The Fall of NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang

HockeyJon said:
https://www.pcworld.com/article/328...a-on-gamers-ai-made-them-an-afterthought.html



Heads up to the gamers who are dancing a jig with glee at Jensen getting pushed out, as if this was somehow going to help the gaming market. I've read several articles and commentaries from people within the industry who said that GeForce is still hanging on primarily because Jensen has a personal connection to it. I don't think the bean counters who are going to take over will care nearly as much. Jensen out at Nvidia hurts gamers more than it helps.
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Meh, that gaming side of Jensen is long gone. He's been all about squeezing as much money as possible for Nvidia before the dominos start to fall, which seems to have started
 
III_Slyflyer_III said:
I honestly feel like BOTH of these could be true here...
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I'm not a conspiracy theorist by default, but it's hard to ignore the fact that there's a lot of moving parts here, and a lot at stake for a lot of people in power. I mean you have an election in the US where the more AI-skeptical party takes control of Congress and all of a sudden this all comes out? Something that has apparently been going on for some time? Even the spy thing has not been proven from what I've read, it was an "anonymous source" who leaked a document. Nvidia's board didn't spend much time investigating what went on with an issue involving their most important employee. It's all...interesting.
 
HockeyJon said:
I'm not a conspiracy theorist by default, but it's hard to ignore the fact that there's a lot of moving parts here, and a lot at stake for a lot of people in power. I mean you have an election in the US where the more AI-skeptical party takes control of Congress and all of a sudden this all comes out? Something that has apparently been going on for some time? Even the spy thing has not been proven from what I've read, it was an "anonymous source" who leaked a document. Nvidia's board didn't spend much time investigating what went on with an issue involving their most important employee. It's all...interesting.
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Don't disagree. The second and third affairs may not have been well known in those circles but his affair with the "spy" was well known for a year and nobody did anything about it openly. The fact that this is all snowballing now leads me to believe one of two things.

1) People outside those "in the know" recently found out and now they're doing a big data dump via various sources to "get ahead of things" and distract from how long they knew about the "spy" situation.
2) Someone with an agenda decided now was the time to hang Jensen with the rope he provided and so they started dropping information via anonymous sources forcing legit sources to acknowledge them.

People might find out in time which is true but by then this will have long passed from the public's interest.
 
Mellanox the Israel company Nvidia had bought is used for AI Data Centers. Can we get Lisa Su to take over Nvidia? She's family after all. Unless she was caught cheating as well?
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DukenukemX said:
Mellanox the Israel company Nvidia had bought is used for AI Data Centers. Can we get Lisa Su to take over Nvidia? She's family after all. Unless she was caught cheating as well?
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Maybe Kress started all this in revenge for Huang calling her "deer in the headlights" in front of other executives in August. Two months later Huang's dirty laundry get aired in public.
 
kac77 said:
Yep except you could actually buy their video cards at not outrageous prices. So basically those comments are from pissed off nVidia buyers. Most 5070 Ti's are out of stock with the cheapest running you $1400. At the end of the day the consumers play a huge role in how things shake out. If you're going to reward a company that's actively in the lead for screwing you and you keep buying you can't blame the second or even third runner up when the consumer dictates the order of those purchases.
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For awhile I've felt that Nvidia exiting desktop GPU's would be a win for gamers in the long term because it would create a vacuum that AMD and Intel could fill along with potentially others. AMD and Intel have basically given up attempting to compete at the high end because of how market dominate Nvidia is, and Nvidia is sticking it to customers with shit YOY improvements and terrible pricing because of that dominance.

That said, I also believe the talk of publishers potentially moving games to streaming only platforms a legitimate concern because of 1) How easy it is now to pirate games with AI and 2) How expensive hardware has gotten.

That said, I think #2 concern will correct itself once AI bubble burst and/or more manufacturers get into the market if AI sticks around this level of growth.
 
WorldExclusive said:
I’ve been gone from this forum for a while but needed to log back in to celebrate with everyone here. We been through some really tough gaming times because of this guy.
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Replacing Jesen isn't going to change anything. If there's anything to look forward to then it's when the AI bubble pops then Jesen won't be around to come up with another idea to fuel Nvidia outside of gamers. Jensen was the guy who fueled the crypto booms since 2013 and moved over to AI when crypto wasn't profitable. The part I'm not looking forward to is watching the new CEO employ people outside of the United States to engineer their chips. Jensen Huang made it clear he employs Americans and keeps most of the engineering in good old USA. Intel for example doesn't engineer all their chips in USA and they are paying for that mistake.
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DukenukemX said:
If there's anything to look forward to then it's when the AI bubble pops then Jesen won't be around to come up with another idea to fuel Nvidia outside of gamers.
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Well you're gonna be disappointed then because the idea of 'GPUs being only for gaming, ever' - that ship sailed the moment GPUs were used and shown to be good for things, anything, outside of gaming - Jensen or no Jensen.
 
