Do you think GOG will be around longer than Steam?

Will GOG be around longer than Steam

  • Yes

    Votes: 2 6.5%

  • No

    Votes: 17 54.8%

  • They will be both around untill the End of time

    Votes: 12 38.7%
  • Total voters
    31
There will always be old games, there will probably always be new games. They target different markets
 
No i do not think GOG will be around longer than Steam.

I can see publisher try more and more to go around reseller to avoid paying them, Steam is better equip to survive and compete....

But GOG could just goes back to being about actual old games that cannot find an audience without a popular platform (not from popular publisher that did find a way)
 
Nobu said:
There will always be old games, there will probably always be new games. They target different markets
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GOG sells both old and new games, as does Steam. The hurdle for new games getting sold on GOG is a publisher supporting a version with no DRM and an offline installer. While Steam supports both DRM and DRM-free, the latter isn't mandatory like GOG.
 
Not sure how different of a market, 75%+ of GOG users are stream users would be my guess and almost all games available of GOG are available on steam, the crossover must be massive.

Say right now, quest for glory 1-5 collection is $1 cheaper on steam than Gog, I would probably buy it on steam, they do compete with each other quite directly on a large portion of what Gog offer.
 
I don't know which will last longer but I don't think either will last forever.

Once Gabe is gone anything could happen to Steam.

Microsoft could buy them. Sony could buy them. Apple could buy them.
Whoever buys them could combine Steam into their other products and eventually Steam becomes something else or just goes away.

Or maybe Steam just goes away on it's own.
They could mismanage the company and it goes out of business.
There could be some change in the world that just makes it irrelevant. Maybe you play games through some AI interface that just gets games some other way. Maybe something crazy post scarcity thing like all software becoming free. Anything could happen.


A lot of people can't imagine Steam going anywhere because it's such a juggernaut but big companies like this go away all the time. Blockbuster, Sears, Borders book store, etc.
 
Both will be forced out of buisness once the PC dies. We will be forced into dumb terminals and have to subscribe to a cloud service for everything. Hardware is starting to get prohibited expensive now. Only a matter of time before Nvidia and even AMD abandons the consumer market. They are not building all these data centers all over world for shits anf giggles. You will own nothing and be happy.
 
theyll both be around for a while yet. what makes you think they wont be?
 
Steam might outlast them but not because of how steam is now but because of how big it is. One day Gabe will die and steam will not be the same. Maybe it will stay the same for one more generation. But eventually it will not be the same and it'll be some commercial garbage (hopefully long after I'm dead). It will just be another AAA giant that caters to the most common denominator. It'll just be some giant conglomerate like EA games. Either at last forever due to it being too big to fail or it'll fail spectacularly. There will always be some investors trying to make it as some sort of cash cow, hence the "too big to fail." GOG is too small for that. They'd likely get bought up.

One thing though is that GOG games can be forever, but not steam. Steam games are not necessarily forever. The binary cannot be taken away from you with GOG, but with steam your games are not your games.
 
SecretStash said:
Steam might outlast them but not because of how steam is now but because of how big it is. One day Gabe will die and steam will not be the same. Maybe it will stay the same for one more generation. But eventually it will not be the same and it'll be some commercial garbage (hopefully long after I'm dead). It will just be another AAA giant that caters to the most common denominator. It'll just be some giant conglomerate like EA games. Either at last forever due to it being too big to fail or it'll fail spectacularly. There will always be some investors trying to make it as some sort of cash cow, hence the "too big to fail." GOG is too small for that. They'd likely get bought up.

One thing though is that GOG games can be forever, but not steam. Steam games are not necessarily forever. The binary cannot be taken away from you with GOG, but with steam your games are not your games.
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There are DRM-free games on Steam that can be launched without Steam. You do need Steam to install them, though.
 
SecretStash said:
There will always be some investors trying to make it as some sort of cash cow,
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It is already setup as a cash cow (very few employees, very few spending, very little ambition, etc.. relative to the revenues).

Which could help it stay like it is for a good while. The risk would be more some investor trying to be ambitious and do thinks instead of the current cash cow model (and try to turn it into a much lower margin/less of a cash cow like an EA games).
 
vegeta535 said:
Both will be forced out of buisness once the PC dies. We will be forced into dumb terminals and have to subscribe to a cloud service for everything. Hardware is starting to get prohibited expensive now. Only a matter of time before Nvidia and even AMD abandons the consumer market. They are not building all these data centers all over world for shits anf giggles. You will own nothing and be happy.
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It is usually the other way around, both option will be presented to customer and they will force the industry hands....

Think how customer forced steam into game studio, it is not that we were forced to not buy DVDs from the store it was customer choice (we had for many years the option between steam and owning games, we did choose to buy digital revokable license and forced publisher to give 30% to steam), same for DVDs vs Netflix, CDs vs Itunes, the moment people buy physical Vynils people will make them and with pleasure sell it to them.

