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I think Ablovin just has a hang up on this issue. he has the right not to like what his eyes tell him. Fortunately not everyone bases the choice in monitors soley on viewing angle. What is odd and NOT accurate for Ablovin is the fact that his screen cannot tell the difference between 250...

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I use the FW900 24" CRT Sony screens a couple SGI's versions. They are SUPERIOR to LCD's. I also use and 3 other 22" Sony screens. I do pre editing with a Samsung XL30 (the mother of LCD screens), and NEC26(the father of LCD screens). .. after doing some zoomed edits, Everything going to press...

NO. Not tested the lag. I have been using it for video and photo, and have had no lag issues. One thing that is a problem... Samsung has not made a driver for the calibration to work with Windows 7 and they have no intention of it. You would need to have a seperate drive with XP installed to...

In fact hannsG screens some are glossy

I have seen it by mfg's and they have mostly all stopped for the most part...the glare is something you might hate

I think NEC has one with LED in the size you are looking for

I would recommend LED technology. maybe see if others besides Samsung use this so you have some options.

No problem, I understand. So the monitor has no issues displaying the difference in value is good news. I wonder what settings you used to calibrate? If you had calibrated with settings close or same as mine posted earlier, I think it should expose the differnce of the values(If you open...

I am saying this from your observation that the screen you base your conclusions cannot show the difference between these to values. It should show an ever so slight difference.

yes...love those lights...I here great things about them....For that type (color corrected ambient room) of lighting, I actual use LED...hahaha, I guess I really do like the technology of things going forward. But my Creo lights are at 5500K temp and they run rather cool as these are the ones...

The life span alone will pay for itself on the XL30, LED's will outlast the 3090 x4 Within a few years your calibrations will be more and more shifted. Brightness will go down. The above I mention on most screens, I dont know how NEC does warranty backups for 5, so perhasp that is...

ah yes I see they are moving towards them...hehe. Well one thing for sure, if you do printing with any of your work, then dimming is very important for a few reasons. You dont have to tweak the monitor, its easier on the eyes(I know this maybe different if you are in and out of the room...

sorry I better read that again :-)

Viewing the turtle in CS3 its it normal RGB untagged the rectagle SHOWS...as it SHOULD. When viewing in a custom proof mode like SWOP prepress it gets blended, as it should since you are dealing with white and black emulation. What is good to know from this is that the NEC is not...

I did it at 130 Brightness: target 130=127.409 Black: target minimun = .18 rgb: target 2.2 = 2.2 Red=.677 Green=.197 Blue=.146 white=.309 CT(color temp)=6698k Delta E= 1.3 (when I used 200 as brightness this was 0.41)

i am calibrating again with brightness at 120

Ablovin for Black level there is minimum (which I picked ) and then there is the next level which is .4 cd/m2

in the Samsung manual, it says to see the NCE cd for help, and I tried, but all it has is the sw link, then the only Help I see is the text that steps you throught the cal process. In the program folder, I see the help folder but with files that end in .chm ..hmmm btw Sedluk...any issues with...

Did you look at the file I posted? The green area SHOULD show according to value numbers of the file. NOT how the file creator thought would be correct according to his monitor. I hope this makes sense. Sorry but, yes I will open the cal sw to get that info, as this screen is new to...

Ablovin, can you send me the larger version of that file?...just too small to print and make anything out of it.

although I think this is something you can adjust....hoping that is in very small increments to not blow out the rest

in case you missed the other post... Ablovin, I think this image reveals what you SHOULD be seeing on your screen vs what your NEC is not capable of showing on your screen... You see the green area? This area has a slightly deeper black value then the NON green area, so when you see...

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Ablovin, I think this image reveals what you SHOULD be seeing on your screen vs what your NEC is not capable of showing on your screen... You see the green area? This area has a slightly deeper black value then the NON green area, so when you see this on the screen, you SHOULD be able to tell...

1: Colors DO indeed look better. The SHIFT you refer to does not effect color, it is a black point or gamma variation...which is so slight, hardly worth a comment. I think this term COLOR SHIFT is incorrect...it is not a color shift in the sense that color is washed out or less saturated, when...

I would be happy to do that if you can tell me where I can read that info for you.

He balanced it according to the display he was using. That doesnt say anything. According to who and what reference point? I would be happy to if you can tell me where i can find that info

Then you will know what I should see and what I shouldnt in Proofing mode of course

I actually opened up some critical files that I had trouble with in the bpast for blacks, and they are all exposed for me to pinpoint now. You asked me if I could see the rectangle in the left lower corner, and the monitor was able to show it. the only SHIFT there is in this sample of the XL30...

InToGraphics, same line over and over again is right as Ablovin is a bit stubborn, and perhaps I am too, but we surely are not one in the same person, as I made the right choice for my usage and own the XL30. I do have an issue with the screen though. Sedluk...I calibrated mine with the...

Perhaps in the samples provided,they are not calibrated screens? Maybe they are?.... Regardless I agree that a shift in BRIGHTNESS is evident and it exists. I can provide you photographs of the difference that my screen shows in the calibrated mode with a jpeg exif data of the files...

here is the thread... http://www.hardforum.com/showthread.php?p=1033343423#post1033343423

I have posted some remarks on this thread that can help others decide according to what you use this. I do admit I have only seen the NEC for a breif time, and I have not seen it side to side or tested the NEC... but I did end up buying the XL30 :-)

I just got the XL30 (as sedluk knows from another post)...Did this start happening right away or after you had the screen for some time. I have had the screen for 3 days and had a blurp of garbage show up in the form of a horizontal line and it was mainly colored green if I remember correct as...

I have 2 of my screens on adjustable desk mounts that tilt rotate, and height adjust as needed, I tossed the desk stands, this frees up your desk completely, even if it is not much usable space as the screen still hangs over the desk, it is clear and I hav about 8inches of height scape. I might...

Sedluk...I think it is important what Ablovin points out, but as you said it is something not so important in use, but to be aware of when using. My room is usually completely dark, I thought of not using the hood, but I have 3 other monitors just next to this XL30, so I actually like the...

so to sum up our usage difference... the monitor for me is a tool, for others it is something to view as a spectator, something that gives pleasure while viewing, not an interactor.

not sure, but even the the letter L only 1 value vs the background, I see the difference..very slight, but visible.