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Gears of War: E-Day

I have to wonder for those like you that remain completely ignorant to the propoganda though; where's the line for you to not play a game as long as the "game play is good and that's all that matters"?

Propaganda is the systematic sharing of biased, selective, or misleading information designed to influence public opinion and promote a specific cause or point of view
 
Propaganda is the systematic sharing of biased, selective, or misleading information designed to influence public opinion and promote a specific cause or point of view
Indeed.

Now tell me what you think their completely intentional choice of placing a black lesbian into this infantry squad with men twice her size is? You don't think there's anything misleading or any promotion of ideas going on there?

I'll leave this here too just to make things completely irrefutable. You just need to see the first 90 seconds of it.


View: https://youtu.be/oxmwA-LtP-Y?is=pmUYKUUBY8Ls0KY8
 
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Indeed.

Now tell me what you think their completely intentional choice of placing a black lesbian into this infantry squad with men twice her size is? You don't think there's anything misleading or any promotion of ideas going on there?

so you're saying that the developers are trying to get players to turn into lesbians?...do you ever ask those same questions when developers use straight Caucasian males in their video games?...what are they trying to promote with that?...or is this only an issue when a minority or gay person is involved?
 
Well most western game studios (and media in general) have been idealogically captured by this leftist propoganda so I'll likely not play any more from them at least. But I'm confident that since most of the Asian/eastern studios (noteably Capcom who has been dominating western studios for year now) have resisted it at this point, I'll be able to enjoy their games for the forseeable future. But there are also more indy studios now more than ever that are encroching on western studio's market share since they're not building games within their HR's DEI constraints and by committees who think we're all idiots that need arrows, lines, and paint to show us where to go in an already on-rails linear game.

I have to wonder for those like you that remain completely ignorant to the propoganda though; where's the line for you to not play a game as long as the "game play is good and that's all that matters"?

What if these bloated western games studios were constantly making games with Christian white-male protagonsists that only fought against blacks and minorities while preaching about how great God is all the time? Would you still play that as long as the graphics were good and the game play was adequate? Every time I see a minority woman in a role only a male could do or an LGBT insert that would have definitely killed themselves or died in any apocolype situation, that's them saying "God is good, go with God!" to me. That's how I see this garbage. It's a religion to them because they otherwise have no religion and I don't want to be preached to in games where I just want to shoot things and see numbers go up to have a good time.

What the fuck haha

How do you actually live your life like this
 
so you're saying that the developers are trying to get players to turn into lesbians?
No, just preach that they're as capable as men serving as infantry or any other male-dominated role.

I might have been ok if they put her in a support role she could believably performed in. But no, she has to be one of the men. 🙄

Now answer my question.
do you ever ask those same questions when developers use straight Caucasian males in their video games
No, because that's the largest demographic of gamers by far even if they don't want to admit it or target them.

what are they trying to promote with that?...or is this only an issue when a minority or gay person is involved?

See above first response. But also encouraging mental illness through LGBT propaganda. Because being trans is 100% a mental illness, but they know inserting a trans character into a mainline game is too extreme, so they use a black lesbian as the next best thing since they're lumped into the whole LGBT group of people.

Contrary to what you may believe too, I work in the military/Army and have some actually close gay female friends on active duty that I see nearly every day. And we actually talk about these things and they are just as annoyed with this propaganda as I am and think it's more of a harm on their way of life than anything else because of how hard they push it and in unbelievable scenarios.
 
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No, just preach that they're as capable as white men serving as infantry or any other male-dominated role.

I'm not getting too involved in this discussion; however, I am curious what your thoughts are on the Adepta Sororitas, more specifically the Sisters of Battle. I'm of the opinion that Gears of War and Warhammer 40k are somewhat adjacent to one another, both being grimdark sci-fi. There are lore differences, but neither the Sisters of Battle nor the Gears are genetically modified super-soldiers like Space Marines, it makes the comparison even more interesting.
 
Brain rot community, it's a game dawg, quit crying about a woman in it. It's all made up. The one who's binging the propaganda is you, no one outside of your weird circles gives a shit. This looks absurdly good. I can't justify 100 bucks for early access but i will binge the campaign and some horde mode. Been playing gears since 2004 couch coop with my buddy back in the day on 360, my friends are married with kids but i do still have that friend who's asking me if we're going to play.
 
