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I understand that.

Jurisprudence within a country doesn't change, you can have different steps per state but over all they all have the same theory.

That is also not what Kyle stated, he stated lawsuits are pending, if he is correct on this end, damages have been done.

Why would they go to the public if its was going to damage the case, there is no such thing as creating a ruckus in the media to help their lawsuit, its never looks good at all in the eyes of the judge. judge doesn't care about who has money man, they are supposed to be impartial, that is why...

Ironically or fortuitously in this case, one of the attorneys, used the same thing I was getting at when all this took place in the other thread. Ex parte injunction (he called it ex parte seizure) can be damaged by going to the press prior to a lawsuit commencing. This is particularly...

They have to be in the lead. This is what I stated, AMD must have talked to their attorneys first before they went fishing to the public, and by fishing they don't have enough info to go to trial at least not yet. What my attorneys stated was yeah they should control how the information is...

how is there bias when the people I talked to and posted don't even know the companies involved?

No because those posts were deleted in the GPP thread, since everyone there stated I was talking out of my ass and the response to that I told them I will talk to my corporate attorneys to get a definitive answer on this type of situation.

I have been a long time support of [H] and Kyle as many of you know. And still am. With the recent GPP program, I can not support Kyle on this particular way of doing things. I have consulted my corporate attorneys on this matter and they have stated the same things I have stated in the GPP...

how is Delco relevant in this, it was a subsidiary of GM wasn't it? GM OWNED Delco. Of course Delco couldn't tell GM how to market GM cars lol. The problem is nV designs the cards too, they give the specs to the AIB's to make their cards so the boards worth their GPU's. AIB's can't make...

I'm not saying its ok, I'm saying they can do it if they want to and they are trying to do it with GPP. Take me out of the picture please. This isn't about me, this is about what nV thinks they want to do with THEIR BRAND. As a consumer, we have no choice about it man. If nV doesn't want to...

editing the post, keep going, yeah they do they have a lot of things to say about branding of their products. Without nV or AMD, ROG, ASUS, has no graphics card sales division, no graphics cards period. If nV or AMD doesn't like a branding of a particular AIB, they can just say sorry we aren't...

If ASUS, puts nV's brand with AMD's brand in the same ROG brand, yeah then all three have say on what goes in the ROG brand. But ASUS better be fully aware if the product owners are not happen about the ROG brand, the better change it their liking otherwise..... The ROG brand means nothing...

So you don't think a commercial lawyer pointing to over 10 different cases saying the same thing I stated, means anything? In black and white its right there.

https://www.isba.org/ibj/2012/01/thedangersoflitigatinginthemedia This is from a commercial ligation, corporate lawyer. No one in the court system likes this stuff, because if there is any inkling of feeling of being influenced, they throw the stuff out.

Monday I'll ask my corporate lawyers, and see what they say ok? I can pull up law firms by google search that say don't talk to the press so...... If they are advertising what you should and should not do with their involvement lol, guess what. For what kind of law, personal injury...

Seriously you didn't even look this up did you? https://www.americanbar.org/publications/litigation_journal/2012_13/spring/social-media-transformation.html Yeah internet is a huge ass problem, the public is a huge ass problem with all these things the information is so widely available because...

This is what I'm wary about, but Kyle is not one to go out on a limb like that. He stated to me and everyone lawsuits are pending, as we have read in this thread, there has to be something there for him to say that. Also why would it be multiple lawsuits? To me that doesn't seem like AMD is...

Again this isn't about me, you can ask any lawyer about this they will say the exact same thing, don't even need to be a lawyer to know these things. Staying away from media is the first thing anyone should do when prepping for a law suit, doesn't matter if its tort law or criminal law, the...

HD29xx the line that came right after the buy out, pretty much what ATi was working on to go up against the g80 :)

whistle blowers lose their cases most of the time because of improper filings, in this case with AMD involved they will do it the right way (or at least I thought they would, maybe they can't even do that right lol). Because well they have the money and resources and the right attorneys to do...

If ATi wasn't bought out, I think they would be dead, the r600 would have killed them. If it wasn't for the AMD's CPU cash flow there would have been no way for graphics to keep going.

Look last thing, the program has just started or when did it start? So how the hell are lawsuits pending, when damages aren't even done yet. Can't have a lawsuit without damages! Are lawsuits really pending or is this something that is being assumed will happen. Btw, there must be evidence...

evidence in this type of case, they don't need to mention where they got the evidence from, not to get an injunction. Fruit of the poisonous tree is pretty much what you are talking about and what i was getting at, by going out to the public the evidence becomes tainted, my understanding is...

I agree it would be nice to know more about this lol. They have to abide by the rules and regulations of the country they are selling in. Doesn't matter where their headquarters are. I don't know the logistics of international laws, cause that will also take part in something like this too...

Err the thing with these types of cases there is some overlap, its called commercial speech, but yeah its not very concrete at best. Its not governed by the 1st amendment directly. But it can fall into it depending on how its being used. Its weird like that, complicated...

If they want to sell their products here they have to.

He has credibility, I have stated this too, the program the way its outlined seems like it can be used for something more, but right now, its probably not, because AMD wouldn't have taken the route it did. The problem here is people are calling foul, without understanding the reasons for why...

We don't know the terms of the program, nor does Kyle. AMD how ever does, they must know it, they know what is happening to their AIB partners, there is NO FUCKIN way around that, they wouldn't go out to try to get others to look into it if they didn't know what is in there. Can you understand...

Ironically that is the same excuse I have heard others say about Gameworks lol.

I know how these things work, I don't know the full details of these programs, go check my post to a moderator of this very forum about my background. Public hearsay hurts a companies court case if there are grounds for such a case. No sane attorney will tell AMD go talk to the public about...

Yes they should have it they should have even more evidence that Kyle or any tech journalist can gather for years to come, already. Going public doesn't work, there are no ramifications when you go public to any one if something being done is illegal. Not only that it diminishes your standing...

Not saying going to trail, and injunction is not going to trial. You are talking about settlement, I'm not talking about that. The purpose of an injunction is stop anything from changing at a single point in time so the right information can be gathered to go to trial.

Its extremely important, AMD knows full well the program isn't illegal, they know the ins and outs of the program, they know how their AIB's which are the same AIB's that are in this program are reacting and know what and when those changes occurred, yet they went to public instead of outright...

That is not smart at all, because there is big money involved. Going to the press is a last resort, its a cry for help from the masses, masses are sheep, sheep don't have much unless they all pool together. As a company that could have confounded factors that will hurt them, its not something...

AMD graphics for gaming is pretty much tits up already for intensive purposes ;) and is going to remain so for another couple of gens. The don't have any leverage in the pro markets, no leverage in DL/HPC, no leverage in PC gaming. Do you know what this will do to consoles, if nV can do...

A company that cries foul, that can't get their attorneys to do the talking for them, it all comes down to one thing, they know they are screwed and they know they can't do shit about it.

Intel couldn't use nV not the way Kaby Lake G was designed, it was made with HBM in mind, the only company that would put a low end GPU with such memory would be AMD. It was a tactical reason for Intel to choose AMD, because nV wouldn't do such a design. PS this is desperation on AMD's part...

I don't use nice hash for that single reason, they are paying me back though which until its fully paid I won't touch em. Even the nice hash calculator doesn't give Vega higher than 1080ti so...... I do multi mining with multiple pools and profit switching, that is much more profitable than...

err no its not Its right around the gtx 1080ti, check what to mine ;) I get around 2 to 2.50 a gtx 1080ti, Vega is under 2 to 2 ;).