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    40TB Build Log

    I don't know if I understand what you mean. If you mean connections, I have the 2 m1015s plus the onboard 2008, for a total of 6*4 or 24 disks. Or am I misunderstanding what you are saying?
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    40TB Build Log

    Not sure if you mean technically or how well does it work, so I will answer both. Technically, I plugged in the IPMI NIC and it DHCPed. Then I just had to open a browser to that IP, log in, and I get a bunch of options. - I can see sensor readings, which shows temps for a few dozen things...
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    40TB Build Log

    Just posting an update, I finally have all the hardware, and will be building this as I have time. So far I have most of it in the chassis, and so far even though I love the density I am not sure I love the chassis. It is significantly louder than my Dell R710 and 2950, and can easily be heard...
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    generic pci card brackets, where to find?

    Sorry, I meant a generic plate. Mine would be for an M1015.
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    generic pci card brackets, where to find?

    Got my hopes up here. In your searches, do you remember seeing a low-profile option?
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    Cheap SATA adapters for VMDirectPath?

    I bought some IBM M1015s for $75 each from someone in the FS section. I believe they should pass through fine since they are LSI 2008 cards, though I can't vouch for that until I am done building my system. *Actually, it was from TypeRazor. I haven't gotten them yet, but according to the...
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    40TB Build Log

    I'll update with OS info shortly. I am going to do an ESXi all-in-one so I can make some use of the server resources for VM purposes too. If that doesn't pan out, I will probably at least make it my primary DB server and run some other stuff from it so I didn't waste the $ building it to a VM...
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    My server rebuild in the making.

    Correct, mine doesn't have expanders. I wanted to avoid them because several people have said they don't always play well with ZFS. That steered me to the board I chose because it has 2 onboard SAS ports, and 7 slots for more controllers. In your case, if you're doing a physical RAID I think...
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    OpenSolaris derived ZFS NAS/ SAN (OmniOS, OpenIndiana, Solaris and napp-it)

    Great, I look forward to seeing it. I intend to just pop a label on each one right away, so for locating a disk there will be no question.
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    OpenSolaris derived ZFS NAS/ SAN (OmniOS, OpenIndiana, Solaris and napp-it)

    I don't know yet, but intend to go the ESXi route myself. The only drawback I am concerned with is if there is any performance hit vs. physical. From all the posts I have seen, people report no noticeable slowdown. The key benefit I see is I can put small lower-priority VMs on the same host then...
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    OpenSolaris derived ZFS NAS/ SAN (OmniOS, OpenIndiana, Solaris and napp-it)

    Just to confirm, the only reason you suggest against the 2008s is that they use WWN? I just bought some, and if that's the only "problem" I think I prefer the WWN long-term anyway. But if there are other issues I want to be prepared.
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    OpenSolaris derived ZFS NAS/ SAN (OmniOS, OpenIndiana, Solaris and napp-it)

    Do you mean comparing those three to each other on ESXi, or comparing any of those with ESXi vs. without ESXi?
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    40TB Build Log

    *reserved2*
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    40TB Build Log

    *reserved*
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    40TB Build Log

    I decided to start a new thread based on my ramblings in http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1599279. This will document my build, and any issues I run across. Ironically, after a lot of back and forth on all the parts I found I chose almost the same as this person did last year...
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    My server rebuild in the making.

    Looks pretty similar to the one I just ordered, except without an external chassis. I went with the CSE-847A-R1400LPB for not much more than the 846A and can get 36 drives in 4U. Unfortunately I don't know if your motherboard would work, and your RAID would have to be low-profile too. If not for...
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    OpenSolaris derived ZFS NAS/ SAN (OmniOS, OpenIndiana, Solaris and napp-it)

    Nevermind...that was for workstation.
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    OpenSolaris derived ZFS NAS/ SAN (OmniOS, OpenIndiana, Solaris and napp-it)

    Wow, this is news to me. I am currently running 4.0, and was going to move to 4.1 with the new build. I will read up on this feature. I have 10-15 XP VMs, that were at one time cloned from each other. I imagine I will need to re-build a baseline and re-build each XP box, but they don't have...
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    OpenSolaris derived ZFS NAS/ SAN (OmniOS, OpenIndiana, Solaris and napp-it)

    Is the 32GB a blanket statement for using dedupe? I heard 1GB per TB of deduped data, so I was planning on only enabling dedupe on one folder to reduce my overall RAM consumption on my new build. I figured with just Windows vmdks, I would probably only have 2TB of deduped data that way. Also, it...
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    A few questions for my future build

    I agree that motherboard is worth it. Right now I am looking to add more controllers for my build, and prices are $250 on Amazon for the LSI 2008 cards (6Gbps). The cheapest I can get on Amazon at least is $150 and I will have to mod the card since it is UIO. For raidz, I have to defer to...
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    Another reason why paypal sucks and everyone should use Amazon

    It's worse than that. I sold a brand new X-Box on Amazon leading up to Christmas, so I got the peak value for it. After Christmas the buyer claimed it didn't work, and requested a refund. I offered to take it back, but if it worked I would return it to them. Of course it worked fine, so I tried...
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    OpenSolaris derived ZFS NAS/ SAN (OmniOS, OpenIndiana, Solaris and napp-it)