Brain rot community, it's a game dawg, quit crying about a woman in it. It's all made up. The one who's binging the propaganda is you, no one outside of your weird circles gives a shit. This looks absurdly good. I can't justify 100 bucks for early access but i will binge the campaign and some horde mode. Been playing gears since 2004 couch coop with my buddy back in the day on 360, my friends are married with kids but i do still have that friend who's asking me if we're going to play.
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I'm waiting for reviews but games that insert the woke stuff are generally worse. They are making a trade off when they put that in.
 
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I'm waiting for reviews but games that insert the woke stuff are generally worse. They are making a trade off when they put that in.
This looks fun as fuck though? Like I said, if it's well done, its well done. I don't care. Lara Croft would probably die 5 minutes into anything she'd do in tomb raider in real life, it's a game brother.


View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5x2gY7CjDKs

First thing i'm doing is getting a beemer mod for this
 
I'm not getting too involved in this discussion; however, I am curious what your thoughts are on the Adepta Sororitas, more specifically the Sisters of Battle. I'm of the opinion that Gears of War and Warhammer 40k are somewhat adjacent to one another, both being grimdark sci-fi. There are lore differences, but neither the Sisters of Battle nor the Gears are genetically modified super-soldiers like Space Marines, it makes the comparison even more interesting.
Sorry, I've never been into Warhammer and am not familar with any of its characters or factions. If they've been part of the story and lore from the beginning and aren't asposing modern feminist ideas like this game is, then I don't really care about it. Just as I don't in any other games or media with female leads with that same criteria like Tomb Raider or Metroid. But when writers shoehorn in new female characters into traditionally male-lead games and have them acting exactly like men the whole time, that's a major detractor for me.
Brain rot community, it's a game dawg, quit crying about a woman in it. It's all made up. The one who's binging the propaganda is you, no one outside of your weird circles gives a shit.
Right, that explains why the majority of these games from western studios are failing to meet sales expections and they're seeing mass layoffs everywhere. And I'm in weird circles like literally half of western society who are also rejecting this stuff constantly preached to us in modern media. Not that mentally ill trans vegan tech director for the game in the first 90 seconds of that video I just posted definitely isn't in any weird circles either like any groups who's whole identity is based on their sexual preferences. Got it.
 
I'm not getting too involved in this discussion; however, I am curious what your thoughts are on the Adepta Sororitas, more specifically the Sisters of Battle. I'm of the opinion that Gears of War and Warhammer 40k are somewhat adjacent to one another, both being grimdark sci-fi. There are lore differences, but neither the Sisters of Battle nor the Gears are genetically modified super-soldiers like Space Marines, it makes the comparison even more interesting.

Sisters are advanced, heavily trained, well armed, devout followers of the Emperor. This is as if you have a man show up in Sororitas armor and take charge after a couple of games following an order/team of Sisters. Maybe if he is in robes and part of the Ecclisarchy church it would work but why? There has been a push by GamesWorkshop to create female Custodies, female Space Marines too. Why? You have plenty of women in W40k in the Guard, royalty, Sisters but no there are no female Space Marines. There should be orcs allowed in the Imperial Guard! Maybe in some Inquisition unit or a Rogue Trader but otherwise no.

Why do you need butch female leaders in a Gears game that is going to be front line male soldiers? A game mostly played by men. Sure, put in female soldiers for multiplayer (since most women want to play as female avatars) but for the storyline for a long running game series? The game is supposed to be the prequel to the gears series and the start of the story of the two main characters, male ones. But no, female captain and character that lectures the men characters. Its political inserts, plain as day.
 
Sisters are advanced, heavily trained, well armed, devout followers of the Emperor. This is as if you have a man show up in Sororitas armor and take charge after a couple of games following an order/team of Sisters. Maybe if he is in robes and part of the Ecclisarchy church it would work but why? There has been a push by GamesWorkshop to create female Custodies, female Space Marines too. Why? You have plenty of women in W40k in the Guard, royalty, Sisters but no there are no female Space Marines. There should be orcs allowed in the Imperial Guard! Maybe in some Inquisition unit or a Rogue Trader but otherwise no.

Why do you need butch female leaders in a Gears game that is going to be front line male soldiers? A game mostly played by men. Sure, put in female soldiers for multiplayer (since most women want to play as female avatars) but for the storyline for a long running game series? The game is supposed to be the prequel to the gears series and the start of the story of the two main characters, male ones. But no, female captain and character that lectures the men characters. Its political inserts, plain as day.

