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DRAM Pricing Jumps 50%, Only 70% of Orders Getting Filled

when will memory prices start to decrease erek ??

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transcript / TLDR ??
I can only assume that they are making tons of chips, not nearly as many as are being sold by them, and their plan is to flood the market when companies/governments get too desperate to rely only/mostly on other sources.

This is a very risky play, as it is using money and resources on product assuming it won't be obsolete when they finally are able to sell, and assuming that the market will eventually open up to them. If they never get sold, for whatever reason, cxmt will be left holding the (massive) bag (of almost worthless chips).
 
I can only assume that they are making tons of chips, not nearly as many as are being sold by them, and their plan is to flood the market when companies/governments get too desperate to rely only/mostly on other sources.

This is a very risky play, as it is using money and resources on product assuming it won't be obsolete when they finally are able to sell, and assuming that the market will eventually open up to them. If they never get sold, for whatever reason, cxmt will be left holding the (massive) bag (of almost worthless chips).
it is a command economy. they are pretty good at directing capital where they want to go. ex: solar, EV, HSR etc.

they are not afraid to pop bubbles like real estate too.

but it is all driven from the top. in the sense the govt may not directly fund this but full state support including currency depreciation to enable exports

I was just wondering when all this will make a material difference to memory price. primarily looking at lpddr5x price as that is what will go into a Steam Machine, Series S2 or Handhelds
 
yes, sir.

what is the implication ????
i asked for a summary for you,
ChatGPT said:
Yes — CXMT / China creating a historic memory glut is the correct topic. I found the exact video: “China Will Create A Historic Memory Glut.” YouTube


The short version​


The video's thesis is that China's rapid expansion of memory-chip manufacturing—especially CXMT for DRAM and YMTC for NAND—could eventually break the current memory shortage and trigger a huge global oversupply.


The argument goes roughly like this:


  • Memory is a brutally cyclical industry. When prices are high, manufacturers add capacity. Eventually supply catches demand, then exceeds it, and prices can collapse.
  • Right now we're in an unusual AI-driven memory shortage. Samsung, SK hynix and Micron are making enormous profits because AI servers are consuming huge quantities of DRAM/HBM/NAND.
  • China is building memory capacity at the same time. CXMT has become a legitimate fourth DRAM manufacturer, while YMTC is expanding NAND. CXMT's global DRAM share was already around 7.7% at the end of 2025. Vertical+1
  • The crucial difference is that China isn't necessarily making capacity decisions purely according to normal market economics. Semiconductor self-sufficiency is strategically important to Beijing, so China can tolerate investment/payback periods that conventional Western companies might avoid.
  • If CXMT keeps adding fabs and eventually reaches production volumes comparable with the established players, it doesn't need to become #1 to disrupt the market. Adding a fourth major supplier to a three-company oligopoly could dramatically change pricing dynamics.
  • And because DRAM is essentially a commodity, once enough supply appears, customers have enormous leverage and prices can fall very rapidly.

Why CXMT is particularly interesting​


CXMT isn't some theoretical future company anymore.


It has gone from being a loss-making Chinese memory startup to a substantial DRAM producer. Its 2025 revenue reportedly jumped 155.6%, and its Q1 2026 revenue was up 719% YoY. R40


It also isn't necessarily competing by simply selling memory for pennies. That's an important nuance: reports indicate CXMT's DRAM prices have been only 5–10% below Samsung/SK hynix/Micron, and some Chinese server DDR5 has even reportedly been priced above comparable Samsung products. Vertical+1


So the potential threat is capacity, not necessarily “China dumps dirt-cheap RAM on the world.”


The really important part​


The video is essentially making a future-cycle argument, not saying:


“CXMT is going to flood the market tomorrow.”

In fact, current data suggests we're still in a shortage, and some analysts explicitly argue that CXMT's added output won't be enough to eliminate it in the near term. One recent estimate says CXMT will contribute about 11.3% of global net new DRAM bit supply in 2026, while the overall market would still remain undersupplied. XenoSpectrum


The concern is what happens after everyone responds to today's shortage.


You get this sequence:


AI boom → memory shortage → huge profits → everyone expands capacity → China expands aggressively → capacity arrives → supply catches demand → supply exceeds demand → memory prices collapse.


And memory companies have historically been extremely vulnerable to this cycle.


Why this could be especially painful for Micron/Samsung/SK hynix​


Their current profitability is partly based on scarcity.


If CXMT eventually adds enough commodity DRAM capacity, the established companies may have to:


  • cut prices,
  • reduce utilization,
  • delay/cancel expansion,
  • accept lower margins,
  • or shift more capacity toward higher-value HBM.

That last point is important: HBM is somewhat different from ordinary DDR4/DDR5 DRAM. CXMT's ability to compete in advanced HBM is still much less mature, so China's first major impact is more likely to be on commodity DRAM, rather than immediately destroying NVIDIA's HBM supply chain. Vertical


My takeaway from the video's thesis​


I think the most useful way to interpret it is:


The video isn't really predicting that CXMT will “win” the memory market. It's predicting that China's success in building memory capacity could make the memory market dramatically more competitive—and potentially create the next giant memory-price crash.


