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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    The problem with this hybrid type cooling solution, is that you will have a GPU fan still, which as i said, will most likely die within 2 years if you use the PC heavily 24/7. Plus, attaching a third party liquid cooling system you will most likely run into issues with your warranty, should the...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    Yes, i understand your concerns, especially when there is a leak, it can kill your whole system i suppose. And reading through the coolermaster warranty, they made damn sure that this is not covered by them :D In spite of your justified concerns, personally i believe that the benefits outweight...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    Not my experience. I have a coolermaster nepton 140xl on my 5960x. PC is always on since almost 2.5 years now. Cooling power is the same still. I have to admit however, that this is my first venture into factory sealed liquid cooling solutions, so you might be right. Have any links which would...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    I just hope the vega GPUs will come with stock liquid cooling solutions like the saphire radeon fury x did. The nvidia founders edition cooling solution is complete garbage. If you have been around long enough to have built many systems over the years, you should know that GPU fans usually die...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    As for those claiming that the 7700k CPU is maxing in BF1 in various side by side comparisons with a Ryzen, and assume that a ryzen would deliver much more because they misinterpret the CPU utilization, i found a review which however is in German. You will have to use a translator. It compares...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    Anyway, back to the point and the original question OP was asking. If you own a 3570k which is capable of 4.6ghz, then it's not worth it switching to neither a 7700k or Ryzen 1700 or even 1800x when it comes to playing battlefield 1. You will at best see a 15% increase in fps at low resolutions...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    Then someone is lying about the benchmarks or so it seems. Here http://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/2822-amd-ryzen-r7-1800x-review-premiere-blender-fps-benchmarks/page-7 both the 6900k and the 7700k beat the ryzen 1800x, even at stock speeds. However, the benchmarks DO look a bit fishy...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    Indeed, when i calculated around $1k, i did not include in my calculations possibly won DDR4 sticks at a LAN party :D Either way, it will be wasted $600 if gaming is the main task for this CPU, in my opinion. Personally i would wait for the next 10nm CPUs generation and then strike. edit...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    I might be mistaken here. But isn't the Ryzen using ddr4 ram, whereas the 3570k uses ddr3 RAM? Also, will you be going for 1800x or 1700x? Isn't the 1800x $500 alone? A good motherboard is usually around $200, plus the DDR4 RAM $200 or so. So maybe not $1k but around $800-900 or $700-800 if you...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    That has nothing to do with the 3570k struggling at BF1 if the engine is similar to BF4. With HT off on my 5960x playing BF4, it will make use of 4 cores to the max, while the rest of the cores are almost idle. With HT on, it shows less usage but actually gets hotter, so whenever you see reviews...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    If a 3570k "chokes a dick" on conquest, i doubt the Ryzen won't. Maybe you need to check those temps on your 3570k and dedust/replace your fans if you haven't done so for a long time.
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    Here is a video that shows the 3570k@4ghz 1070x@4ghz and the 6700k@4ghz side by side Note that GTAV is one of the few games which makes uses of more than 4 cores and is quite CPU intensive. Even here, the ryzen is only slightly faster than the 3570k@4ghz. And the [email protected] would be about...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    Your fps in BF1 will most likely drop when going from a [email protected] to a ryzen@4ghz. At best, i expect your fps to remain the same. So unless you are planning to use the Ryzen for stuff like working with blender, encoding videos etc, you will be wasting your money.
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    HT off and especially C states off, both reduce the DPC latency i measured with latencymon. Not only when the CPU is idle, but also when you turn to a high-performance power profile and run some apps. I believe to have experienced a smoother/snapier gameplay in BF4 with those turned off but i am...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    I cannot confirm this. I own a 5960x. Turning HT-off in the bios, there is exactly zero difference in the fps i get in battlefield 4 compared to HT-on. I do get a higher fps count however when overclocking from 4ghz to 4.5ghz. With HT-off however, i can overclock higher without running into...
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    Torn between 7700K or Ryzen 1700

    The dissapointment you would experience if you went from the [email protected] to a Ryzen could not possibly be packed into words. Make no mistake, the Ryzen is a good CPU, but it's main strength are not games. The Ryzen is a workstation CPU which can also double as a good but not perfect gaming CPU...
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