Playing Video Games Leads To Better Jobs For Girls

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I don't know if this is true or not but I want to believe it and, in the end, I guess that's all that really matters. :D

The tech gap begins at home, where boys get their first computers and video game consoles at a younger age than girls and are more likely to play with toys that build spatial reasoning skills, like Lego. It continues in schools, where female students voice less confidence in math, science, and computing, and it persists in the corporate world.
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It's a good article, but the problem is that people simply can't predict how a particular set of fields like STEM will look in the ten to twenty years it takes for children to grow up and get educated. Jobs might be harder to find because of market saturation or societal changes. Of course, that's no excuse not to encourage kids (girls and boys) to explore and have fun in ways that interest them. Someday, Dekoth's daughter might be blowing up her dad with a rocket launcher. :p
 
If she's an 8 out of 10 and knows her way around tech and gaming, I'd hire her in a heartbeat. Anyone who wouldn't is either lying or just plain ignorant....
 
I think its time we marched for equal rights guys! We don't get treated like this!




(out tits get us no where!) ;)
 
Ski said:
If she's an 8 out of 10 and knows her way around tech and gaming, I'd hire her in a heartbeat. Anyone who wouldn't is either lying or just plain ignorant....
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Don't forget she has to be single, have no kids, and enjoy spontaneous sex in public places
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Ok in all seriousness I do agree with the comment. Being attractive and a bit geeky is always a winner as I am my own perfect example! Can't tell you how many house calls for PC repair turned into lustful nights! :-D
 
I think it's more of "the types of girls who (actually) play video games are the types of girls (people) who generally have the intelligence which allows for more and better job opportunities"
 
Not saying that brain size is related to intelligence, and humans vary alot, but girls on average have 9 percent smaller brains than men...
 
SkribbelKat said:
It's a good article, but the problem is that people simply can't predict how a particular set of fields like STEM will look in the ten to twenty years it takes for children to grow up and get educated. Jobs might be harder to find because of market saturation or societal changes. Of course, that's no excuse not to encourage kids (girls and boys) to explore and have fun in ways that interest them. Someday, Dekoth's daughter might be blowing up her dad with a rocket launcher. :p
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Very possible!..couple of months ago she was watching me play a game and smack talked me. :eek: I don't remember what it was exactly but it had been a couple months since I played and I made a silly mistake. She looks at me super serious and says "You suck dad, that was full of fail"....she is 6. I am not sure if I have failed or succeeded as a parent when my 6 year old knows the appropriate time to trash talk me. :confused:
 
Gaming doesn't beget a job in STEM, it's just another impetus people are now claiming helps, and the claim is that gaming can help close the gender gap among CS jobs. There are physiological differences between men and women. Why there is a large discrepancy in CS jobs among men vs. women? In my opinion, it may just simply be that both genders are wired differently and their inclinations to certain careers reflect that. Why are there more female nurses than males? There are generalizations you can make about both genders in terms of collective interests. It's not sexist, women like flowers, men like guns. Gaming might help lead girls into CS jobs, but I think it's not really the answer. Gaming shouldn't even be the focus of what divides men and women in the STEM fields, if I'm honest.

STEM = (Science, Technology, Engineering, Mathematics)
 
My dad got me into gaming and tinkering with hardware at a very early game, and my parents bought me Legos to play with. BS in Computer Science. Working as a software engineer and doing my Masters in CS on the side.

Anyways, I guess I never really got into the mindset that girls are supposed to play with certain kinds of toys, and go into certain fields, and never met that kind of mindset until I saw it discussed later on.

(yes I'm a chick in case I was being too implicit)
 
AmberClad said:
My dad got me into gaming and tinkering with hardware at a very early game, and my parents bought me Legos to play with. BS in Computer Science. Working as a software engineer and doing my Masters in CS on the side.

Anyways, I guess I never really got into the mindset that girls are supposed to play with certain kinds of toys, and go into certain fields, and never met that kind of mindset until I saw it discussed later on.

(yes I'm a chick in case I was being too implicit)
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Yes, before I read that I was going to give a shitty sarcastic response. Now, all I have to say is "Well Done."
 
Btw, when we at [H] think about gaming, we usually mean PC gaming on a OCed rig, but there's also more casual console gaming (a lot of the girls I met in school were more into Gamecube, console, Zelda games etc), Guitar Hero/DDR, social gaming apps, etc. So those more casual types of gaming might feel more accessible to say, someone who didn't have an engineer dad growing up like I did.

Before I started reading Gamasutra, I didn't realize the number of female game developers there were out there. I knew about Kim Swift (Portal) obviously, but there are way more out there than I was aware of (especially in social gaming apps).
 
SkribbelKat said:
It's a good article, but the problem is that people simply can't predict how a particular set of fields like STEM will look in the ten to twenty years it takes for children to grow up and get educated. Jobs might be harder to find because of market saturation or societal changes. Of course, that's no excuse not to encourage kids (girls and boys) to explore and have fun in ways that interest them. Someday, Dekoth's daughter might be blowing up her dad with a rocket launcher. :p
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I don't think it's about a specific skill set like how to use Windows, it's about developing critical thinking skills, problem solving, logic and technical creativity. Notice how both girls and boys toys are filled with technology (like dolls that eat and talk), yet while these features are advertised in the boys toys, for girls they are just refered to as 'magic'. Long before they reach school girls are taught that they don't need to think, everything is magic and will take care of itself.

