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Can't run middle CRT in eyefinity at custom refresh rate - please help

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my eyefnity setup is in win7x64, 6970

I have 3 monitors:
Left 2405FPW via dvi, middle FW900 via VGA, right 2407wfpb via display port -> vga adapter.

i run a custom .inf driver hack to force fw900 to 1920x1200@95Hz in single monitor mode, it stays in that 95Hz even on extended desktop, but when the unified resolution of eyefinity is enabled, it drops to its default 85


PLease help :confused:
 
I'm pretty sure Eyefinity wants your monitors to run at the same refresh rate.... The other two are 60Hz monitors, correct? I would think that you would be limited to the lowest refresh rate of the group. After all, eyefinity is basically taking your monitors and grouping them together so that your computer sees them as a single larger screen.
 
blackhawk777 said:
I'm pretty sure Eyefinity wants your monitors to run at the same refresh rate.... The other two are 60Hz monitors, correct? I would think that you would be limited to the lowest refresh rate of the group. After all, eyefinity is basically taking your monitors and grouping them together so that your computer sees them as a single larger screen.
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That's a common misconception. Monitors run at an independent refresh rate from each other, you can run 5 monitors, of 5 different refresh rates, as long as they're the same resolution.

My problem is that it defaults to the lower one, instead of using the custom driver 95Hz I made, is there a way to take out the 1920x1200@85 from the EDID altogether?
 
Where do you see that it's possible? I did a quick search and other people could not get eyefinity working with different refresh rates as well. And from what I read, 85hz was a common bug with CRT. Even if the 2 side monitors were at 60, the middle would go to 85hz.
 
I'm having this same problem too. I had eyefinity setup before to run fine at 60/85/60 but ended up selling the 3rd monitor. Got it set up again and it's stuck at 60/60/60. Any suggestions? I've tried reinstalling drivers a few times, and I'd really not like to go back to older ones.

I was thinking of trying this EDID hack and removing 1920x1200 60hz all together.
 
Just had the same problem, 11.11a drivers not reset the middle CRT monitor to 60Hz as well.

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Ok, praise Entech!!!

If it wasn't for PowerStrip I would be forced to abandon the FW900 long ago, but since the ati 5xxx series, they dropped the support, now they finally reverse engineered ati and caught up with the 5 series, the 6 series works too, not for colour, but for our intensive purposes.

This guide should apply to all monitors, not just the FW900, and not just CRTs, probably works for the individuals that have two 60Hz on the side and one 120Hz in the middle.

Some steps may not be necessary at all, may in your case some extras steps might be necessary, don't blame me if you break anything.

  1. Step one.

    This step isn't really required, at all. Completely optional.
    If you don't have a custom *.inf already installed so you can run the monitor at custom refresh rate over 85, well make one using moninfo (info1, info2, and info3 )
    You're welcome to use mine, but mine but it is for 1920x1200@97Hz (actual 94) so if you are trying for a different setup, like 3x 1920x1080 you'll have to make your own for single monitor viewing

    Link to my inf: mirror1, mirror2

    mirror3 of my inf:

    copy to notepad and save as whatever.inf
    Code: 
    ; INF file generated by Monitor Asset Manager (2.60.0.964), 7/6/2011
; Copyright (c) EnTech Taiwan, 1995-2011.
; Internet: http://www.entechtaiwan.com

[Version]
Signature="$WINDOWS NT$"
Class=Monitor
ClassGUID={4d36e96e-e325-11ce-bfc1-08002be10318}
Provider=%MFG%
DriverVer=7/6/2011, 1.0.0.0
;CatalogFile=YourSignedCatalogFile.cat

[DestinationDirs]
DefaultDestDir=23

[SourceDisksNames]
1=%DISC%

[SourceDisksFiles]
;YourColorProfileFile.icm

[Manufacturer]
%VENDOR%=EDID_OVERRIDE,NTx86,NTamd64

[EDID_OVERRIDE.NTx86]
%PRODUCTID%=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install, MONITOR\SNY01E0

[EDID_OVERRIDE.NTamd64]
%PRODUCTID%=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64, MONITOR\SNY01E0