kram182 said:
Well you're gonna be disappointed then because the idea of 'GPUs being only for gaming, ever' - that ship sailed the moment GPUs were used and shown to be good for things, anything, outside of gaming - Jensen or no Jensen.
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Not disagreeing with you but eventually AMD, Intel, and maybe some Chinese company will emerge to become a good alternative to Nvidia. Nvidia holds a dominant market position when it comes to AI, but AI will crash and Nvidia won't see the same volume of chip sales as they do right now. Nvidia will still sell more chips that isn't gaming related, but that's never good enough. Jensen would have been exploring new markets that he could apply Nvidia chips. People don't get how long Jensen has been running Nvidia. Back when the Sega Saturn was a thing, we saw Sega invest $5 million into Nvidia because Nvidia's first chip was based on quads. A lot of people weren't even sperm in their fathers balls when he started to run Nvidia. You'll never get another CEO like Jensen for Nvidia, and that may not benefit gamers in the long run.
 
kram182 said:
Well you're gonna be disappointed then because the idea of 'GPUs being only for gaming, ever' - that ship sailed the moment GPUs were used and shown to be good for things, anything, outside of gaming - Jensen or no Jensen.
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Clearly someone needs to get on the idea of specific hardware, the way GPU bitcoin mining was replaced by ASICs.
 
1_rick said:
Clearly someone needs to get on the idea of specific hardware, the way GPU bitcoin mining was replaced by ASICs.
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But you're not gonna know what specific hardware you need to make until you've already been using GPUs to do it first and for a while
 
was this already mentioned?

“Nvidia Employees Petition For Jensen Huang's Return​

Anonymous Coward 4 hours ago		57
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Wired: Some Nvidia employees are calling for Jensen Huang's return even after his multiple reported extramarital affairs and abrupt resignation, according to internal correspondence reviewed by WIRED. An internal "suggestion box" post submitted before Huang's resignation by a longtime engineer at Nvidia urged the company's board to take employee sentiment into consideration prior to taking any action. The submission has attracted more than 1,600 comments since then, with several asking board members to find a way to bring back Huang.

"If you believe in the mission, bring back THE boss," wrote one anonymous commenter. "We are all humans and can make mistakes. Jensen did so many good things and he needs a second chance," wrote another. One employee went as far as sending a companywide email demanding transparency into Huang's exit. "I stand by Jensen," the staffer wrote. "Not because I believe any person is infallible, but because I refuse to believe that standing for fairness must mean standing at a distance from someone whose leadership has meant so much to us."

[...] It's been business as usual inside the company throughout this week, but Huang's resignation left many employees stunned. In the hours after, about two dozen employees posted on LinkedIn in support of Huang, with one describing their faith in his leadership as unwavering. Over the same period, WIRED couldn't identify any posts from Nvidia employees in support of his resignation. One employee who has been at Nvidia for a couple of years and wasn't authorized to speak publicly says they perceive the desire for Huang's reinstatement as widespread. They worry the company will eventually suffer without its founder at the helm and say that the board must bring him back. "Nvidia is Nvidia because of Jensen," the employee tells WIRED.

Many employees had expected a board investigation to conclude before any big changes would occur. For instance, the suggestion-box post called on the board to share its findings with employees and formally solicit their sentiment "about Jensen's continuing as our CEO." Instead, Huang left just as the inquiry had begun. Staffers are seeking to better understand why. "If America fails the man who helped build its future," the employee in the companywide email stated, "then this world does not deserve Jensen Huang."”
 
erek said:
was this already mentioned?

“Nvidia Employees Petition For Jensen Huang's Return​

Anonymous Coward 4 hours ago		57
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Wired: Some Nvidia employees are calling for Jensen Huang's return even after his multiple reported extramarital affairs and abrupt resignation, according to internal correspondence reviewed by WIRED. An internal "suggestion box" post submitted before Huang's resignation by a longtime engineer at Nvidia urged the company's board to take employee sentiment into consideration prior to taking any action. The submission has attracted more than 1,600 comments since then, with several asking board members to find a way to bring back Huang.

"If you believe in the mission, bring back THE boss," wrote one anonymous commenter. "We are all humans and can make mistakes. Jensen did so many good things and he needs a second chance," wrote another. One employee went as far as sending a companywide email demanding transparency into Huang's exit. "I stand by Jensen," the staffer wrote. "Not because I believe any person is infallible, but because I refuse to believe that standing for fairness must mean standing at a distance from someone whose leadership has meant so much to us."