The series has literally existed for twenty years

That is effectively a quarter of your entire natural average lifespan

Women make up half the population on this planet

Why is it surprising that over the course of two decades, this work of fiction might wind up being a character that is the other gender

Oh no this Chyna looking muff eating bad motherfucker with a scar yelled at my sausage finger having roided out big tough Man with a capital M cog this is an AFFRONT to my game for MASCULINE MEN*



* actually some of the most insecure people to walk this barren earth
 
I have to wonder for those like you that remain completely ignorant to the propoganda though; where's the line for you to not play a game as long as the "game play is good and that's all that matters"?

what other lines are there?...maybe if the developer was found to be complicit in some sort of genocide or mass murder...a developer choosing to make a game with a Black guy as the lead character or a female soldier doesn't bother me in the slightest...it's called Director's intent...you do realize that females are in the Armed Forces in many countries around the world?

there doesn't need to be any secret meaning behind everything...maybe they want to appeal to female gamers by adding a female soldier (or more likely to the horny male gamer demo)...maybe there are more females playing games than at any other time in history so they thought it would be nice to include one...games/movies/TV represent the society we live in
 
what other lines are there?...maybe if the developer was found to be complicit in some sort of genocide or mass murder...a developer choosing to make a game with a Black guy as the lead character or a female soldier doesn't bother me in the slightest...it's called Director's intent...you do realize that females are in the Armed Forces in many countries around the world?
We literally had like a 40 page discussion on why it isn't a black person in a game that bothers us. The fact that after months of this discussion you still think black people being in games is the issue we have is honestly frightening to me. And the other problem isn't women in games. It's ugly women in games. Or taking a beautiful VA ... using the VA as the source model ... then making her ugly for no reason. Women have always been beautiful in games. And women have been in some of the best games ever made. A large majority of women prefer playing beautiful women in games. This isn't debatable. It's literally data. And yes ... some people in here seem to hate anything with women in it for some reason ... but in their defense ... women as a whole lately aren't being put into games because they're an amazing character ... they're being shoehorned into the game to fill an agenda. It's both obvious and annoying. The other issue is casting hateful people in VA roles. The VA in Ghost of Yotei openly hates white people. Same as the VA in Intergalactic: The Heretic Prophet. It's getting really ... really ... really exhausting. You refusing to accept reality doesn't deny reality's existence. There is only "the" truth. Not "your" truth. Two plus two ... whether you like it or not ... equals four.
 
you do realize that females are in the Armed Forces in many countries around the world?

there doesn't need to be any secret meaning behind everything...maybe they want to appeal to female gamers by adding a female soldier (or more likely to the horny male gamer demo)...maybe there are more females playing games than at any other time in history so they thought it would be nice to include one...gmes/movies/TV represent the society we live in
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Contrary to what you may believe too, I work in the military/Army and have some actually close gay female friends on active duty that I see nearly every day. And we actually talk about these things and they are just as annoyed with this propaganda as I am and think it's more of a harm on their way of life than anything else because of how hard they push it and in unbelievable scenarios.
If you can't be bothered to even read what you're responding to, please stop engaging.

You've shown you either can't comprehend any of our points on this, or aren't willing to, and would rather just assume we're just being sexist and racist. But we clearly also don't have an issue with any modern non-western studios having women or minorites in their games and their portrayals there, so what do you think the difference is here?

I'm literally playing through Silent Hill Townfall right now where the main protagonist is a black man and I have zero issues with that because they're not using him to virtue signal ideas like Gears is doing here.
 
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Nice to see the top reviews (by far with thousands of votes and awards) on Steam are sane.

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Also, I just saw that the black lesbian also has two disabilities (blind in one eye and has asthma), LOL. They did everything besides make her trans and put her in a wheelchair.🤣
 
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oh my God...you again and your crazy rants...hopefully all games moving forward are like this that way you never have to play another game in your entire life
Most games from western AAA studios have been like that for years. So you got your wish already. And yeah more and more gamers are not playing these games anymore, which means they are not buying. Which is why mass layoffs has hit so many studios, with more to come. The more they propagandize the quicker their downfall. I'm all for it, entertainment media needs to be purged from people who view it as a means to fulfill their political ends.

You are the loud minority, always have been.
 
Nice to see the top reviews (by far with thousands of votes and awards) on Steam are sane.

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Also, I just saw that the black lesbian also has two disabilities (blind in one eye and has asthma), LOL. They did everything besides make her trans and put her in a wheelchair.🤣
Looks like a game I will never play, which is sad, because I played the heck out of all the previous GoW games.
 
