFFS screens with a much increased transmittance, there's no difference. :)

If i produced and sold more than 1 million notebooks and IPS panels costed $5 more a piece compared to TN, i would lose $5 million. I haven't actually heard many complain about 200:1 TN panels at all - in fact it seems like it is the same crap companies install on their "ipad killers" - so it must somehow mean that the customers aren't really bothered by it.
The other main reason i could be scared by is source reliability. With only one source of IPS panels, it means a halt in sales and production, if the source can't keep up with the demand. Dell, HP, Lenovo have multiple sources for screens, along with keyboards, harddrives, DVD-drives, etc.

BTW. Got to think of the HP HDX16 and Dell XPS16. Both are WUXGA though - the former is CCFL-lit, while the last has RGB LEDs. Not sure if the RGB panel can be fitted, or if the connector is completely different (to allow for more LEDs, i pressume). I couldn't find the manufacturer part number for any of the panels they use - and the color gamut of the latter might probably be too much to handle anyway.
But the contrast ratio is about 500:1. Just a thought.
 
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The new IPS panels and c-PVA from Samsung do have higher transmittance value. Hopefully few other companies will license IPS tech or the evolved form for mass production.

PS: for laptops, every last drop matters tbh. Also, laptops are designed to be viewed by single user, so it can be argued that wider viewing angle isn't necessary (I personally disagree). It can be also argued that most people don't use laptops where image quality matter (again, I personally disagree).
 
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