Should i upgrade my 2600x/x470 combo? or get another board?

my "cheap" asus prime and tuf boards (b550/b450) had more features and full three point voltage control...

DogsofJune said:

No, not all B450's are like that. The ones I owned were pretty full featured. Your's seems really.... cheap.

Good luck though.

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yeah i hope it does have good luck I know what you mean its still an on sale board.

its the dims though or a damaged cpu/internal memory controller i just don't think they have the quality or built like my vega56..thats still built like some older really good quality.

jspinks231 said:

its the dims though or a damaged cpu/internal memory controller i just don't think they have the quality or built like my vega56..thats still built like some older really good quality.

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You get what you pay for. $70 mainboard vs. $400 (when new) higher end vid card from 2017. Still plenty of good quality computer parts around. They just cost more. That said you can't get too nice on a new DDR4 board these days. Seems like the best you can do is B760 (Intel LGA 1700) or B550 (AMD AM4).

zandor said:

You get what you pay for. $70 mainboard vs. $400 (when new) higher end vid card from 2017. Still plenty of good quality computer parts around. They just cost more. That said you can't get too nice on a new DDR4 board these days. Seems like the best you can do is B760 (Intel LGA 1700) or B550 (AMD AM4).

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thats about the only other thing i want to buy right now the sale bargain on a 100 dollar b550 and the 100doallar ryzen 5 5500 chip. or even cheaper they had some bundles like only 160-170 with the asrock or gigabyte..I bought basically the same thing or idea a 70 dollar board on sale built like still like a 100 dollar board. i'm impressed still hasn't missed a beat but yeah the memory buggy stuff is kinda lame but no complaints on the purchase and update how its doing for first new build in 10 years its running the gpu's good and drives working well with old sata connectors stuff like that...the nvme port dosen't need an intel rst driver or anything like that to display the nvme. so its being cool...its just me though i like how i can get more cheaper parts for a couple 200-300 dollars.

stop trying to blow smoke up your own ass, its a cheap chinese board that youre having problems with and is lacking basic function. its a built like a $50 board. it didnt even come with a fucking cmos battery...

pendragon1 said:

stop trying to blow smoke up your own ass, its a cheap chinese board that youre having problems with and is lacking basic function. its a built like a $50 board. it didnt even come with a fucking cmos battery...I'm

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I have no problems with it lol don't be hater of good 10-15% sales blowout I been building my builds with the sales blowouts. I came across some cheap memory big deal something else still boots in it and no does not do that and no its not a 50 dollar board its a 100 dollar kit board on sale..and good tech with cmos is easy i put a 4 dollar quality child shield cmos battery in it. it really doesn't matter and will run like a 100 dollar board.

I cant help that hater console pleb probaly it is that custom and complicated of technology hes obviously uneducated i can't post anyways an 8gb stick in bank 1 you were never suppose to now some 4gb dimms might very well post in bank 1 with memory training...its reason like why yeah an 8gb dim posts in bank 2 yes it does work that way and to clarify...its clearly just older and a lot unsupported memory..no it doesn't matter xmp matters more and is cooler so it don't matter an 8gb stick will post in bank 2 cause the bios tell it to and hand off when it knows bank 1 is empty...youd have to send me your build and everything and id have hard clr cmos all that..its really no big deal if it never botherd your user needs don't worry about let it post in bank 2.

What?

your making me laugh with this board cause you have to post in side by side rank and that puts it in single rank...but you still have xmp and thats working side by side just some benchmarks are dumb as hell and can't see it.

applegrcoug said:

not only that, the x470 is theoretically superior to a b450 board.

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Depends....
I had an MSI B470 Gaming....a very good board but my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC was a much nicer board, with much better components and superior cooling.

Saabjock said:

Depends....
I had an MSI B470 Gaming....a very good board but my MSI B450 Gaming Pro Carbon AC was a much nicer board, with much better components and superior cooling.

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Yes, there were some weaker X470 boards with poor VRMs and inadequate VRM cooling. I used to have a B450M Steel Legend, and it handled a Ryzen 2700X quite well, though I didn't have a particularly good cooler. I’ve since upgraded to a more robust B550M Steel Legend paired with a Thermalright PA120 SE, and it now cools a 5600X without any issues.

Strange bird said:

Yes, there were some weaker X470 boards with poor VRMs and inadequate VRM cooling. I used to have a B450M Steel Legend, and it handled a Ryzen 2700X quite well, though I didn't have a particularly good cooler. I’ve since upgraded to a more robust B550M Steel Legend paired with a Thermalright PA120 SE, and it now cools a 5600X without any issues.

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Yes too many it’s a shill board cause of aliexpress and Temu..but it actually is quite well and benching quite, there just that many haters of the low man and china but it came nicely boxed and everything the anti static bag was even of quality…my example the I/o shield didn’t fit the zalman raven though but it’s a cheap diy case some stuff don’t measure up right and just run it without the back brackets that can all come off.

Dont listen to the haters their the same ones that bash and slam a good diy case too…they never put nothing together in they life I know…

English isn't your first language is it?

jspinks231 said:

shill

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"this crappy chinesium motherboard that is missing key features and physical pieces, is great!!!"

I have a twisted desire to see the advanced and OC pages. It looks like the board has less features than boards from decades ago.

Well, if I decipher correctly, there is no dual bank ram happening on that board?

B450' are a few generations back. Wasn't a B450 introduced in 2018?

I owned a few boards with that chipset and really liked them. In fact, I kinda wish I could get my hands on an itx variant for some spare parts I have in a bin.
As much as I would like to score one, I would only get one that doesn't have missing features on it. I had more than one board that needed some subtle tweaking to get ddr4 ram faster than 3200 to work, in both banks.