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Most games from western AAA studios have been like that for years. So you got your wish already. And yeah more and more gamers are not playing these games anymore, which means they are not buying. Which is why mass layoffs has hit so many studios, with more to come. The more they propagandize the quicker their downfall. I'm all for it, entertainment media needs to be purged from people who view it as a means to fulfill their political ends.

You are the loud minority, always have been.

There are a whole lot more other reasons for mass layoffs and under performance. But I will say, this is probably the easiest, quickest and least costly thing to change as an attempt to return their games to higher profit margins. But they seem to be willing to bleed off sales to push their ideology even while in dire straits.
 
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If you can't be bothered to even read what you're responding to, please stop engaging.

You've shown you either can't comprehend any of our points on this, or aren't willing to, and would rather just assume we're just being sexist and racist. But we clearly also don't have an issue with any modern non-western studios having women or minorites in their games and their portrayals there, so what do you think the difference is here?

I'm literally playing through Silent Hill Townfall right now where the main protagonist is a black man and I have zero issues with that because they're not using him to virtue signal ideas like Gears is doing here.

if you can't bother to comprehend what you are reading then why bother responding?...your brain is so warped from the ideology of gay people and minorities being bad for games that you fail to comprehend basic sentences...my point in asking the rhetorical question about females in the Armed Forces is because you claim to be in the Army...if so then you would know that female soldiers are allowed to serve in the U.S. Army, including in combat roles...so if you knew that then why on Earth would it bother you that Gears of War has a female soldier as one of the main group?...who cares if you deem her ugly or a lesbian...is everyone in the world gorgeous models?

are you some gorgeous model?...then why are you insulting other actors or character models?

Most games from western AAA studios have been like that for years. So you got your wish already. And yeah more and more gamers are not playing these games anymore, which means they are not buying. Which is why mass layoffs has hit so many studios, with more to come. The more they propagandize the quicker their downfall. I'm all for it, entertainment media needs to be purged from people who view it as a means to fulfill their political ends.

You are the loud minority, always have been.

you are the minority...games succeed or fail based mostly on gameplay...ugly females in video games are not the reason...and as you have attested, developers are ignoring the crazy folk asking for more Caucasians or straight people...games, movies, TV series represent the world we live in...and the world we currently live in has gays, lesbians, Black, Hispanic, Asian people in it
 
if you can't bother to comprehend what you are reading then why bother responding?...your brain is so warped from the ideology of gay people and minorities being bad for games that you fail to comprehend basic sentences...my point in asking the rhetorical question about females in the Armed Forces is because you claim to be in the Army...if so then you would know that female soldiers are allowed to serve in the U.S. Army, including in combat roles...so if you knew that then why on Earth would it bother you that Gears of War has a female soldier as one of the main group?...who cares if you deem her ugly or a lesbian...is everyone in the world gorgeous models?

are you some gorgeous model?...then why are you insulting other actors or character models?



you are the minority...games succeed or fail based mostly on gameplay...ugly females in video games are not the reason...and as you have attested, developers are ignoring the crazy folk asking for more Caucasians or straight people...games, movies, TV series represent the world we live in...and the world we currently live in has gays, lesbians, Black, Hispanic, Asian people in it
Do you even read what you write? And if you do ... you're actually genuinely okay with pressing the "Post reply" button? Your white knighting for nobody in particular is insanely embarrassing at this point.

You're also almost always wrong on almost every point you make.

You're going off on a tangent about things nobody said. Please stop straw manning every reply you make. You ignore literally everything everyone says to you, then keep pressing further. Everyone here clarifies what they said, you ignore it, then you make the same ridiculous and baseless accusations that have been explained to you to death. The only argument you ever make is that everyone in here is sexist and racist. That is the cornerstone of everything you say for some reason. We're none of the things you think we are. We never will be. Why do you keep doing this? I'm genuinely trying to understand. Is there something genuinely gratifying you get from being wrong all the time?
 
It looks like they did this game dirty. It's sad that the activists that they hired, failed to match the technical aspects that the "Gears" teams from 20 years ago managed with 1/6th the budget and hardware that was 10x slower. This just proves that having the rights to an IP that somebody else created and a popular game engine that somebody else created and throwing investor's money that somebody else earned doesn't equate to squat. They need to hire real game developers that actually have a passion for gaming instead of politics.