There's a legitimate counterargument, though: China may simply absorb its own production. Chinese AI companies, cloud providers, PC makers and electronics manufacturers have enormous domestic demand, so CXMT could expand substantially without immediately dumping all that memory onto Western markets. Current evidence actually suggests Chinese demand is helping absorb CXMT's output. XenoSpectrum+1


So I'd characterize the video's thesis as plausible but timing-dependent, rather than “CXMT will definitely cause a glut.”


The fascinating question is not whether CXMT can make DRAM. It clearly can. The question is how many bits China ultimately decides to manufacture—and whether domestic demand can absorb them.

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i asked for a summary for you,
the conclusion is correct. China is absorbing all domestic demand right now

it is hopium that they can supply meaningfully to the international market
 

“The capacitor supply chain bottleneck is becoming a bigger AI trade in the market​


KEY POINTS
  • Artificial intelligence supply and demand dynamics are becoming a feature of more sector trades in the stock market.
  • The latest AI technology thematic bet showing up in exchange-traded funds is with capacitors, a technology manufacturing niche dominated by a handful of Asian companies, some of which have seen their shares rise over 100% in 2026.
  • What are known as MLCCs, multilayer ceramic capacitors, help to stabilize the intense power demands within data center operations.
Trading on commodity cycles within the technology sector is nothing new, and it's often associated with peak moments. Semiconductor ETFs like iShares Semiconductor ETF (SOXX) and VanEck Semiconductor ETF (SMH) date back to the 2000/2001 period. For decades, the quarterly 13F filings of hedge funds have also detailed rapid movements into and out of chip stocks as booms and busts proceeded. AI is creating a new level of interest and playing field for this kind of trading, often through ETFs.
There are roughly two dozen broad-based AI ETFs, but increasingly, there are niche trades targeting components from with the AI economy, such as memory — led by the Roundhill Memory ETF (DRAM) — and more recently, ETFs targeting companies in the photonics market, which focuses on AI data center optical networking innovation. There is also a growing AI thematic bet focused on supply and demand in the capacitor market, components that are crucial to stabilizing the intense power demands in data centers.“
 
JPMorgan expected memory shortages to persist for another two years, estimating that roughly 300,000 additional monthly wafer starts of DRAM capacity and 45,000 of NAND would be needed for the market to bring supply and demand back into balance by 2028.

UBS projected the global DRAM market would remain undersupplied until at least the second quarter of 2028.

https://amp.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/...e-boom-last-research-suggests-not-much-longer
 
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CXMT DRAM Capacity Reportedly Sold Out Through 2027 as Major OEMs Fight For Supply

Published One month ago by Hilbert Hagedoorn

According to a DigiTimes report, the company's production capacity has effectively been booked through the end of 2027, leaving limited availability for additional customers. The report claims that major OEMs including Dell, HP, and Apple have successfully negotiated future memory allocations, while smaller PC vendors have been left with little remaining capacity. The difference largely comes down to purchasing scale. Large manufacturers can commit to significantly higher order volumes over multiple product generations, making them more attractive customers for long-term supply agreements.
 
I wish RAM manufacturers would put on the packaging whether it's SK Hynix, Samsung or Micron.
 
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transcript / TLDR ??

China Will Create A Historic Memory Glut​


Market Disruption Timeline​


  1. 🌊
    Chinese memory manufacturers CXMT and YMTC have captured 8% and 14% global market share respectively as of 2025, positioning them to trigger a historic supply glut and price crash within 1-2 years despite operating 2-3 generations behind Western competitors due to US export controls on advanced chip equipment.
  2. 💰
    Chinese producers achieve similar quality to Western manufacturers but incur higher production costs by building in additional redundancy to compensate for elevated defect rates caused by reliance on older equipment restricted by US export controls.

Global Market Penetration​


  1. 🌍 YMTC NAND storage already appears in Lenovo laptops sold in the EU, demonstrating that Chinese memory products bypass US market restrictions by entering the global market through non-US channels despite both companies being on the US Commerce Department's entity list.

Industry Economics​


  1. 📉 The deflationary nature of the memory industry—where prices decline over time due to technological advances and increased competition—ensures Chinese memory will depress global prices for all manufacturers regardless of US market access restrictions.

Competitive Dynamics​


  1. 🏭
    Chinese state-owned semiconductor companies leverage their position to flood global markets with memory chips, creating parallel dynamics to China's EV industry expansion where domestic overcapacity translates into aggressive international market penetration.
  2. 🛡️
    Micron's lobbying efforts and US export controls have failed to prevent Chinese memory manufacturers from achieving significant production scale, forcing Western competitors to face price pressure across all non-US markets.

