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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    With the stock silent fan profile I can't get it to go past 64C @ 2040mhz. But I would hardly call it silent. With a much more conservative fan profile I am doing 70C @ 2025mhz. I imagine I'll end up tuning it more and settling in around 75C @ 2000. The stock strix sink is doing just as well...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Here is what a 2080 ti strix with the fan shroud and bracket ripped off looks like. Also hacked up the gigantic support bracket that said RTX on it.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    https://hardforum.com/threads/ncase-m1-a-crowdfunded-mini-itx-case-updates-in-first-post.1717132/page-687#post-1043987803
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    TLDR: Too many variables. Nobody has been willing to permanently damage their 2080ti in order to test without the fan brackets. If you use an Asus or EVGA 2.75/2.7 slot card, you cannot fit a 25mm thick fan under them. 15mm max, the EVGA requires removing screws to get it to fit. If you remove...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    It doesn't perform better.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    I'm probably in the minority on this, but I'd prefer no I/O. I just want the power button hole. Looks cleaner with custom switches.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    If the fan sticker is visible then it's pull. If the fan sticker is covered then it's push.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    I'd go with Noctua NF-A9 PWM's or Noctua NF-B9 redux PWM's.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    I generally tend to call the rear interior pull and the right fan as pull too. I like to call the 120 push because I do not pull out. xd But srsly tho it's push.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Disregard the front mounted PSU and Accelero in the picture. The example here is the U9S + Fans. Two total blowing towards the front of the case. The 120mm mounts on the right side of the included fan bracket (it can't fit on the left side, that's where the U9S is) internal as push. Think of...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    That's not the fan. FLX is a 3 pin. You want the PWM version. Edit: I don't know about the single fan AIO. I've never tested one. I know that 2x120 AIO mops the floor with the C14S and U9S. So the ideal U9S setup would be: 1x92mm fan on the rear chassis as intake. 1x92mm fan on the right side...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Yes. The Noctua coolers perform in line with their weight. More sink area = more weight = better temps.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    The C14S cooler might not work with the Asus motherboard due to the gigantic I/O cover. That's another reason why the Phantom is recommended.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Yes, one 120mm fan will fit with the PSU in the SFX position.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    U9S + Accelero + TG window - Attach one 92mm fan on the chassis as intake. Attach one 92mm fan on the right side of the sink as pull. Attach 2x120mm fans underneath the Accelero as exhaust. C14S + Accelero + TG window - Contact Noctua and request a pair of NM-SFC14 clips. Attach one 92mm...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    On a personal note, I absolutely hate when people use ellipses the wrong way. FFS man, use a period. lol
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    To me these tests shouldn't be directly compared simply due to the Accelero. Changing the bottom fans from exhaust to intake changes everything. All the heat from the Accelero leaves the case very quickly and doesn't hit the CPU cooler, whereas stock GPU configs dump all that heat into the case...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Nice job on the tests Smooty. Did you use a thermal pad or thermal paste? Just kidding, saw where you used Kryonaut. It's interesting to see the differences when the bottom fans are set to intake. I also have to say that I became annoyed with my pump speed noise at 100% (3000 rpm) and have...
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    FS: Noctua Coolers and fans, PSU's, Ncase M1, Direct Die Frame, Misc

    D9L and Fiio A3 are still available.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Like Doug said, if you haven't already, you need to delid. I'm assuming you're still running the 6700k in your signature. That will help a lot. Next, remove these four screws and add two NF-A12X15 fans underneath the GPU as intake. The fans will not fit unless you remove the screws. After...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    SF750 only comes in Platinum.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    I have updated the spreadsheet to be more clear. Additional suggestions are welcome.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Fans external means they were mounted to the bracket. I included two pictures in the post. It is the one where you can see the fans. Fans external push won both tests by a small margin. It was repeatable. It really feels like you don't believe any of my testing and I'm not sure why.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    It might obstruct the PSU exhaust. Not totally sure. I'm not too worried about it either way. Something was wrong with my top filter in that, no matter which way I oriented it, a good 30% would not remain attached with the magnet. I got tired of fighting with it. In regards to the right side...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    I think it was this https://www.moddiy.com/products/Premium-Dust-Filter-Material-%2850cm-x-40cm-x-3mm%29-.html I've done the demcifilter thing and they filter very well, I just hate the super weak magnets that hold it. This is permanent and I can use an air compressor to blow it out.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    I mounted it the other way to avoid the bend and then routed the tubes toward the power supply.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Yeah they're stock cables. I just plug everything in the PSU and board then shove all the cables in the back making sure they don't hit the bottom fan. The top is a foam dust filter I cut to size and glued to one of my silver tops. I use it when I'm not running tests.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Broke down and got the SF750. Dat cable management tho.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    I take the hit on performance for aesthetics. I run with a tinted tempered glass window and I get to stare at my fat sinks all day.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    My original tests were for one hour. The water temperature never got above 40C, and the numbers were within 1-2C of my readings at 15 minutes, so I went with 15 minute tests that way I could run each test twice instead of just once. Again, the maximum temperature that the AIO's got were within...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    That's correct. I knew people wouldn't be happy unless those fans were used so I bought another one just for the tests. I actually haven't looked into other people's testing. Do you have a link to past big air vs AIO's? I'd love to take a look at their data. I made sure the water temperature...
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    I look forward to your test results.
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    FS: Noctua Coolers and fans, PSU's, Ncase M1, Direct Die Frame, Misc

    Lots of items still available.
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    NCASE M1: a crowdfunded Mini-ITX case (updates in first post)

    Yes, it is that much better due to 240mm of surface area to dissipate heat, and liquid transfers heat much better than air. If you would like to test for yourself then I think that is great. The more data we have the better. I will even show you step by step how I conducted the tests to ensure...
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    FS: Noctua Coolers and fans, PSU's, Ncase M1, Direct Die Frame, Misc

    I'm playing with settings to see if something was messed up on my end.
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    FS: Noctua Coolers and fans, PSU's, Ncase M1, Direct Die Frame, Misc

    Local is Dallas TX. All items are available to view prior to purchase. I accept verified paypal and cash. I'm only shipping within the US. I just set up my heataware today (2/4), which can be found here https://www.heatware.com/u/118277/to I'm not quite sure how to use it yet so please bare with...
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