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This is one of the coolest things you will see all day.
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I'm not really sure it taught itself anything so much as it just repeated set moves until it passed without error. It certainly didn't learn to avoid identical objects later in the map, it just changed how it moved at that point and died again from the same mob type it ran into.
I like how he threw in there that we all evolved from single cell organisms.
LOL.
I like how he threw in there that we all evolved from single cell organisms.
LOL.
Think about it this way.
1. Matter somehow just comes into existence all by itself from nothing.
2. Somehow that matter organizes itself into such a way that it creates planets, stars, etc.
3. Somehow on what is now knows as Earth, the matter somehow turns into different elements.
4. Somehow it does so in such a perfect way, that Earth can now support carbon based life.
5. Then some matter on Earth somehow turns into amino acids.
6. Then some of those amino acids arrange into such a way that life spontaneously begins.
7. Not only does one organism come to life, but it does it in such a way that it can reproduce.
8. By the whole neural network explanation, this would be impossible to happen on the very first try
9. Taking that into account, a new organism would have to come into existence and by some unfathomable luck be able to reproduce since the "knowledge" of the previous organism would not be passed on.
10. How many times would this have to happen before an organism would actually be able to reproduce the very first try?
11. Now, how many trial/error scenarios would it take for a single cell organism to "evolve" into anything more complex?
The idea is just laughable.
I am actually really smart and I got wisdom from the bibble:
1. god somehow just comes into existence all by itself from nothing.
2. god creates everything
3. god impresses a few bronze age goat herders with magic tricks
4. god suddenly vanishes and has stopped doing his miracles for two thousand years
The idea is just brilliant.
It's "evolutionary programming" there is a goal, in this case the fitness value which is based upon how far it got with some time modifier. Each generation has a series of tries, from those it takes a certain amount that got the highest fitness score, and then from those it tried different things, and again did those a certain amount of times to get a new set of fitness scores to choose for the next generation.
So yeah, calling it learning might be a stretch, it's a brute force type of computation, that uses the best results to grow from and become "better" (as a function of fitness).
I like how he threw in there that we all evolved from single cell organisms.
LOL.
Think about it this way.
1. Matter somehow just comes into existence all by itself from nothing.
2. Somehow that matter organizes itself into such a way that it creates planets, stars, etc.
3. Somehow on what is now knows as Earth, the matter somehow turns into different elements.
4. Somehow it does so in such a perfect way, that Earth can now support carbon based life.
5. Then some matter on Earth somehow turns into amino acids.
6. Then some of those amino acids arrange into such a way that life spontaneously begins.
7. Not only does one organism come to life, but it does it in such a way that it can reproduce.
8. By the whole neural network explanation, this would be impossible to happen on the very first try
9. Taking that into account, a new organism would have to come into existence and by some unfathomable luck be able to reproduce since the "knowledge" of the previous organism would not be passed on.
10. How many times would this have to happen before an organism would actually be able to reproduce the very first try?
11. Now, how many trial/error scenarios would it take for a single cell organism to "evolve" into anything more complex?
The idea is just laughable.
What is your counter? That a god created everything? If that is it, what created the god? What's more plausible, that a supreme being just "poofed" into existence or that a single cell organism evolved over billions of years?
So yeah, calling it learning might be a stretch, it's a brute force type of computation, that uses the best results to grow from and become "better" (as a function of fitness).
This is in no way new, just using this to do Mario is new. The program actually breaks it down quite simplistically too, each enemy is the same as "bad", doesn't even take into account if enemies fire projectiles, but there is a pattern to the game, and as such a technique like this does work. Jump too soon, the fireballs get you, jump too late you run into the flower, just right... you jump over the fireballs and get further (more fitness) so that string of moves will move on while the other two don't.
The idea is just laughable.
Actually it does. Any thing that can happen, will happen, if given enough time. If you give me a few 100 Billion years (assuming I could actually survive that long), I will eventually walk right through the wall I am sitting next to and neither me nor the wall will have any damage.So just adding more and more time makes everything possible?
We ARE still seeing new organisms come into existence.If that were the case we would still be seeing NEW organisms come into existence.
Actually, it is statically improbable, not statically impossible. Two different things.The level of complexity in even the simplest of organisms is a statistical impossibility for it to just happen by chance, not to mention then level of complexity in everything lining up just right at a single point in time for something as impossible as carbon based life coming into existence all by itself.
What is your counter? That a god created everything? If that is it, what created the god? What's more plausible, that a supreme being just "poofed" into existence or that a single cell organism evolved over billions of years?
This is one of the coolest things you will see all day.
I like how he threw in there that we all evolved from single cell organisms.
LOL.
Think about it this way.
1. Matter somehow just comes into existence all by itself from nothing.
2. Somehow that matter organizes itself into such a way that it creates planets, stars, etc.
3. Somehow on what is now knows as Earth, the matter somehow turns into different elements.
4. Somehow it does so in such a perfect way, that Earth can now support carbon based life.
5. Then some matter on Earth somehow turns into amino acids.
6. Then some of those amino acids arrange into such a way that life spontaneously begins.
7. Not only does one organism come to life, but it does it in such a way that it can reproduce.
8. By the whole neural network explanation, this would be impossible to happen on the very first try
9. Taking that into account, a new organism would have to come into existence and by some unfathomable luck be able to reproduce since the "knowledge" of the previous organism would not be passed on.
10. How many times would this have to happen before an organism would actually be able to reproduce the very first try?
11. Now, how many trial/error scenarios would it take for a single cell organism to "evolve" into anything more complex?
The idea is just laughable.
So just adding more and more time makes everything possible?
If that were the case we would still be seeing NEW organisms come into existence.
The level of complexity in even the simplest of organisms is a statistical impossibility for it to just happen by chance, not to mention then level of complexity in everything lining up just right at a single point in time for something as impossible as carbon based life coming into existence all by itself.
The problem with this method is that it resets everything it learns for each new map instead of carrying over what it 'learned' (enemies = bad = don't touch) into any further maps. It's brute force all the way.
Do you know why there are new flu vaccines offered every, single year?So just adding more and more time makes everything possible?
If that were the case we would still be seeing NEW organisms come into existence.
I like how he threw in there that we all evolved from single cell organisms.
LOL.
Think about it this way.
1. Matter somehow just comes into existence all by itself from nothing.
2. Somehow that matter organizes itself into such a way that it creates planets, stars, etc.
3. Somehow on what is now knows as Earth, the matter somehow turns into different elements.
4. Somehow it does so in such a perfect way, that Earth can now support carbon based life.
5. Then some matter on Earth somehow turns into amino acids.
6. Then some of those amino acids arrange into such a way that life spontaneously begins.
7. Not only does one organism come to life, but it does it in such a way that it can reproduce.
8. By the whole neural network explanation, this would be impossible to happen on the very first try
9. Taking that into account, a new organism would have to come into existence and by some unfathomable luck be able to reproduce since the "knowledge" of the previous organism would not be passed on.
10. How many times would this have to happen before an organism would actually be able to reproduce the very first try?
11. Now, how many trial/error scenarios would it take for a single cell organism to "evolve" into anything more complex?
The idea is just laughable.
It's hilarious seeing it took only a few posts to bring up the bible up in the conversation...
Shouldn't be long before a holy war starts in here
Well... there we go.
Lets hope AI will be nice to us.
Don't you mean, great this is how the robots will learn to KILL US ALL!!!