[...] It's been business as usual inside the company throughout this week, but Huang's resignation left many employees stunned. In the hours after, about two dozen employees posted on LinkedIn in support of Huang, with one describing their faith in his leadership as unwavering. Over the same period, WIRED couldn't identify any posts from Nvidia employees in support of his resignation. One employee who has been at Nvidia for a couple of years and wasn't authorized to speak publicly says they perceive the desire for Huang's reinstatement as widespread. They worry the company will eventually suffer without its founder at the helm and say that the board must bring him back. "Nvidia is Nvidia because of Jensen," the employee tells WIRED.

Many employees had expected a board investigation to conclude before any big changes would occur. For instance, the suggestion-box post called on the board to share its findings with employees and formally solicit their sentiment "about Jensen's continuing as our CEO." Instead, Huang left just as the inquiry had begun. Staffers are seeking to better understand why. "If America fails the man who helped build its future," the employee in the companywide email stated, "then this world does not deserve Jensen Huang."”
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so at this juncture, do we or do we not care about what the remaining nvidia's ermployees think?
 
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erek said:

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YYU_geUwQoA
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Listened to it earlier while working. Garbage video really, only made to accrue views. The video focuses on legally sold Hopper chips and completely ignores the actual issue -- China's millions of Blackwell class chips they have which have been imported illegally. If you've been following the news on those, we know how they're going in and where they're coming from, leading right back to Jensen. They were sold to numerous asian countries where they were blackwell chips labeled as hopper chips in the pallets, sku's, shipping manifests, etc. Had they went up the chain to see who approved that, the video would have been watchable. But look out, the president owns the equivalent of me owning $500 in Nvidia stock so it must be a conspiracy. :ROFLMAO:
 
w1retap said:
Listened to it earlier while working. Garbage video really, only made to accrue views. The video focuses on legally sold Hopper chips and completely ignores the actual issue -- China's millions of Blackwell class chips they have which have been imported illegally. If you've been following the news on those, we know how they're going in and where they're coming from, leading right back to Jensen. They were sold to numerous asian countries where they were blackwell chips labeled as hopper chips in the pallets, sku's, shipping manifests, etc. Had they went up the chain to see who approved that, the video would have been watchable. But look out, the president owns the equivalent of me owning $500 in Nvidia stock so it must be a conspiracy. :ROFLMAO:
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appreciate the insight, i haven’t watched it myself

i was skeptical as they were hyping up the suspense with their two youtube posts before it dropped

just felt like they missed on this one
 
erek said:
was this already mentioned?

“Nvidia Employees Petition For Jensen Huang's Return​

Anonymous Coward 4 hours ago		57
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Wired: Some Nvidia employees are calling for Jensen Huang's return even after his multiple reported extramarital affairs and abrupt resignation, according to internal correspondence reviewed by WIRED. An internal "suggestion box" post submitted before Huang's resignation by a longtime engineer at Nvidia urged the company's board to take employee sentiment into consideration prior to taking any action. The submission has attracted more than 1,600 comments since then, with several asking board members to find a way to bring back Huang.

"If you believe in the mission, bring back THE boss," wrote one anonymous commenter. "We are all humans and can make mistakes. Jensen did so many good things and he needs a second chance," wrote another. One employee went as far as sending a companywide email demanding transparency into Huang's exit. "I stand by Jensen," the staffer wrote. "Not because I believe any person is infallible, but because I refuse to believe that standing for fairness must mean standing at a distance from someone whose leadership has meant so much to us."

[...] It's been business as usual inside the company throughout this week, but Huang's resignation left many employees stunned. In the hours after, about two dozen employees posted on LinkedIn in support of Huang, with one describing their faith in his leadership as unwavering. Over the same period, WIRED couldn't identify any posts from Nvidia employees in support of his resignation. One employee who has been at Nvidia for a couple of years and wasn't authorized to speak publicly says they perceive the desire for Huang's reinstatement as widespread. They worry the company will eventually suffer without its founder at the helm and say that the board must bring him back. "Nvidia is Nvidia because of Jensen," the employee tells WIRED.

Many employees had expected a board investigation to conclude before any big changes would occur. For instance, the suggestion-box post called on the board to share its findings with employees and formally solicit their sentiment "about Jensen's continuing as our CEO." Instead, Huang left just as the inquiry had begun. Staffers are seeking to better understand why. "If America fails the man who helped build its future," the employee in the companywide email stated, "then this world does not deserve Jensen Huang."”
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I don't know why Jensen stepped down? Yes he cheated but that's his personal problem. If that personal problem happen to get a lot of Nvidia chips into China then that's a different story. It's not like he was at Epstein's Island or an Activation Employee who drank breast milk and hanged out in the Bill Cosby room. He had an affair which is like 20% of Americans.


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