Don't give your daughter Barbie's Dream House. Give her LEGO and let her build it.
 
Until you meet a chick that has at least a CCNA under her belt... every other girl is irrelevant.
 
As a man, if I could find a hardworking woman who would marry me and support me based on nothing but my looks and my abilities in bed, why would I go though the effort of college and a career?

There are no women in technology jobs, because women don't need technology jobs (or jobs at all in some cases).

Up until the 1940s and the WWII labor shortage, there were almost no women at all in ANY field, let alone STEM fields.
 
Well you're incorrect sir-gold. There are several women in technology related fields... Some are even CEO's of tech companies. Note HP's CEO is former CEO of Ebay.

My boss is female, and before that job my boss was female as well. We have 2 other people in our department that are female. One a database nerd, and another help desk employee.

They are out there... just few of them.
 
tuone said:
Not saying that brain size is related to intelligence, and humans vary alot, but girls on average have 9 percent smaller brains than men...
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A Sperm whale has an 18lb brain, but they still can't pilot a plane or write an essay.
 
Dekoth-E- said:
Very possible!..couple of months ago she was watching me play a game and smack talked me. :eek: I don't remember what it was exactly but it had been a couple months since I played and I made a silly mistake. She looks at me super serious and says "You suck dad, that was full of fail"....she is 6. I am not sure if I have failed or succeeded as a parent when my 6 year old knows the appropriate time to trash talk me. :confused:
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It could be that her trash talk timing is an inherited instead of a learned trait. :p Either way, it sounds like you're doing fine. More important than playing games though, is getting her to do the IT tinkering and technical stuff with you. Like Dave rightly points out below, it's problem solving and logical thinking skills that help give munchkins the stuff they need to deal with the real world.

David_CAN said:
I don't think it's about a specific skill set like how to use Windows, it's about developing critical thinking skills, problem solving, logic and technical creativity. Notice how both girls and boys toys are filled with technology (like dolls that eat and talk), yet while these features are advertised in the boys toys, for girls they are just refered to as 'magic'. Long before they reach school girls are taught that they don't need to think, everything is magic and will take care of itself.

Don't give your daughter Barbie's Dream House. Give her LEGO and let her build it.
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That has always annoyed me about toys! You can see a drastic marketing difference in toys across genders but a lot of that has to do with toy companies doing what's effective to market items to gender and age sub-groups (along with a healthy dose of stereotyping).
 
wiseoracle said:
Well you're incorrect sir-gold. There are several women in technology related fields... Some are even CEO's of tech companies. Note HP's CEO is former CEO of Ebay.

My boss is female, and before that job my boss was female as well. We have 2 other people in our department that are female. One a database nerd, and another help desk employee.

They are out there... just few of them.
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In my experience, the average "tech" CEO or "tech" manager (regardless of gender) usually came from a non-tech background, such as an accounting or business management school.

Meg Whitman (the CEO of HP) started going to college to be a doctor, but gave up on science and instead got an Economics degree from Harvard Business School. She then spent 20 years working for non-tech companies in a non-tech role. As far as being the CEO of HP, they could have made Barney Fife the CEO and he would have done better than Leo "burn-it-all" Apotheker, so she not exactly filling some big shoes

also, you didn't say how many total people there are in your department, if you have 2 women and 15 men then it just proves my point.
 
Is this related to Obama's claim to "War on Women" about women get paid less too? Spare me. Some women are interested in techie stuff. I know quite a few. There are other women who play video games yet not have the slightest clue about what's happening in the background of the machine (my wife). And then there are the others.
 
I can't say I agree with the article nor do my experience really reflect this. Playing a game on an XBox is completely different than coding a game in C++; it's a huge leap, not just technically but motivationally. As for young children and toys, while there are studies showing how certain toys can stimulate certain parts of the brain, there is no way you can corrolate that to a BS in CS. Which brings me to a simple matter that will have the greatest impact on girls (and children in general) in getting a good job - parents and parenting. My job as a parent is to guide and motivate my daughter, and if I really wanted her to get into computer science, I can guide her by letting her play with computer parts, and I can motivate her by buying her an annual pass to Disneyland if she program a simple game on a Rasberry PI.

From a job searching prospective, I think it's a terrible idea to push into any field unless you are going to be applying to college and have to decide on a major within a year. My 10 month old daughter will be in a completely different world when she starts to search for a job so my advice to her would to be flexible on what she wants to do.
 
Also, I always tell her, "We didn't give birth to you for you to go to Yale. HARVARD!"
 
Notes on managers of tech and techs. These are jobs that have very different re
 
JoeUser said:
Ok in all seriousness I do agree with the comment. Being attractive and a bit geeky is always a winner as I am my own perfect example! Can't tell you how many house calls for PC repair turned into lustful nights, pawing at myself to furry porn! :-D
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Fixed for you.
 
Computer science has very few women, and is one of the sciences that is advancing at the fastest speed. Why change what is working?
 
tuone said:
Not saying that brain size is related to intelligence, and humans vary alot, but girls on average have 9 percent smaller brains than men...
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women's brains are much stupider than men's are
 
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