Gaming at 5K : GTX TITAN Z Review

DGLee

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(Hi. I'm a newbie on this forum. Glad to be here. Though I'm not a fluent English speaker(or writer, or whatever - actually I'm Korean), hope that I could get to know all of you & get familiar with this forum.)

About a couple of month ago, I was wondering what's 5K and why it was mentioned in official GTX TITAN Z presentation at GTC 2014. In the presentation I'd watched, the GTX TITAN Z is described as "the first graphics card that is 5K-Ready". From this, I planned to test several highest-end graphics cards at super-high resolution above QHD. First, I designed the test scenarios as follow:


- 2560 x 1600 (4 million pixels)
- 5760 x 1080 (3-way surround of 1920 x 1080, 6 million pixels)
- 4096 x 2160 (4K, 8 million pixels)
- 7680 x 1600 (3-way surround of 2560 x 1600, 12 million pixels)
- 5120 x 2700 (5K, 14 million pixels)


For the test, all games are to be set at their highest graphics quality option except anti-aliasing : Speaking anti-aliasing, I seperate all test scenarios (except for Bioshock : Infinite) into two groups - one for without AA, another for with 4x AA. For Bioshock, I assumed its DX11+DDOF preset as "with 4x AA" as well as DX11 preset as "without AA" since the official benchmark tool didn't offer such options.


And to adopt super-high resolutions in ordinary display(s), I used Eyefinity and NV Surround as well as "User Defined Resolution" in NV Control Panel (for NVIDIA, of course). Specifically as follow:


- 2560 x 1600 : Nothing special
- 5760 x 1080 : AMD - Eyefinity / NVIDIA - NV Surround (both 3 x 1920x1080)
- 4096 x 2160 : AMD - Eyefinity (2 x 2048x2160) / NVIDIA - NVCP User Define (single display, upscaled)
- 7680 x 1600 : AMD - Eyefinity / NVIDIA - NV Surround (both 3 x 2560x1600)
- 5120 x 2700 : AMD - Eyefinity (4 x 2560x1350) / NVIDIA - NVCP User Define (single display, upscaled)
(for detailed info, see Ch2 and Ch3 of this article : http://iyd.kr/649)


For 4K and 5K, AMD and NVIDIA are not perfectly variable-controlled. (at least the # of display used are different!) With keeping it in mind, I'm going to analyze how this -AMD's to control multiple display while NVIDIA's to control just a single display- affect the overall performance at the end of the article.


Well, here's the system setting.


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Here's the performance summaries. Note that the "Raw Data" graphs actually analyze nothing but show accumulated framerates, and I guess everybody knows that just summing up framerates from all different games are virtually incomparable. I intentionally put these graphs for two reasons : one is to emphasize that, for a single data set, there is no such "only way" to analyze it. Two is to show that, by comparing "Raw Data" graphs and "Normalized" graphs, how an "AMD/NVIDIA-freidnly" game affects and actually distorts the results. (For example, Batman -a true friend of NVIDIA graphics card- gives a massive plus to NVIDIA graphics cards so that NVIDIA keeps relatively-higher rank than AMD in Raw Data graphs, while we can see the contrary in Normalized graphs : AMD yields small but many surpluses from many other game, and such "small but many" surpluses eventually exceeds the amount AMD loses from Batman.)
(Full test results are here : http://iyd.kr/649)


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As a summary, I think we all agree these three conclusions:
- Gaming at 5K isn't really tangible. After all, framerates from highest graphics solution are terrible.
- (Despite above,) a pair of 290X offers best relative performance at super-high resolutions.
- (Despite above two,) the GTX TITAN Z is the only single graphics card that is "capable" of 5K gaming.


Well, the test is over. Thanks for reading!
(Just because of my poor English ability, it takes a couple of more days to translate the whole article into English. Hope that I could do this faster, so that I could provide a better understanding.)
 
wait so you have a titan-z? I can't see the images because of the filter at work
 
Thank you for coming over to Hardocp and posting your results. Welcome to our community and I hope your time here is pleasant. I have been poking around your website before and really enjoyed your article entitled, "Best CPU for Gamers". I found it and your 5K gaming article to be informative and interesting to read.

:)
 
Review outta left field... looks legit?

You can preorder the Zotac TitanZ cards from SabrePC via Amazon and there is a preorder on Ebay for the EVGA cards. So I'd say that the review is legitimate as a reviewer would receive the cards well in advance. Plus his Best CPU for Gamers roundup article was very good.
 
You can preorder the Zotac TitanZ cards from SabrePC via Amazon and there is a preorder on Ebay for the EVGA cards. So I'd say that the review is legitimate as a reviewer would receive the cards well in advance. Plus his Best CPU for Gamers roundup article was very good.

Ok, sounds good. Seen too many things that resemble this end up being vapor/scams etc. I will have to check out his reviews.
 
Thats an impressive analysis, didn't know Titan z was even out yet. I'm pretty surprised how well the 290x and 290 in crossfire fare against the high end Nvidia offerings especially in the massive resolutions you used.

Bravo!!!
 
DGLee has been posting tests for a few months now on other forums (anandtech and semiaacurate I've seen them on). He's apparently a Korean reviewer. Seems small time, but legit.

To OP: Did you actually have a Titan-Z? Or did you emulate one buy adjusting clocks on 2x Titan Blacks?
 
This is so epic, I'm always always looking for 5760x1080p benchmarks. This is so epic thank you, gonna bookmark this thread
 
ugh, and I just got my 780ti last december. This chart has reduced my penis size a couple inches.
 
dafuq are these metrics. give average and minimum framerate, thx.
 
no 295X2 in review ?

295X2 = 290X CF more or less

They start to differ for overclocks (and only if 295X2 vs 290X CF on air -- 295X2 vs 290X CF WC gets destroyed), but it's safe to assume these benchmarks are @ stock clocks for all cards
 
Summary: $1000 2x780 less than 10% behind $3000 Titan Z for gaming. Same story for 2x290 except $800-$900.
 
Love how those R9 290's stack up against the big boys :)

The 290 (non X) and 780 (non ti) are the best values in the high end. They give up very very little to their more expensive brethren. Of course the 290 in Crossfire trumps them all. For the money you save from 2 of "The Big Boys" you can afford custom cooling them and increasing bang/$. But if you have a brand preference towards nVidia the 780 isn't a bad deal. Especially single card if you are willing to O/C.

I predict it's only going to get better. I see 290's @ ~$300 and 290X's @ ~$400 before very long. The Powercolor R9 290 with reference cooler was already $300AR (no typo there) this last weekend on Newegg.
 
Wait? Almost 400fps at 5k is terrible? And I find these numbers to be strange as well. PC Perspective said they could get around 60fps in a 295X2 @ 4k resolutions.
 
Wait? Almost 400fps at 5k is terrible? And I find these numbers to be strange as well. PC Perspective said they could get around 60fps in a 295X2 @ 4k resolutions.

The reviewer added the total amount of frames from all games tested, not the fps from a single game.

I think it's a pretty cool way to minimize games that are vendor specific. Adding the total framerate results allows us to see which card(s) are faster across all games.
 
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