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTx86]
DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg, MODE1, DPMS
CopyFiles=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64]
DelReg=DEL_CURRENT_REG
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg, MODE1, DPMS
CopyFiles=OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTx86.HW]
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.Install.NTamd64.HW]
AddReg=OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID_AddReg]
;Base EDID
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE,"0",0x01,0x00,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0xFF,0x00,0x4D,0xD9,0xE0,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x01,0x04,0x0D,0x01,0x03,0x0E,0x30,0x1F,0x96,0xE9,0x0C,0xC9,0xA0,0x57,0x47,0x9B,0x27,0x12,0x48,0x4C,0xFF,0xFF,0x80,0xE1,0x19,0xE1,0x4F,0xD1,0x22,0xD1,0xE8,0x45,0x7C,0x61,0x7C,0x81,0x3C,0xB3,0x28,0xF2,0x95,0x00,0x70,0x93,0xA0,0x43,0x50,0xB0,0x00,0x13,0x10,0xDA,0x28,0x11,0x00,0x00,0x18,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFD,0x00,0x30,0xA0,0x1E,0x79,0x28,0x00,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFC,0x00,0x47,0x44,0x4D,0x2D,0x46,0x57,0x39,0x30,0x30,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x00,0x00,0x00,0xFF,0x00,0x32,0x37,0x32,0x31,0x33,0x30,0x38,0x0A,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x20,0x00,0x43

[DEL_CURRENT_REG]
HKR,MODES
HKR,EDID_OVERRIDE
HKR,,MaxResolution
HKR,,PreferredMode
HKR,,DPMS
HKR,,ICMProfile

[DPMS]
HKR,,DPMS,,1

HKR,,PreferredMode,,"1920,1200,97"
[MODE1]
HKR,,MaxResolution,,"1920,1200,97"

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.AddReg]
HKR,"MODES\1920,1200,97",Mode1,,"30.0-121.0,48.0-160.0,+,+"

[OVERRIDDEN-EDID.CopyFiles]
;YourColorProfileFile.icm for non-sRGB displays

[Strings]
MFG="EnTech Taiwan"
DISC="Monitor EDID Override Installation Disk"
PRODUCTID="Sony GDM-FW900 (SNY01E0 EDID Override)97"
VENDOR="Sony"

    Go to device manager, monitors, right click fw900, properties, driver tab, update driver, browse my computer, let me pick from list, click Have Disk, browse, and select the inf file your downloaded, install, restart computer
  2. Step two
    after installing the drivers, im running latest ati 11.10, go to catalyst control center, my vga displays, and under monitor attributes make sure EDID is not checked.
  3. Step three
    Install the latest powerstrip
    when installing click no for the colour profiles, since colour profiling configuration is still broken with 6000 series

    Have only your main middle crt enabled/plugged in, Restart puter, launch powerstrip

    right now your crt should be running at the desired regular resolution (1920x1200@94)

    right click powerstrip, display, configure, under refresh rate change to custom timing (or standard discrete, whatever is available) then click OK
    write down the values, my pixel clock was 315.000, vertical 94.248 and 119.318Hz horizontal, you might need these for reference
    No change have been made to the current resolution or something like that.will pop up, good click OK. but now it will say Custom instead of Windwos default there, click ok.
    Now change the timings BACK to windows default, and put the slider down to 60Hz
  4. Step four
    YOU MAY NOW CONNECT THE ADDITIONAL DISPLAYS

    go to ati control panel, enable eyefinity, set it up, now when it's on, and both screens on the sides are on and everything is right but the middle screen,
    right click powerstrip, display profiles, configure, it should say 5760x1200 or whatever, click advanced timings and adjust them to increase refresh rate

    if you saved the timings from earlier, disable realtimeclcok cahgne checkbox and paste them into the appropriate checkboxes, but they might not be 1:1 with what you had as a single display.

    my pixel clock 315.000 became 307.378, vsync went from 94.248 to 95.251 and hsync from 119.318 to 118.587 to match my 'saved geometry settings' in the monitor

    if you ever restart your computer (why would anyone need to?) just run powerstrip to re-enable your saved refresh rate. if you need to switch to eyefinity, but your side monitors say 'out of range', switch to 60Hz first, then enable eyefinity then increase the refresh rate via powerstrip

  5. Step five

    enjoy! check out http://widescreengamingforum.com/ for individual game fixes

TL;DR:
after enabling eyefinity, use the latest version of powerstrip to increase your refresh rate, it will only increase the middle monitor's

this wouldnt be possible without powerstrip, so if you want to support anyone who still supports CRTs, give your money to Entech
 
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Thanks a lot for the guide! Do you know if this is driver independent? So in other words, when you update drivers, will you have to go through any of this again?
 
ManyCowsMoo said:
Thanks a lot for the guide! Do you know if this is driver independent? So in other words, when you update drivers, will you have to go through any of this again?
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maybe. driver can really fuck everything up. most likely no, but it depends on what that change. I'd try it with 11.12, but their leaked test drivers and performance is shit with them.

but i'll update this thread if i have any issues with later drivers
 
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