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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    It is still programmed in micro-code (at least that's my understanding). And yes IMO when it is feasible otherwise having dedicated only hardware resolve is "dumb". But you are mixing up two things. Dedicated hardware and using the general pool of shaders for everything. You could have the...
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    ... *smash* Whoa dude, lay off the rocks or you aren't going to have any windows left in your house. :rolleyes: Dumbass.
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    Well first they are both hardware. Second yes there are serious advantages to highly flexible programmable AA. But the "dumb" I was refering to was AA that is just applied to everything, and selected from a few preset algorithms. Once apon a time AA was envisioned to be selectively applied and...
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    There is a thread on it around here. But basically all of it. ;) DX is just an API specification for the manufacturer to support calls by the OS. Technically, if someone had nothing better to do, you could even write the driver over a DX9 card to provide DX10. In that case it would be entirely...
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    Funny, I didn't include it but I addressed it. However you missed it. :o Even with a reasonable amount of AA on the 2900XT was doing well in many instances. Of course when someone used x24 AA or something similarly innane where action mattered it bogged. Or in cases of specific bugs that existed...
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    :rolleyes: Yeah, pretty much what I thought. You don't have a f*ckin' clue. WTF man. You have to turn the game halfway back DX9 to get it to do AA in "DX10". Which means no, Bioshock doesn't actually do AA in DX10 at the moment. And the hack, or whatever you want to call it requiring...
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    LOL. Well I do know for a fact that more than one person was claiming it. Sure it was stupid to say it. Exactly my point in fact. Even with a moderate amount of AA on it was sizing up nicely. But the people saying it were in total denial of the fact that the 2900XT was already showing it was a...
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    What would that understanding be based on? I'm not certain about the 8800 but it seems quite likely that the 2900XT will, at least on the AA aspects of 10.1. Still that doesn't excuse the fact that people who spend lots of money on high end cards expect decent AA support. Well it is VERY...
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    2900xt and Bioshock.

    I don't have the quote handy but a 2K guy said they pulled AA from the release because they were having trouble getting it to look good on the 8800. So no, it wasn't because of the ATI that Bioshock doesn't have DX10 AA. It is just the realities of new software for a new standard. *shrug* Keep...
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    Of course it'll catch up on DX10, like it did on DX9. Bioshock was written to the 8800. For various reasons including availability during development. Remember that Bioshock was "finished" a while back as distribution adds time and there is a settling of software at the end of development too...
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    Bit-tech tests Bioshock

    Hrmmm, were you one of the folks that suggested that for DX9 there would be no way that the 2900XT could match up with the 8800 GTX? Pooh-poohing and belittling by claiming to forsee such was to believe in "driver magic"? :rolleyes: Looks like someone at ATI hooked up with Tinkerbell, huh...
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    2900xt and Bioshock.

    From what I gather it isn't a "rootkit" at all. :rolleyes: It is just a service. A perfectly valid and very commonplace type of executable that protects the OS kernel by allowing regulated and specific admin/root type access for tasks initiated by the user. But anti-virus/anti-spyware tend to...
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    DX 10.1 in Vista SP2

    I suspect so. Also yeah, it could be in "software" for the ATI and it'd still be "hardware". Remember that all calculations on an 2900XT are capable in hardware of being done in 128-bit floating point via the shaders, including the AA.
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    2900xt and Bioshock.

    Methinks in this instance it might have something to do with prior access to the game. Or I assume such since the demo actually has an NVidia splash screen in it. ;) But what does it matter if the hotfix is out the day of or even the week of release? *shrug* Do you really think that NVidia...
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    Anyone else notice that Bioshock isnt heating up the gpu like most games ?

    The "Shock" series has always been more RPG that you shoot in rather than FPS. System Shock 2 did have multiplayer co-op but not in the intial retail release. They patched that on later. P.S. So far it looks like Bioshock is much less "rushed out" than System Shock 2, the later had a huge...
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    Can anyone tell any difference betweek dx9 and dx10 visuals in bioshock ?

    Yeah, if you paid heed to the screwball summation of HardOCP's review of the 2900XT you might preceive that. :D But parroting that tripe doesn't earn you much praise from this quarter. ;)
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    Can anyone tell any difference betweek dx9 and dx10 visuals in bioshock ?

    Bioshock DX10 feels better in motion in my experience. DX9 feels, I guess the word would be 'flatter'. More two-dimensional? Not sure how well the difference translates to screen caps or compressed video, I haven't bothered with that. I guess because I don't intend to play a "screen cap" game or...
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    2900xt and Bioshock.

    Wolfman3k5, turn off the v-sync in the graphics setting menu if you want to see >60FPS. Not that that matters much but that is why it is capping.
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    2900xt and Bioshock.

    All these people quoting Bioshock FPS and nobody can dish me the details on what I'm screwing up trying to get to the console to turn on stat fps? Are you mofos all just making up these FPS numbers? :eek: :p
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    2900xt and Bioshock.

    I would check my framerate but for some reason when I press ` it brings up the map/help/message window instead of the console. That seems to be mapped by default. So I removed it from the key mapping and still no joy. Tried TAB too. I've found the INI file for setting the Console escape key and...
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    2900xt and Bioshock.