They need people that can build their own IP's, their own game engines and tools, and earn their own money to fund their own projects that they as artists have creative control over. After all, it's the game developers that need to understand and relate to their audience if they want to sell games to them. Right now they have a bunch of degens playing make-believe.
 
if you can't bother to comprehend what you are reading then why bother responding? your brain is so warped from the ideology of gay people and minorities being bad for games that you fail to comprehend basic sentences...my point in asking the rhetorical question about females in the Armed Forces is because you claim to be in the Army

🤣 you really just pulled the "no u" response here and tried to pass that off as a rhetorical question, when it's obvious you're not even reading the posts you're responding to and never answering direct questions given to you.

So I'm done engaging you in this thread now and I'll resist going forward in other threads where you try to bait me and everyone else into these strawman arguements with points no one has ever made.

I normally don't care as much when I see this trash inserted into games I never cared much about like in modern Ubisoft and EA games or new IPs where they're not retconning characters and their personalities. But when I see it in beloved series like Gears that thoughly enjoyed in the 360 era and recently again with my late son (I literally got a Series X solely to play these games in split-screen co-op with him), I'm compelled to speak out against it. You're free to disagree wtih it and reply accordingly, but contiunously ignoring points while strawmanning others is disengenuous and a waste of time and bandwidth for everyone envolved here.
 
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There are a whole lot more other reasons for mass layoffs and under performance. But I will say, this is probably the easiest, quickest and least costly thing to change as an attempt to return their games to higher profit margins. But they seem to be willing to bleed off sales to push their ideology even while in dire straits.
If you removed the people at least from positions of power whose goal is not explicitly to make the most enjoyable game possible, most of those other problems would go away as an added benefit.
 
what other lines are there?...maybe if the developer was found to be complicit in some sort of genocide or mass murder...a developer choosing to make a game with a Black guy as the lead character or a female soldier doesn't bother me in the slightest...
The line is wherever you want it to be. Some of us don't care for the political slant some of these games have. BTW, in all of these politically charged games, the games are of dubious quality. That includes shit gameplay, bad stories, regressive graphics fidelity, you name it. AC Shadows, Ghost of Yotei, Star Wars Outlaws, South of Midnight, Concord, and a shit ton of Western developed games are like this and fall into that category.

I'll say it again. A black protagonist is NOT the issue. A female protagonist is not the issue.
it's called Director's intent...you do realize that females are in the Armed Forces in many countries around the world?
Yes, many countries including the US have females in them as officers, soldiers, or whatever. What you do not understand is the difference between countries that have different sets of requirements per gender like the US military does. Lowering your standards to allow females in as front line troops for example is a BAD idea. In support roles, it shouldn't be an issue. Same for command, etc. So long as they are held to the same standards as their male counterparts, its not a problem. I don't think anyone here says or thinks it is.
there doesn't need to be any secret meaning behind everything...maybe they want to appeal to female gamers by adding a female soldier (or more likely to the horny male gamer demo)
That's the problem. Companies try to get more market share and widen the success of a product by giving a broader appeal. On the surface, there is nothing wrong with that. The problem is that the more fringe a group is, the more catering to that group will alienate your core audience. Some demographics are simply incompatible with each other. This is where greed goes too far. Trying to make something appeal to everyone often leads to it appealing to no one.
...maybe there are more females playing games than at any other time in history so they thought it would be nice to include one...
Candy Crush and mobile games should not be counted in those gamer gender statistics, and unfortunately, they do which leads to false assumptions about their potential customer base. Beyond that idiocy, adding a female, butch, black lesbian character into Gears of War is NOT going to make women suddenly want to play a Gears of War game. Think about how ridiculous that argument is.

Men and women have different interests. Very different interests. Trying to make a Gears of War game appeal to your average female gamer isn't going to work. To do that, the game would have to be completely redesigned to a point where it isn't a Gears of War game anymore. There are games that do have a more broad appeal to both genders, but I don't think Gears of War is one of them.
games/movies/TV represent the society we live in
That's a gross misinterpretation of things and a cop out. First off, entertainment doesn't always do this, nor should it, nor does it have to do so. If I am watching a movie set in the Edo period in Japan, I don't expect to see a lot of white people, black people etc. Such a setting shouldn't have a cast that looks like the average Wal-Mart in Los Angeles. Why? Because it doesn't make sense and isn't authentic to the period being represented in the TV show or film.

