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Intel are normally. 400mhz faster. So an AMD at 4ghz would compare to a Core 2 Duo at 3.6ghz.

Thier using the B1 core at the start which sucks. It uses too much power for the clock speeds. Wait for the B2 core thats the sweet spot as it uses much less power.

Same ive hit 1200 odd no problems but i turned the multi down as people say it can corrupt the hard drive or something. :confused:

Very good thread i also agree and say sticky.

Has it boosted any game performance???

Yer with Intel chipsets only allowing Crossfire and nvidia chipsets being the daddy on AMD. It seemed normal that it was AMD/Nvidia and Intel/ATI.

This makes it even more unclear. http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=42015

Mainly due to drivers. Its new ground for both nvidia and ati so it wil take a while to fix.

Even some dx9 games arent fully dx9. Call of Duty 2 could be played on dx7 does this mean its a dx9 slap on no. And developers arent going to make a dx10 only game due to 80% of the market still on dx9 so it would be seriously silly off them. I dont care if its dx9 with dx10 slaped on if it...

Dont care, if a certain card in my price range owns all the others, then ill have that. If nvidia and ati have 2 cards which perform equally then what ever one has the most goodies.

I hope they keep around 14 rops and dont kill too many stream proccessors.

IMO this is getting a bit too big for sff class.

Yer how much does AMD have to do to, to make you believe they have a decent core being made. Dont you want competetion??? :confused: Intel is showing that they are waiting for barcelona to launch so they can decided what clock speeds to have thier penryn cores to run at. These two cores will...

Flipping heck doubter. :rolleyes: Come on we want competetion so why are all of you shooting down amd in first sight. The poster even stated hes seen the agena cores running, plus software crossfire is possible they have done it with the 19xx series. so they dont need a bridge.

I dont belive the double the speed of a 8800gtx. It would need huge amounts of stream processors which they havent stated, high clock speeds and shader speeds.

If i was CEO i would ramp up R&D. I would keep the pace going and constantly improving the chip and not just the memory controller. AMD should of kept the ball rolling with the K8 chip but they didnt all they did was improve the mem controller, which gives about 5% more performance. The CEO has...

Good chart i would put the 2900xt in between the 8800gts 320mb and 640mb. Also the 8600gts i too high for my liking.

No ATI will come back it always happens, like with AMD they had dominace for around 3 years but INTEL came back its no different in the gpu market, ATI will come back and be the benchmark for nvidia. Nvidias lead may end with the nex generation of gpu we may never know?

6600n The end :D My dad used to be in computers but then quit, i have a few old voodoos in the loft but dont have a clue what thier numbers are.

Where did you get that picture from.

Well we will soon find out in august. Ill probally upgrade for this next year.

In the Uk for us the gap between a 8600gts overclocked (£160) and a stock 8800gts (£180) is around £20. The problem is the performance gap, if your gona buy the £160 8600gts you mite as well just get he 8800gts. As its double the performance.

No as it would make tripe fire which is not possible and the height of the card means the the crossfire connectors wont reach to the smaller 1950pro.

Hes probally saying the step down is the memory. 512mb to 256mb

This sucks why cant it be like last generation. Nvidias line up had all the areas covered, so did ATi when the 1950pro and gt were made. But now we have the huge gaps in performance and the midrange cards are no where near beating the last gen high ones.

There wont be a 8900 thier going straight on to the 9xxx series. With the g92 core.

The r600 is getting better with aa with the new 7.6 drivers and the 7.7 will carry on the trend of increasing performance every month unlike nvidias drivers which release randomly and not regularly.

Why do you all think that the r600 is bad, the new 7.6 cats have shown its getting faster every time, it may even be a competitor to the 8800GTX.

Wow seems like ddr4 rules. But only one dvi port??

The 8600gt is on par with the 7600gt. Maybe his psu isnt upto the job of a 8800gts

That 12v rail is a bit high isnt it???

Wow they are huge.

SLI and corssfire would on same motherboard. For an MATX motherboard i would like to see SLI or Crossfire.

Cant wait for the pictures :cool:

this looks cool :cool:

i would move the side fan closer to the end as alot of heat is out putted through the 3 slits in the cooler

i think he meant 74gb raptors

does any body know the specs of the hd 2600xt and how will it compare to the 8600gts

ever since ive seen back to the future 1,2,3 i like the shape of the delorean :confused:

a person on this forum has a mm case with a server on oine side and a gaming machine on the other