For the record sir, I cobbled together all of my PC's and have since the early 90's. So no need for the lashing out.

There is budget hardware and then there is straight junk knockoff stuff.

If it works for you cool, but it doesn't sound like it's all up and running efficiently.

Hard to sift through your posts for an accurate response on what you have going on there.

DogsofJune said:

Well, if I decipher correctly, there is no dual bank ram happening on that board?

B450' are a few generations back. Wasn't a B450 introduced in 2018?

I owned a few boards with that chipset and really liked them. In fact, I kinda wish I could get my hands on an itx variant for some spare parts I have in a bin.
As much as I would like to score one, I would only get one that doesn't have missing features on it. I had more than one board that needed some subtle tweaking to get ddr4 ram faster than 3200 to work, in both banks.

For the record sir, I cobbled together all of my PC's and have since the early 90's. So no need for the lashing out.

There is budget hardware and then there is straight junk knockoff stuff.

If it works for you cool, but it doesn't sound like it's all up and running efficiently.

Hard to sift through your posts for an accurate response on what you have going on there.

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I have problems with E and b die micron ballstix idk that kit isn’t liked about it no it won’t post bank b but it will Bank and xmp works in Bank A…so it don’t entirely work correctly but close enough…of course not lash out or mean anything that way…im just having some long days and been getting over a minor cold…and feel more god fearing and hope you just as well with the mission bible i found at my local thrift…and i hold it close and study my age and take that higher path and road..i think theres evil and more satans minions are amongst us…and I wish you well and the pages I’m here to help too as much as I can…I been building off and on for years…and sounds like my relationship with good lord and building up how spiritual I am.

But yeah hope it can wish you well and brings peace.

Maybe you have some crappy Chinese motherboard. It’s better to buy a decent B450—if any are still available—or a B550 from ASRock, MSI, ASUS, or Gigabyte.

I once had a Chinese motherboard paired with an Intel Xeon processor (I believe it was a Xeon comparable to an i5-750, though with lower clock speeds). The motherboard was actually quite good, and the system ran perfectly without any issues. As I recall, the board had a small form factor—likely mATX.

Strange bird said:

Maybe you have some crappy Chinese motherboard. It’s better to buy a decent B450—if any are still available—or a B550 from ASRock, MSI, ASUS, or Gigabyte.

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I probaly should have. But they weren’t really available new the Asrock hdv or ac2.0 was hard to find new was some used examples…and the Asus prime 450m was also hard to find new..so I was just buying something new that was available…yeah it’s a shill board something that was 70 dollars on sale..and something alliexpress still has and they sell it pretty cheap with the sister green two slot machinist board…it’s doing quite well actually been playing eso 5 dollars standard base game with it quite a bit…

And would describe it as good coffee cigars and ciggarettes build..but it posted right away with the child shield CMOs battery.

Its just o well let be the chinaesium that it is and may not boot post certain kits in it or you need a non Intel xmp native jedec speed kit to boot in it..a lot maybe was not guarantee past the 2133/2400 jedec speed..no sense in fighting it wont don’t bank b post it will with in bank A.

I’d describe that real well just like cigarettes and don’t care how it does you know..it looks great on hwinfo64 and the software does run the full 97-100amper EDC limit with my Apevia Galaxy 650w unit.

I’ve had pretty good luck with this mediocre example and attractive looks gold rated unit..and it’s built more like the better Andyson units…it’s still a mix of tier 2/3 capacitors but it hasn’t let me down like the Jupiter or the beast Apevias…Apevia got a lot better and did away with that Deer quality that was pretty bad Solytech stuff…those units will trip or fan trips at like 3 years…so this one has held out on me

Yes my next purchase or if upgrade to generation 3 Ryzen or the 5500 I’d like to get a Asus or gigabyte board and probaly do better with ram kits…it’s only downside but I have pretty good gpu with 8gb hbm2 with the vega56. As you can the Vega is in excellent shape I retimed it and replaced it with the 6 dollar blue silicone pad kits you can buy..it was pretty worn out and black screening when it had got to me used for 220.

So yeah what it looks like another day in the office the crate amp and blackie Strat sounding good for some office stuff..the clean ch1 3 band eq sounds great with some jazz and bell jingle Strat tones..I jam in the room standing up with my strap on quite often.

Good god son..... Wow.......


Also, if you can't get dual channel ram to work correctly, aren't you leaving a lot of performance on the table? 10-25%?

Your 1% will suffer in games, Frame drops and a bit of microstutter up to 30 to 40%?

DogsofJune said:

Good god son..... Wow.......


Also, if you can't get dual channel ram to work correctly, aren't you leaving a lot of performance on the table? 10-25%?

Your 1% will suffer in games, Frame drops and a bit of microstutter up to 30 to 40%?

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I haven’t been stuttering at all it’s very small the difference with my vega56 now I do with the sorry card 2gb r9 270 that card just don’t have the horsepower…it’s very small in games like 1% on the frame minimums it’s barely noticeable with a good card…I have enough headroom with the 2600x at the 4200 frequency and coupled with the vega56…AM4 has been really good about not stuttering, stuttering AMD was am3 socket…now that was bad my 8320 and 6300 both stuttered on my Asrock fatality 970.

DogsofJune said:

Good god son..... Wow.......


Also, if you can't get dual channel ram to work correctly, aren't you leaving a lot of performance on the table? 10-25%?

Your 1% will suffer in games, Frame drops and a bit of microstutter up to 30 to 40%?

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I don’t use enough or get on that much to matter…well I was feeling nauseous all day yesterday now today I’ve felt better and been able to enjoy some coffee..hope your doing well..I find there’s Thomas Nelson has helped me and maybe the Good Lord looking out out so cheers..maybe the Thomas Nelson can help you