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Maybe a 120+92mm fan arrangement on top then?

I think both designs look really good aesthetically and it comes down to how similar YOU want C4 look to A4. Very similar establishes a brand image; something people associate with Dan cases the moment they see it. But then it restricts you to that very image as you go. Tough call. I think...

Right. I should have said "current" ITX board...

Out of respect actually... I wasn't going to buy it, so I didn't want to sk(r)ew the survey ;) Let me know if I shouldn't post what I think, and I'll go away...

The only mini ITX board with 4 DIMMs is the Asrock X299 ITX, which would also work in that case, using the same Cryorig C1 cooler. The board is expensive, also the CPUs that go with it, also SODIMMs that it needs... So, do the math ;)

Yeah, I agree, the original was the best (especially if side IO is a must)...

Take a look at my build here, it might give you some ideas: https://smallformfactor.net/forum/threads/i-think-i-found-a-little-gem-realan-e-i7.6175/ tldr: it's a Ryzen 1800X based system, coupled with a low profile 1050Ti and a 400W DC-DC PSU solution with external bricks. Extremely portable at...

^ You should have turned your heatsink 90 degrees, fins in vertical orientation, so air can more easily flow upwards. It's also better for heatpipe performance. Which heatsink is that anyway?

Three and a half years ago, I had posted a case idea.... It's good to see that it's pretty much coming to life with C4-SFX ;) https://hardforum.com/threads/new-unconventional-mitx-case-idea.1813001/ No, I don't mean to imply that Dan took my idea or anything (he probably wasn't even aware)...

Hey dan, I just thought of a heatsink design, not sure if you considered... It would give better DIMM clearance (with standard height of 31.25mm) using the 120x15mm fan. I haven't drawn anything but I'll try to put in words... Think about an NH-L9i with 6 heatpipes... bend those heatpipe...

I just noticed, I'm in the "special thanks" page at A4 manual! (y):happy: Very thoughtful of you bro!

You're right, my apologies...

You are probably right about the surface area but the case layout I put up there has three 92mm fans (including the PSU) directly exhausting air, not two. The worst case, the case depth can be increased by 10mm to accommodate slim 120mm fans in the front. This would bring the case dimensions to...

Fair enough, except that there would be absolutely no need for any cables to provide. The user would use their own cables, pass through from the back and install. 92mm fans would not interfere with modern cables such as DP or HDMI. DVI cables would be a no-go though... Only an internal HDMI...

Hey dondan, I like the new design language but I think the new case is too similar to the M1, not significantly smaller in footprint (which matters most) and has less to offer. So, I'm afraid it would have a hard time at Kickstarter. I think you should consider a bolder approach and...

With all due respect, you jumped the gun by starting off with that comment on top. I understand your sensitivity and protectionism you have developed given all your efforts in designing your case but your claim that someone copy-pasted a tempered-glass sidepanel is as laughable as Apple's claim...

I think you should remove the front USB... would look so much better without it... Was there ever a survey of V1 users on utilization of the front USB?

^ That will end up looking like ++ two plus signs... which is not bad at all. The current cut though, it's way too long, showing the metal underneath, not looking very good.

Only if those heatpipes were flexible to make it universally compatible... As it is, it can support only one motherboard at a time...

Weight of copper wouldn't be any issue with such a low profile resulting in a low moment of force.

No, it's definitely not Turkish...

If you have some cash surplus and you want the best, you could get both Dondan's product and that one, and compare ;) Of course, very few people would do that if any...

Well, it might be worth a try for someone with some cash laying around :D Needless to say, it could be a potential outlet for Dondan to work with... I would order a couple of samples if I were him.

Look at the part named the "Core" and then re-read my post.

Nice video, a little too fast for my taste, but well done! :) However, if this is the final version of the case, I'm disappointed that you're not cutting out the perforated area on the Core. 58% open area versus 100%. That's a big difference in cooling, especially coupled with the top cover...

You are right, it would be a greater undertaking with an LHP implementation... Then with conventional heatpipes, still I hope you take the first half of my post under consideration ;)

Well, the heatpipes are copper and with CDC they would be touching each other, perfectly transferring the heat between each other, in turn perfectly achieving what a copper block is promising, potentially better since, well, there is no copper block to insert some inefficiencies... When I had...

Yeah, he calls that internal structure with the mounting and vent hole pattern the "Core" and the glossy top cover goes on top of everything. I think the tophats are exactly as pictured: they don't come with another glossy top (duh, I guess) and they just install on top of the "Core". Still, he...

No, it seems tophats are all optional. The case without the tophats is complete. If you want the additional volume offered by a tophat, you can get it, is what I understand... But you have a point with the internal vents on top... Pachalski, I also think it would be better if you can remove the...

Pachalski, I have an idea for your "Spine": Make it into an S-shape to create a compartment for the motherboard, and another compartment for the PSU. This way, the hot air from the PSU would not reach the motherboard area. It would also be much easier to implement a PSU bracket to be installed...

WOW, just WOW! This is like M1 2.0 (sorry, I had to, someone will anyway :D). It's only 10.0 litres with a 120x240 AIO solution! One thing I'd suggest is that you enable pump+res installation for those with custom liquid setups. It should be possible when used with a short/ITX size GPU...

Necere, two ideas about incorporating an ODD without distracting the looks as much. 1) A thin separation between the silver cover and the base, doubling as access to a slot-load ODD. Caveat: The rest of that thin separation needs to be covered nicely (internally) so as to not expose the...

Hey Necere, Looking at the last pics, I was reminded of the layout design I had proposed two years ago: https://hardforum.com/threads/new-unconventional-mitx-case-idea.1813001/ I think that layout with the PSU behind the GPU has great merit, enabling large rads, and shaving off some depth...

Hey dondan, Good luck with your new project! With the purpose of maximizing heat transfer while also maximizing surface area, you should really use 3 heatpipes at 8mm diameter: you would get more heat transferred per surface area lost for the heatpipes... Along with that, you should use direct...

Yeah I think some things are making a comeback, like in fashion, lol :D It's funny how timing is so important. Somethings introduced at the wrong time were deemed failures (or freaks), then they come back to be big hits. Tablets, large screen smartphones (Dell Streak), and AIO GPU cooling, to...

Required PCB space is not just about how much space the components take. There is the cooling consideration due to power output. Full Fiji may fit on this board, but no way you can maintain reasonable temps on the GPU, let alone the VRM. So, this card is bound to be a cut-down version of the...

I don't think anyone saw this coming. :eek: Half the power of 290X, but more powerful? Very unlike AMD, lol. Could put Nvidia in trouble if this becomes the trend. Real competition will be welcome! :)

You're missing the right angled 4-pin fan connectors at the bottom! Also, the audio circuitry seems to be isolated (better?) now. Less USB 2.0 ports, but not a big loss at all.

Another site with more pics of the new EVGA board: http://www.fashaoyou.net/Article/1543/81525.html I can read the PCIE_x8 for the last slot ;) And a video: http://hexus.net/tv/show/2015/06/New_X99_and_early_Intel_Skylake_motherboards_from_EVGA

Unless they compelled Seasonic with a large enough order size ;)