    5k3000s are not 4k drives. http://www.hitachigst.com/tech/techlib.nsf/techdocs/02D9197756A273D0862577D50024EC1D/$file/DS5K3000_ds.pdf I am looking at SAS cards right now too, and was curious if anyone has used the AOC-USAS2-L8I? It is $100 cheaper than the other 2008 cards I looked at, which...
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    *Official* Norco data storage products thread

    If anyone has been considering a 4224, I noticed NewEgg not only has 10% off, but a free BlackBerry HS-300 Bluetooth headset with purchase of one right now. I would have posted in the Deals thread, but I guess I need more posts. If anyone else feels it is worth it, you can post it over there.
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    ZFS and ESXi All in One Build

    Sorry if I missed it, but what OS did you go with? I am working on a similar project, and will have to start weighing my options.
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    Another new ESXi/ZFS build

    Updated OP. My build list is approaching $6k instead of my original $2-3k estimate, so I am going to order ASAP to avoid any further cost increases. Any last minute feedback?
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    Another new ESXi/ZFS build

    For most of your questions I have to defer to others, as this will be my first foray into ZFS. I figured I would pick out the hardware, then start messing with what the best way to assemble it is, and the best OS for it. However, here is my understanding on your points: RE: importing. It is...
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    buying drives from Amazon, how's shipping/packaging?

    I ordered 20 from Amazon the other day and the first 14 just arrived with the same packaging, all within one bigger box. I wouldn't have expected any better for OEM drives.
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    Another new ESXi/ZFS build

    Strange. It didn't show it on http://ark.intel.com/MySearch.aspx?s=t&VTD=true&FamilyText=Intel%C2%AE%20Xeon%C2%AE%20Processor. :confused:
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    Another new ESXi/ZFS build

    Yet another example of my cluelessness, I just figured out the 56xx procs do not do vt-d after all. BAck to the drawing board again. I kind of liked the 6 core idea.
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    Another new ESXi/ZFS build

    To me, what's nice about passthrough is if my ESXi or the host VM gets toasted, I should be able to load SE11 or w/e I go with onto the bare metal and import the physical disks. I don't worry so much about it being supported, although if it could go really wrong and start corrupting data I guess...
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    Another new ESXi/ZFS build

    Thanks for the warning. Since many of my VMs are nearly identical XP machines, I might opt for 2 or 4 drives mirrored, for max of 4TB. I expect to give 16GB +- to the ZFS VM.
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    Another new ESXi/ZFS build

    Since posting this thread I have spent a few hours a day reading the forum, and constantly changing my mind about hardware. Now I have less of an idea than before. If it's allowed, I would be willing to offer a donation to one of you experts to help me come up with a build. I haven't built a PC...
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    buying drives from Amazon, how's shipping/packaging?

    I am getting ready to order some for myself, but I thought I recalled seeing people complain about Amazon's packing. I think they said NewEgg was better. It doesn't matter to me, because I have Amazon GCs to use, and have Prime, so I am stuck with Amazon.
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    RAID 10 for Oracle database?

    Thanks. I already have a pretty good idea about the actual ZFS build. I was just reading more into your statement than I should have RE: raid 10 vs. RAID-Z. I'll do my own basic benchmarks to see how the difference looks when the hardware gets here I think.
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    RAID 10 for Oracle database?

    So this thread almost had me convinced to do a few disks in a raid 10 on my upcoming NAS build for mysql, until I read this post. Are you implying RAID-Z (or possibly 2 or 3z) could be a viable option when looking for good db performance? I originaly planned to do one or more volumes most...
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    ESXi 4.1U1: Passthrough for the Intel chipset on X8DT3

    I'm not sure I am following you, or I may not have been clear. I meant, I might load ESXi to the disk, then use the rest of the disk as a VMFS and install my NAS to boot from a VMDK on that VMFS volume. I am very interested in seeing some of the results of the tests you are running. I hope...
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    What are the odds on these SSDs being legit or empty cases filled with washers?

    +1. Amazon is very pro-buyer, to the point where I have been ripped off by buyers lying and abusing the A-Z. You should have no risk at all. In the extremely unlikely event Amazon does not side with you, a CC company certainly should. Knowing how much they protect buyers, I would guess the...
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    ESXi 4.1U1: Passthrough for the Intel chipset on X8DT3

    I agree on this one. I have had my ESX servers running off 2GB USB keys for a couple of years already. Unless you boot them regularly the speed should not be an issue. Since I will need a local disk for my NAS VM, I might install to the same local disks this time just because they are there. But...
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    Conundrum of getting data back

    I will preface this with, I am not much of a hardware guy. These may all be stupid suggestions. Don't most systems include CD in the boot order somewhere? I would think if you disconnected the system drive it would move on to CD (and probably network) after that won't boot. If you didn't...
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    Another new ESXi/ZFS build

    To clarify, my intent was: Load ESXi onto a usb flash drive like in my current system. Then put some sort of disk in on the onboard controller for a small datastore to house my NAS appliance. Then load OS or simillar, pass through SAS controllers, build a large NFS/ZFS share, and attach to that...
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