If it ever goes in could service, it will be people forcing the industry into that less profitable model, there will be a full generation of Nintendo-Apple-Intel hardwares and others offering to people to buy hardware to play game locally would they want and people choosing the cloud over it.

If customer do force the gaming industry into streaming like they did for many others, steam could be very well placed to be a big player into that space too, letting people stream from the cloud their giant steam library and strike deal with publishers, instead of having GeforceNow between your steam library and you, would be a natural entry point and a lot of work have been done already for local network gaming.
 
I voted no because I think the Steam name is more likely to stick around. I think it's unlikely either one of them will just disappear. Even if Valve or CD Projekt went bankrupt someone would probably buy their assets. Stores get merged and you still have your games. I think the Steam name is stronger than "Good Old Games" and far more likely to survive an acquisition. As far as game stores go if anyone other than maybe MS managed to buy Valve I bet the result will be the acquiring company merges their store with Steam and the merged result is still called Steam. GOG would just turn into a redirect to the acquiring company's store. I also think it's totally possible some marketing types at CD Projekt will eventually decide that they shouldn't be doing new releases on a site called Good OLD Games and decide they need to rename GOG. So no because I think the GOG name is much more likely to go away.
 
GOG is a lot more vulnerable than Steam. They were being propped up by CDPR, then sold to the co-founder and now have a Patreon style subscription for hardcore fans seemingly as another way to support the store (merely for exclusive chat and being able to vote on meaningless things). I still have more games on GOG than Steam since it aligns with what I value.

From a user perspective the main value of GOG over Steam is if you value (mostly) strictly DRM-free library and ethos (which includes courting publishers to get their games DRM-free rather than just hoping they do, unlike Steam) in addition to packaged installer downloads (optional, if you care for that).

DRM-free in general needs active evangelism so there's a rolling market of those who know of the benefits and can decide if it's something they want to support.
 
GOG will be around while CDPR is around. I know they no longer directly own GOG, but the connection is still strong.

Steam's future is completely uncertain after Gabe Newel. They'll probably take it public seeking a giant payday, then it's bye-bye game library.
 
I just deleted my one of my GOG accounts had two of them one had no games so deleted that one. Took 6 days
 
I went with "no" just because it's way more likely to be rebranded and tweaked enough that it isn't really the same. Especially with different ownership, a name brand that isn't great, and considering GOG isn't exactly a household name. That doesn't mean I think it's going anywhere soon, but I think it's more likely to change than Steam in short term.
 
M76 said:
Steam's future is completely uncertain after Gabe Newel. They'll probably take it public seeking a giant payday, then it's bye-bye game library.
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I am not sure what that mean, but GOG was owned by a public company before recently getting privatized while the Epic store by a private one... It does not mean that much. Has long steam stay so big you must deal with it for most publisher they will have to accept generous license deal (like the current forever they have in place) and still pay steam a fortune, not sure why the public version would start to offer publisher rebate for less inclusive license if they do not have too.
 
LukeTbk said:
I am not sure what that mean, but GOG was owned by a public company before recently getting privatized while the Epic store by a private one... It does not mean that much. Has long steam stay so big you must deal with it for most publisher they will have to accept generous license deal (like the current forever they have in place) and still pay steam a fortune, not sure why the public version would start to offer publisher rebate for less inclusive license if they do not have too.
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It means they'll come up with excuses to not support old games and start removing them from your library, and you can do nothing about it, since page 398 paragraph 3 of the EULA says you own nothing.
 
M76 said:
It means they'll come up with excuses to not support old games and start removing them from your library, and you can do nothing about it, since page 398 paragraph 3 of the EULA says you own nothing.
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could be, but they already got the license for life from the publisher, if they want to let publisher make needed update to support OS updates or just let gamers deal with installing it on older system it would cost them nothing. Steam has been very clear from day 1 you own nothing more than a revokable license, but some euro country and other are starting to challenge that (if you bought the game before the buy button was clearly saying you are simply getting a license like they do now), so yes they could if they feel it could help to push sales of new games.... or if publisher are willing to pay for steam to remove their old title so they can try to sales more remaster version.

But they built a near perfect cash cow with all time best margin/profit ever seen, the temptation to not do much different will be strong.

Let just say if they continue to be private (say bought by Kushner private equity group like EA) or Fornite-Epic after Gabe death, that does not really inspire any more confidence than if they go public like CD Projeckt, FromSoftware or Nintendo. The private-public is not that relevant of a variable versus who the CEO/board/owner are.
 
You can also basically download and backup your steam library for use in the future if they go under... with some exceptions most games can be re-installed and run completely offline on a new machine, just takes a few extra steps to set up correctly
 
xnaughtyowlx said:
You can also basically download and backup your steam library for use in the future if they go under... with some exceptions most games can be re-installed and run completely offline on a new machine, just takes a few extra steps to set up correctly
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Most games with zero cached client token ever created for the machine ? I thought most game that do not have their fancy own or third party DRM used the provided by steam one.
 
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