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CXMT Reportedly Struggles With HBM3E, Yields Are Only 25%

by AleksandarK Today, 10:59 Discuss (10 Comments)
Chinese memory giant CXMT is reportedly facing difficulties with HBM3 production, according to South Korean media. Late last month, it was revealed that CXMT had begun risk production of HBM3E memory, lagging two generations behind Samsung, SK hynix, and Micron, who are already progressing with HBM4E sampling. At that time, it was known that the company was conducting HBM3E risk production in limited runs, but details were scarce. However, today we learn that three out of four HBM3E stacks are defective, indicating that CXMT currently operates at a 25% yield. Stacking DRAM is a complex task, as the technology required is much more intricate than planar DRAM manufacturing, an area where CXMT reportedly excels.

The low yields are reportedly due to the immaturity of the through-silicon via (TSV) technology that CXMT employs. In front-end manufacturing, CXMT achieves around 30% yields, while back-end processing yields about 70% on top of the original 30%. For instance, Samsung uses about 5,000 TSVs per layer on HBM2, and SK hynix uses more than 8,000 TSVs per layer on its HBM3. However, data suggests that CXMT is attempting to achieve HBM3E with only 3,000 TSVs per layer and is trying to pack 8 layers in the regular 8-Hi HBM3E configuration. Given these challenges, the company is unlikely to transition to a higher-capacity 12-Hi HBM in the near term as it addresses engineering challenges.“
 

CXMT and YMTC Stockpile ASML Tools for Three-Year Expansion Plans

by AleksandarK Yesterday, 04:49 Discuss (21 Comments)
Chinese memory and storage makers have reportedly stockpiled enough lithography tools from ASML to ensure their expansion plans for the next three years, even if they are cut off from the supply chain. According to a report from the Financial Times, memory maker CXMT and storage giant YMTC have secured sufficient DUV lithography tools from ASML to support their growth plans for the next three years, despite increasing tensions and potential bans on exporting these older DUV tools to China. The United States government is reportedly pressuringthe Dutch government to completely halt tool exports to China.

In a new bipartisan bill called the Multilateral Alignment of Technology Controls on Hardware (MATCH) Act, the US government is considering forcing allied countries to implement a technological ban on exporting even the older DUV machines. This could mean that ASML might nearly cease all exposure to China, as the older DUV tools are targeted by US export restrictions. For ASML, this means that nearly one-fifth of its projected revenue for this year could suddenly disappear if the bill is passed.“
 

Apple Raises Prices Across the iPhone Lineup as DRAM Costs Catch Up

by DrUsmanSaleem Today, 19:41 Discuss (2 Comments)
As was rumored for months, Apple's iPhone 18 Pro launch on September 9 brought price hikes across almost every iPhone in its lineup, not just the new models. The iPhone 18 Pro and iPhone 18 Pro Max now start at $1,199 and $1,299, a $100 jump over the iPhone 17 Pro pair, both of which have been discontinued. Apple also raised prices by $100 across the board on the phones it kept around. The iPhone 16 now starts at $799, the iPhone 17e at $699, the iPhone 17 at $899, and the iPhone Air at $1,099. None of these older models got any hardware changes to justify the bump.

The timing of these price hikes aligns with what's become an industry-wide DRAM shortage, driven largely by AI data center demand soaking up memory supply. Apple CEO Tim Cook has previously compared the situation to a "hundred-year flood," and said the company can no longer absorb rising memory and storage costs like before. This mirrors what's already played out across the PC space, where DRAM and SSD price hikes have been hitting system builders and OEMs for months. It looks like Apple, despite its scale and negotiating leverage, isn't immune to the same memory price pressure squeezing the rest of the industry.“
 
Another hopium news on memory shortage. Kepler Computing reported that they are working on a new way to create memory for AI compute use without EUV machine using a completely different technology approach. Lack of scientific details, perhaps a trade secret.
BTW, US Department of Commerce committed to give Kepler up to $245 million to “develop in the US a new class of high-performance AI memory technology, enabled by innovative 3D and ferroelectric technologies."
 
So I was complaining a few months ago about the price of 64gb dimms, when a set of 2x 64gb were 1500, I checked yesterday, and now the cheapest set that isn't 5600 speed is 2300$!
This sucks so hard.
 

Chinese Chipmaker SMIC Expands Market Share with $3 Billion Quarterly Revenue

by AleksandarK Today, 09:46 Discuss (0 Comments)
Chinese semiconductor maker SMIC has increased its market share as the world's third-largest chipmaker. According to the latest report from TrendForce, SMIC now holds 5.4% of the semiconductor manufacturing market share in Q2 this year, a slight increase from 5.1% in Q1. In the three-month period ending in June, SMIC generated about $3 billion in revenue from domestic companies producing homegrown silicon. This marks a significant improvement compared to $2.2 billion in Q2 2025, with a slight increase in market share from that period's 5.1%. This indicates that overall capacity has increased across the supply chain.

SMIC's most advanced manufacturing nodes include the SMIC N+2, a 7 nm-class node used by Huawei to manufacture its Ascend series of AI accelerators and other infrastructure parts, and the SMIC N+3, a 5 nm-class node for its customers. The company uses DUV to print silicon designs but faces significant challenges in achieving its silicon ambitions as it currently has no access to EUV tools, since ASML has restricted exports of its EUV scanners, and it is the only company manufacturing EUV machinery at scale.“
 
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