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This.
It's been functionally like this since Kepler / GCN era (with some competition once the 290X released), but only got worse when AI took off and RT as a feature became a thing. AMD could catch up on the gaming side maybe, but Nvidia still wouldn't see them as competition unless they...
Yeah I noticed that with my MC too. No phone number.
I've shopped at Micro Center for over 17 years now. Can confirm the online reservation system for pickup is:
- Card asked for but not charged
- They will hold item for a number for days (typically 3) for you to come buy it and pick it up...
580 was basically the full silicon (512 coda cores) while the 480 was well 480 cud cores (lol). They had lots of yield issues with TSMC 40nm when the 400-series came out that it wasn't until the 500-series that they had good enough yields to get enough full dies to be viable. I'd almost liken...
Yeah I was like really $1300 for a 9070 XT with 32GB still over a 256-bit bus? LOL. And it's regular GDDR6, its not even 6X or 7, so the VRAM is stupid cheap.
A 32GB 9070 XT exists. It's called the Radeon AI Pro R9700. It's stupidly overpriced for being basically a double VRAM 9070 XT, and seems to be hard to find. Guess it's still cheaper than a 5090 if you need 32GB, but still. Bad pricing is bad pricing.
No and given lack of AMD competition in that performance space, unlikely to be one ever. Since you already seem to have a 5090, I guess wait and see what the 6090 is. I'd suspect the 6090 will have a larger performance uplift over the 5090 than the 5090 did over the 4090 given they stayed with...
Yeah I bet the 3070 and 3070 Ti would be killer cards with 16GB. Granted, the limit at that point is the GPU itself, but in situations where the 8GB buffer causes stutters and massive drops or texture pop-in? Yeah...
Wife has a 3070 Ti right now. Upgraded her to a 4K LG OLED and luckily she...
Is there any reliable way to get aggregate data on "this many 4090's, 5090's, etc." were manufactured and sold, and this many had an issue? Doubt it.
I will say 8-pins burned up too, but the only time I ever heard about that was people using shitty cable extensions.
There is also a design...
I always call 4X a marketing number. Nobody I know who has used it thought it was good. 2X should be great if you are pushing enough real frames with the card. Basically acts as a frame smoother.
A $540 5070 is less than what I payed for a 3070 in 2021 which was a bit over $600, so it's not the worst thing.
That said, I agree with others. If you can, wait a few months for the Super refresh and get the 18GB version. I wouldn't bother with the 12GB card, I kind of consider that a minimum...
I'm slightly in the same boat. I picked up a 4090 earlier this year for a good price but it won't fit in the main rig and I also don't feel like fiddling with the hard tubing water-cooling that's in it.
Plan right now is new build with Zen 6, new case, and back to soft tubing, and the 4090 will...
Same...I had some PNY in that era as well.
Given they also make pro Nvidia cards, stands to reason they are an excellent partner. I agree their gaming line is "basic", but a reference card is a reference card. Nothing wrong with that.
Given 1080 Ti's were still relevant cards to still have up till recently given the rather stagnant push on performance outside the high end, I think 10 years would have been a good target. Hell they were still as good as a 3060 in traditional frames.
On the other hand, Pascal really is just...
Price should be closer to $189-$199.
8GB is fine for that price point.
Power consumption is high for a 50-class card. A use case for these types of cards in the past has been as low power (needing no external power cable) and / or small form factor.
Another waste of TSMC silicon.
I mean if your main concern is a card that works and you play older titles at 1080p or even 1440p, then sure, 8GB is probably fine.
I still think it's wasted at the 60-class segment which historically is mainstream. Mainstream does not equal esports titles only.
I'd have to look at historical AMD generations to see, but through the 2010's they were doing a LOT of rebrands each gen so harder to track VRAM progression vs Nvidia. Nvidia on the other hand was doubling VRAM...at every segment mind you every generation, until they weren't once it went from...
Titans are weird. While they definitely had the pro angle, I remember the original being marketed for supercomputers, but they also had gaming marketing tied into it as the ultimate gaming card. I think they eventually figured out what a Titan was, but they definitely tried to straddle that line...
Fair analysis.
I still say gaming seems a weird market segment for Nvidia in terms of a product stack these days, but yeah I do see what you are saying.
Yeah I will totally grant the difference in transistor cost scaling...which goes back to my original premise of OK Nvidia, then ditch the low-mid range if its not really advancing the actual performance bar any which looking at the 5060 vs 4060, 3060 Ti, etc. on some of these reviews....seems to...
Got my Steam Deck OLED 1TB model in last week and have to say I have been enjoying the hell out of it, way more than I thought I would. And so far its worked absolutely flawlessly for the games I have installed so far.
Again, starve the market for months, not hard to figure out where all the demand came from leading to said results.
Sure that's one way to think about it, another way to think about it is that once upon a time a 60-class product easily performed the same as a last gen 80-class product. Think...
Don't get me wrong, if I was a heavy duty Nvidia investor I'd probably be saying what the hell are you guys bothering to use TSMC allocation for sub $500 products for when you can make this and sell it for $10k?
Nvidia is in a weird space.
End quarter of last year and first quarter of this year the market for new cards didn't really exist anymore as 40-series ran out of stock and 50-series was ill supplied, now its starting to be better supplied. So not exactly hard to top that. Context for what was happening each quarter seems...
Nvidia should just ditch gaming at this point, or at least ditch trying to do a full stack of gaming cards each generation. It's clear they don't care about anything below the high end as it continues to get cut down more and more. I don't see any justification for things like the 5060 Ti 8GB or...
This is where you see the dirty trick in all of this. Oh this is a 5060 Ti or oh this is a 9060 XT...and oh this one it's the cheapest, I'll buy that one. The only reason to have these be where they are, configured how they are, priced how they are, and branded how they are is to extract money...
How much die space are we talking about? I totally see that with the 5090 having 16 memory channels to enable the 512-bit bus, but how much die space is really saved going from say 256-bit to 192-bit, or similar? I've seen the block diagrams, but obviously those don't give you a realistic view...
I believe a lot of that performance capability came down to what was enabled or disabled via the driver in terms of professional Quadro optimizations when you look at say a 780 Ti vs a Titan or Titan Black. Besides the VRAM segmentation, and Dan_D is correct on some clock/power differences, the...