Anyone who says they need to see themselves in entertainment is a narcissist with mental health issues. Plain and simple.
 
are you some gorgeous model?...then why are you insulting other actors or character models?
You get bad food at a street vendor, you can't criticize it unless you run your own food truck? Please, at least try to think through what you written before pressing post reply.
you are the minority...
Look around you. You (and maybe two other guys who show up occasionally when the actual slop requires its honor to be defended) are regularly arguing with the entire room in every game topic. Repeating the same tired strawman arguments and thrice debunked talking points. Over and over again like a broken record. Asserting things without evidence, or evidence that does not support the claims made.
games succeed or fail based mostly on gameplay...ugly females in video games are not the reason...
Games fail / succeed on both. Your game can have the best gameplay ever if half or more of the audience checks out due to the character designs or some other messaging unrelated to gameplay.
and as you have attested, developers are ignoring the crazy folk asking for more Caucasians or straight people..
Yes, they are ignoring sane people who just want to have fun and not have the developers twisted world views hammered down their throats.
.games, movies, TV series represent the world we live in...
So a historical period piece must represent the world we live in now? Or a fantasy or completely detached from reality scifi? They might have elements from the real world, but they do not represent the real world. This is why you people™ think that orcs represent black people? You can't imagine a hypothetical world?

But even this isn't true. The world we live in is wildly different depending on where you lived your life. So whose world should the games reflect? The Russian Gas worker in Vladivostok? Or the Vietnamese rice farmer? That's a rhetorical question. Why do games only ever represent the world of the ultra liberal game developer from the bay area and socal?
and the world we currently live in has gays, lesbians, Black, Hispanic, Asian people in it
Why, the world 15 years ago was only populated with straight white men?
 
Beyond that idiocy, adding a female, butch, black lesbian character into Gears of War is NOT going to make women suddenly want to play a Gears of War game. Think about how ridiculous that argument is

have they specificially stated that the female character is a lesbian or is that just your interpretation?...the issue is right there in your quote...you're seeing it one narrow minded way...instead of seeing her as a "Black, butch, Lesbian" have you ever thought that maybe she is being used to portray a strong female character??...what you see as a Black lesbian others can see as just a strong female
 
have they specificially stated that the female character is a lesbian or is that just your interpretation?...the issue is right there in your quote...you're seeing it one narrow minded way...instead of seeing her as a "Black, butch, Lesbian" have you ever thought that maybe she is being used to portray a strong female character??...what you see as a Black lesbian others can see as just a strong female
Naturally, you only focus on that particular comment and nothing else. I don't know what the character is. The screen shot I saw of her makes her look like a black, butch lesbian. Is she? Probably. These game developers have to self-insert every chance they get. Also, what constitutes a strong female character in this day and age is a laughable farce of what a strong female character actually is. Fuck, the character work in most modern games and movies is bad in general.

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This image says it all. We aren't getting a strong female character or characters. We will get girl bosses that denigrate men to prop themselves up. How do I know this? Because of pattern recognition. We've been seeing this same story play out in gaming for the last decade plus now.
 
what you see as a Black lesbian others can see as just a strong female

Yet it is in every game. One of the main story characters in Gears of War Tactics (xcom type game) is a strong black female. You have to use her in some story missions too (a real problem given bad game design too) and man is she the annoying dont trust the system type. Geared and spec'd correctly she is at least deadly working in tandem with my asian shotgun scout lady. After awhile I just get tired of the same tropes that are highly unrealistic.

Just consume the retread product clearly promoting an agenda and get excited for next product.
 
Yes, many countries including the US have females in them as officers, soldiers, or whatever. What you do not understand is the difference between countries that have different sets of requirements per gender like the US military does. Lowering your standards to allow females in as front line troops for example is a BAD idea. In support roles, it shouldn't be an issue. Same for command, etc. So long as they are held to the same standards as their male counterparts, its not a problem. I don't think anyone here says or thinks it is.

Most women tend to be in support roles, not a lot in infantry for obvious reasons. You'll notice that there are a number of female fighter pilots because there is not a physical difference that matters. Or if it does it is negligible. But they don't serve in infantry or similar roles because they generally can't do as good of a job there. There are some exceptions, the IDF has a large amount of women but they also tend to be in support roles. Most are in Home Front Command, which are not quite front line troops. But there are now also some women that operate tanks. The main reason for this though is Israel has a tiny population, mandatory conscription, and a need for a large military. Ukraine sees a number of women doing support type jobs as well further behind the front lines.

In general, if the country has enough men to fulfill the jobs they don't need to tap into the population of women much.
 
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