    Went through the demo with my 2900XT(512MB), AMD X2 5600+, 2G RAM, x64 Vista. Cat 7.5 drivers (haven't gotten around to updating yet). DX10 with all the eye-candy, 1680x1050. No shudders or any noticable slowdowns but I did get a couple texture drops in places. I didn't really pay that much...
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    Upgrade 1900xtx +$200 for 2900xtx?

    BTW that card+$200 deal? Meh, if you really feel the need that's not too bad a trade-in. I only paid $450 CDN, incl. GST, for my 2900XT. So you are getting a minimum of $250 for the XTX which isn't entirely out-of-line for a used card but still low. Try watching ebay items for an idea of what...
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    Upgrade 1900xtx +$200 for 2900xtx?

    Was that a typo that you said 'XTX' in the thread title or is this one of those 1GB Sapphires? Which would still be incorrect but more understandable.
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    1 GB 2900XT on NCIX?OEM.

    That Sapphire is cheaper than the cheapest GTX on NCIX by about $60. Don't know if it comes with the Black Box coupon and connector goodies that the stock 2900XTs does. But Sapphire's waranties aren't usually that long (1 year typically) and that 10% OC, while obviously giving some processing...
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    Radeon HD 2900 XT vs. 320MB 8800 GTS @ [H]

    Oh, oh, I just love it when with people like you roll out the "people like you". LOL Fortunately I don't have to read the reviews to read and post on the boards. Or did I miss something in the Agreement when signing up for my account here? On these boards there are people that are posting...
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    Radeon HD 2900 XT vs. 320MB 8800 GTS @ [H]

    Yeah really, just stop asking. Myself personally I just bought the card and moved on to reading more reliable websites. Like this. It's worked for me. :cool:
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    Radeon HD 2900 XT vs. 320MB 8800 GTS @ [H]

    LOL Well obviously [H] isn't the site for me to read reviews since I like reviews I can take seriously. :rolleyes:
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    ATI Radeon HD 2900 XT how does it performs in the real world?

    Yeah, in the real world I just play the games instead of do a pixel by pixel evaluation. ;) Running 1680x1050. I seem to run lower AA than I've seen mentioned by many because more seems overkill (I'm talking about video cards in general). Especially for FPS where having a bit "too sharp" an...
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    2900XT 1GB GDDR4 Next Month

    NCIX has a pre-order page up for a Diamond with 1GB at $600 CDN, which is $40 cheaper than the cheapest GTX (even after factoring MIR on the GTX). EDIT: Oh, and I definately agree that direct comparison using just exchange rates, especially day-to-day ones after the US$ took such a...
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    2900XT Ain't That Bad...

    Yeah, that's a pretty good way to break it down. A really good deal on a 2900XT came my way and I went for it. I have a real adversion to MIR so the EVGA one (which did come out on the eve of the 2900XT release BTW, along with some instant rebate, just in time for them to be included in some...
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    New card 8800 or 2900?

    Yeah, the 2900XT pulls GTX levels of power under 3D load. If you've got a mediocure-to-crappy "500W" PSU it might push you past the breakpoint when playing games. The 2900XT is a little faster overall but it'll vary game to game right now, sometimes a lot faster sometimes slower. That's also...
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    New card 8800 or 2900?

    Whichever you can find a good deal on really, they are both very nice cards. I got a smokin' deal on a 2900XT and it's working well for me. I'm not sure if eVGA has that MIR promotion on their GTS640 anymore but that was a pretty damn good deal too (assuming you don't have an adversion to MIRs...
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    2900 XT, Are you Okay??

    When running 3D it does. Yeah, you likely cooked the PSU running it that close to it's limit. Just hold off the RMA till you get that new PSU in and check the card again. Unfortunately it is possible you damaged the card too because bad things can happen when PSUs go down.
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    Do you guys consider fan noise when buying?

    Silence is the sound of water. :) As others have mentioned, for the hotter cards there is no real substitute to a waterblock. It is good for your card too as it tends to keep it cooler and as a bonus a card running cooler tends to draw a bit less power!
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    getting a 8800gts soon. Should i upgrade to vista?

    I was just refering to video. EDIT: Although some it does work for some folks so you could try the lottery. Just make sure you've got a good [cheap] return option for the card.
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    getting a 8800gts soon. Should i upgrade to vista?

    Asus is a respectable brand. You just have to check which ones have the offical Vista support. That Vista optimized logo really means "yeah, we have supported drivers". You can check the mobo forum here though for suggestions. I don't feel comfortable recommending one Intel board over another...
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    Why is color correction not working for Vista games?

    Because you are using an NVidia card. Be thankful you aren't just flatout rebooting.
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    getting a 8800gts soon. Should i upgrade to vista?

    Um, if you are buying new anyway I'm not sure that is the motherboard you want to go with for Vista. I believe you'll be running [at best] beta drivers from Asus for now without offical Vista support. As well I'm not sure that's the most cost effective CPU for OCing and if you plan wasn't to OC...
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    HD 2900XT & Driver 8.38

    With a top end/average FPS like that I'll gladly take a couple of frame hit from Max and Avg if I get a couple of extra frames on Min. But yeah it is goofy having a comparison with the 320MB card (not familiar with those games, would they have been in any way RAM limited with 320MB?). I've...
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