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I want to make fun of this guy for being so nervous but I know for a fact I would be acting the same way.
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I wanted a Tesla a while back, was really torn for a few months prior to the lease end, but ended up trading my lease in for another equally priced sports car instead (manual of course). Reasoning? I'm not entirely sure how practical these are around the Boston area, mainly being able to find charging stations in the area (from Boston to NY, then up to Maine, RI, etc.). The main things keeping me from an electric car is abundance of filling stations...and that constant nagging voice in the back of my head saying "you can't fill up on gas...hey...stop looking at that gas station asshole, it won't do anything for you". Something convenient about being able to fill a tank of gas in about 1-2 minutes (I'm unbelievably impatient).
Personally I can't justify the price yet. The range is far enough for me with a Tesla, but more affordable electric cars have the range of a thrown tomato and border on useless.
Plus I work at an oil refinery currently. Fossil fuels are part of my employment (not that oil doesn't have far more uses)
What is up with that 30 fucking whatever inch GPS screen, holy hell.
"It's weird that I was freaking out before the car did."
Yeah, not so weird. He looks like the type that "freaks out" a lot.
It's not the price that really gets me, but the looming fact that I can't just "quickly top up" bothers me to no end. I just can't get over it, and I'm not sure why. I agree with you that the other cars that are much more reasonable, just don't touch the Tesla in range, and so they're entirely out of sight/out of mind for me. I'd rather get 20-25 mpg on the highway, while being able to gun it on back roads, and then fill-up promptly, than drive an anemic vehicle that takes all night to top up.
And this is the real problem with electric cars.
90% of my driving is < 20 miles a day which most electric cars would handle.
The problem is the other 10%, which is usually trips of 80 to 150 miles.
Anything short of a Tesla's range just doesn't work, and the Tesla's price doesn't work for me.
Then there is the occasional long road trip, that could be 500-2000 miles. No fun having to stop and sit around while you charge the car a several times a day.
I prefer going in the other direction, having a car with a very long range. My Hybrid Camry has a range of 600+ miles (40mpg x 15 gallons) on a single tank of gas, even in the city. Lets me go weeks without pulling into a gas station.
The screen is one of the best points. Being a big tech guy (programmer career wise), it gives me goosebumps to click around and see what I can discover. The cabin is laid out beautifully too, so in person, the screen just fits so well (I'm a wannabee designer at heart too, well, at least web/app wise).
Strange, I find that to be one of the most irritating things about the car. Not that I have an issue with displays or touch screens in a vehicle in general, but I hate not being able to just reach over, grab a control, and make an adjustment without looking to make sure my hand is exactly in the right spot.
Honda for example decided to start going with touch buttons just to adjust the radio volume... as a result when shopping around lately for a vehicle, I automatically crossed them off my list. Same thing goes for climate controls, I just want to adjust it without looking, speaking, going through a menu, etc. I'm also a tech guy, but I prefer simple usability over "wow, this is neat!".
Strange, I find that to be one of the most irritating things about the car. Not that I have an issue with displays or touch screens in a vehicle in general, but I hate not being able to just reach over, grab a control, and make an adjustment without looking to make sure my hand is exactly in the right spot.
Honda for example decided to start going with touch buttons just to adjust the radio volume... as a result when shopping around lately for a vehicle, I automatically crossed them off my list. Same thing goes for climate controls, I just want to adjust it without looking, speaking, going through a menu, etc. I'm also a tech guy, but I prefer simple usability over "wow, this is neat!".
Just means you are a control freak with heavy OCD tendencies. Are you the guy who still likes manual roll down windows because control with electric isn't granular enough or wants it to go faster? Isn't a bad thing...just makes your life more difficult than you need it to be.
My Fusion has touch buttons for everything, and I'm able to adjust stuff without looking. Plus, each "button" has a different feel.
So... how do you feel a touch button without touching it?
Haptic feedback mechanism. Works wonders.
Also I don't think anyone needs a giant screen...but it sure is badass that it's there.
So... how do you feel a touch button without touching it?
Haptic feedback mechanism. Works wonders.
Also I don't think anyone needs a giant screen...but it sure is badass that it's there.
Some are sunk in. Plus, I'm just able to learn where buttons are? Its not that hard? I'll admit, I laugh a bit when people say they can't figure out where buttons are without physical buttons
It doesn't have haptic feedback. Just different sunk in buttons and what not.
Some are sunk in. Plus, I'm just able to learn where buttons are? Its not that hard? I'll admit, I laugh a bit when people say they can't figure out where buttons are without physical buttons
It doesn't have haptic feedback. Just different sunk in buttons and what not.
What is up with that 30 fucking whatever inch GPS screen, holy hell.
Why? So you don't hit the wrong button because your hand was a quarter inch to the side.
Honestly doesn't seem that hard to guesstimate where a button is when staring at the road.
Still not a touch screen, still has giant gaps between everything, and appears to have a giant physical volume knob in the center.
I wasn't talking about a ford fusion, I wasn't talking about a panel with huge spaced out buttons, this thread is about the tesla model s and I was commenting on the touch screen.
You directly quoted OEM's post about the spacing of his Ford Fusion's buttons...thought we were still on that topic. My bad.
Call it what you will, I remember it being a pretty pleasant experience (about as pleasant as a car console can be I suppose).
Off-topic, but I think I recall we talked about Porsche's a while back OEM? At least in private chat. Honestly, my favorite system so far is in the newer Porsche's, where buttons seemingly dominate every part of the console. Being split 50/50 between preferring analog/touch, the Porsche has a good middle ground I'd say (not menu wise, that's another story), where buttons easily fall to hand, yet the screen is small enough to where you don't need to stretch out your arm.
I had assumed his ford fusion had a giant touch screen for everything in the center console(based off of his post, since he brought it up), like the tesla that the thread is about. Turns out it doesn't.
That's pretty badass, don't read too much about hybrids these days, but I do know that the Camry (especially the latest version) looks fantastic (inside and out).
I see people complaining about this as a growing trend. Why do you care so much? Aggravated he's doing something you wish you could be doing?
If thats what it is, do something to make that happen for yourself, don't be mad at him and try to make fun of how he looks and be passive aggressive about it by saying "other men" and not singling him out.
Oh, I'd love to see a diesel/electric hybrid. Why those aren't being made is a mystery to me.
What is up with that 30 fucking whatever inch GPS screen, holy hell.