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You know, Nehalem doesn't really have an IPC advantage over Piledriver... source, I'm running Nehalem right now... see my sig.

I was referring to the parts of that article that dealt with the aspects of the OC that did not deal with pll modding. I agree that is not needed

Take a look at uncore overclocking, as I believe the cache is considered part of the uncore: http://hwbot.org/news/11337_der8auers_guide_for_haswell_e_4ghz_uncore_for_all_motherboards/

Like I said earlier, I don't have a clue. Are you OCing via the clock or the "FSB" (not sure what it would be called on Haswell-E)?

bumping this thread because if anyone who actually knows can answer, then I think I could learn something. I have no idea why you can't OC cache; in fact cache OCing is not something I'm very familiar with at all; I had always assumed it overclocked along with the rest of the CPU these days.

However, as mentioned, that rig is no longer in existence.

Oh trust me, I have asked them. Many times. It's in IP hell right now because Cyberstorm was a Sierra produced game developed by Dynamix. Both of those companies are now defunct; as a part of the Starsiege universe, the IP was defacto purchased by HiRez Studios (of Tribes: Ascend fame/infamy)...

Shit that's actually coming out: 1. Master of Orion 4 2. Star Citizen 3. Exanima 4. Project Zomboid 5. XCOM 2 6. Gang Beasts 7. SPAZ 2 8. Rainbow Six: Siege 9. Shit that's still on my backlist: 1. Ultimate General: Gettysburg 2. deORBIT 3. Subnautica

This is what actual 3 core performance looks like (Tomb Raider, same machine as last time, no TressFX): https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9g6EyuXHTnkNDZMUzVDQWczN3c/view?usp=sharing

I think I see the confusion now. I should not have used the word "test" so liberally in the OP. The real reason I ran the game on these three systems was to get a general idea of the performance of each rig as I was purposing them, not to see what kind of engine was under the hood with CSGO. I...

Actually, the OS differences are a help to the test, showing us that it is actually unlikely to be a scheduling issue - two different scheduling mechanisms showing basically the same result is no accident of a particular software. FPS was not really important for this test since both were GPU...

I hear you man, I also still have my original CD with no DRM and everything... Gaming was different back then, haha. Anyway, I run this game without issues in XP mode or an XP virtual machine with a few compatibility settings turned on. There's even a patch for cybrid return fire, which makes...

I assume you've tried your linux rig's Orca Screen Reader?

25% load total tells us very little unfortunately. That could be two threads at 100%, or it could be all 8 of your threads at some fraction, or it could be something in-between. All evidence points to CSGO not being on Source 2 engine, but I can tell you right now that the game looks like it...

You have four additional threads, but also a much faster core and wildly different RAM and probably I/O as well. Can you tell us what the load per thread was, and the number if threads used?

It's pretty crazy how little attention they got, given how amazing they were. Especially the first one.

if you need help getting the older title to run or finding out how to acquire either title let me know.

Missionforce: Cyberstorm Cyberstorm 2 thank me later

AMD driver support on linux is weird. I really do not understand it, and it seems to be specific about what GPU cores it likes and which it doesn't. Case in point: yesterday I actually tried installing an AMD GPU into two separate linux systems - first a Radeon HD 4890 into an OpenSUSE 13.2...

I should have done that, but I didn't. I also have not tested other source games. Would you be willing to contribute to the effort? The Xeon rig is disassembled right now, so I don't really have the ability to do it myself, and the i3 rig is going to a customer within the next few days. I...

For the most part they are. Most of the big new titles released since at least mid-2014, and lots of the little ones, use most or all of a computer's threads. It's been a big sea-change that I don't think most people have cottoned onto yet, but I've been following this closely because I am a big...

Just thought I'd post this here because it was a bit of an eye-opener for me, and I'm sure it probably will be for at least a few other people who have played Source games. CS:GO is now heavily multithreaded. It used to be the case that CS:GO really used one big fat thread, with one or two...

Not sure if others have posted some of these, but I have found other the years that I have some kinda weird taste in video games, so I might make an interesting contribution to this thread even late into it: 1. Missionforce: Cyberstorm X-Com, but with Mecha and troopers you can grow in a vat...

build the case out of lego, never have problems aligning anything :)

Yeah, that's kinda what I mean. Everyone knows that you don't really need Haswell levels of IPC for gaming. If you come in and offer something like the above, and it's maybe got a great GCN 2.0 GPU on the die with VCE to handle streaming while your main GPU handles the game (something APU+GPU...

All AMD needed to do in order to be at least a relevant big-core option was 25% IPC gains while doubling their thread count, which it looks like they will do since talk is that Zen will ship with 16 core options and an SMT architecture (multiple threads per core? etc). If they actually pull off...

We've literally told you most of this stuff already. Aiming for 32gb on a gaming system is a ridiculous goal. 500W is huge overkill for this system and was suggested so that it could be used in beefier future builds. Therefore a 600W PSU is utterly unneeded. Running 2 GPUs isn't all it's...

Honestly, considering that the A10-7850K costs near that i3 and gets him a significant CPU performance increase over the Celeron, plus a full-blown GPU update, I'd think you'd want to recommend that before the i3.

Yup, this is EXACTLY it! Good to know someone else on here knows what's going on with CMT vs SMT. When you're only stressing one core on a module, nobody is sharing, so work doesn't slow down. It would be interesting to own both of these chips and run the benchmarks in situ, so that you...

Hardmode: can you explain why the Athlon X2 370K gains so much on single core score compared to the Celeron, to achieve functional parity with the much more powerful Haswell architecture when only one thread is used :) I know I can...

What I'm saying is that within the lifetime of that upgrade, you will not need more than 12gb, which is what you could end up with if you buy a 4gb now, and then (at a maximum) an 8gb later. If you INSIST on being able to hit 16gb, then I would suggest getting 4gb now and then getting a 4 slot...

I really think that's unnecessary. Why do you want to end up with 16gb?

You're not getting to 16gb unless you have 4 RAM slots. But 8gb is usually more than enough for gaming anyway.

Quick addendum here for other people looking into similar CPU upgrades, and a kind of interesting tag-on to the conversation earlier vis-a-vis Passmark scores - take a look at the following Passmark comparison between the Celeron G1820, the Athlon X2 370K, and the A4-3700...

Unless you have access to more funds for that or you're a student, it will be a little difficult to fit into your budget... Might consider linux.

final note: do get yourself onto a 64-bit OS

Actually he did show us up with that Celeron build. The Celeron will offer MARKED improvement for your purposes, and it gets you on a great socket with modern RAM. I fully agree, that's the best build offered here. Jealous I didn't think to look at the Celerons. If it's too expensive, you...

I was thinking something more like this for you: PCPartPicker part list: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/hkDzVn Price breakdown by merchant: http://uk.pcpartpicker.com/p/hkDzVn/by_merchant/ CPU Cooler: Deepcool GAMMAXX S40 54.2 CFM CPU Cooler (£14.99 @ Amazon UK) Memory: Crucial Ballistix...

So for both of the games you listed (Aces High 2 and FSX), your GPU should MORE than handle them. Any bottleneck you're seeing would be RAM-dependent (if you're running a newer OS that is not linux this is likely) or CPU-dependent. That CPU really should be overclocked for ideal FSX performance...

Honestly, looking at passmark scores as a very general rule here, your OC'd Core 2 Quad would be hugely upset by the performance of an Athlon 860K, which won't run you more than $80 here in the states, and it would sit on a $40 board. As far as upgrades go, that might be one of the best...