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Crimson Desert

Reading on forums people are bitching about the controls and how limited they are and can't be remapped much.

I wish I could play it lor like World of Warcraft, but that's not happening.
 
After a quick search it seems only wasd, jump and crouch can't be remapped. Normally I'd be the first person to bitch about non rebindable mouse and keyboard controls but this doesn't seem to bad. I'd maybe autohotkey crouch (c) to something else, if crouching is really even needed that much. But I'm of the opinion that no keys should be hardcoded for anything ever.
 
w35t said:
I played the whole thing with m/kb, controls aren’t great but it’s very doable.
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same.
called it quits after 130 hours.
controls arent great but you get used to them very quickly. and when it clicks, they are kinda intuitive
 
Zorachus said:
Was so excited to get this game, bought it and uninstalled in 15 minutes.

The reason? Keyboard + mouse controls ugh :( I'm not a console player, not a gamepad controller guy, I'm a K+M guy 100%, and I just could not get comfortable with the character movement and camera control in this game. Maybe because I've been playing World of Warcraft for 22 years now, and still play, I'm so used to controlling a 3rd person RPG character like WoW, that CD was just so odd and strange I just couldn't do it. Unless there's some settings that allow me to change the character movement to be somewhat like WoW?

And WASD??? How do I remap these keybinds?
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(Problem In Chair, Not In Computer)

WASD has been a stardard since 1998 and used long beforethat in games to...logn before WoW came around.
 
I'm so tempted to give the game another shot, it just felt so off putting right away, character walking at a snails pace, and the camera would pan around at light speed crazy quick, so it felt really jarring and confusing. It was nighttime in the game and hard to see at first what I'm supposed to do or where to go. It just felt overwhelming at first and the character controls off-putting. But I'm willing to give it another go.

Purchased the game again, downloading.
 
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Played the game for a sold hour plus to 90 minutes now.

The controls are doable, I don't love them, but it's manageable and playable.

Graphics of course are truly next gen crazy good.

But I don't know what the heck I'm doing or where to go LOL

Overall the gameplay and lack of in-game tutorial and quest help makes it a bit confusing. The combat is strange to me, with all the buttons on the mouse and keyboard you need to press.

I don't know, it's just not a comfortable game to me, just feels so weird how to control everthing and move around and interact with things, etc...

I'll still give it more time of course, but so far it's just ok to me.
 
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Zorachus said:
Played the game for a sold hour plus to 90 minutes now.

The controls are doable, I don't love them, but it's manageable and playable.

Graphics of course are truly next gen crazy good.

But I don't know what the heck I'm doing or where to go LOL

Overall the gameplay and lack of in-game tutorial and quest help makes it a bit confusing. The combat is strange to me, with all the buttons on the mouse and keyboard you need to press.

I don't know, it's just not a comfortable game to me, just feels so weird how to control everthing and move around and interact with things, etc...

I'll still give it more time of course, but so far it's just ok to me.
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Learn how to use a controller.
 
TwistedMetalGear said:
Dualsense. The HD haptics and adaptive triggers genuinely enhance the experience. And while not all PC games will support those features, there's a good 160+ games that do.
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Idk.. while I agree that when games support those features they are quite nice, they’re few and far between, and likely will be even more so as Sony has stupidly lost interest in the PC market.

Personally I prefer the Xbox elite controllers, the joystick locations feel better to me (subjective) and if you plan to use them for Souls games you can use your right thumb to switch spells and consumables while maintaining the ability to move, big advantage, probably applies elsewhere too.

Additionally you’ll absolutely find more prevalent out of the box support for Xbox controllers (mapping and prompts).

I definitely give the QC edge to the PS pads though.
 
Zorachus said:
Yeah I might just need to get one.

What's a good recommendation?
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Still rocking several of these from 2005. Hilarious that they are now classed as vintage controllers, but they work with literally everything and are near indestructible.
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Honest question, how does a gamepad controller make playing this game better?

I haven't used a controller in probably 25 years, and even then was briefly, I've been a keyboard and mouse guy since forever. But I'm open to trying the controller for this game if it'll make it more playable?
 
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Zorachus said:
Honest question, how does a gamepad controller make playing this game better?

I haven't used a controller in probably 25 years, and when then was briefly, I've been a keyboard and mouse guy since forever. But I'm open to trying the controller for this game if it'll make it more playable?
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I am not sure this is the game I'd cut my teeth on with a controller.
 
Andym22 said:
I am not sure this is the game I'd cut my teeth on with a controller.
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I am getting somewhat "comfortable" with the controls in this game using K+M, but I'm so lost on what to do and where to go? Or how to upgrade weapons and armor?
 
A controller is only really an improvement over KBM if you're playing a game where you don't control a camera and therefore won't have full 360 degree movement control (Generally top-down action or side-scroller games like Hades or Hollow Knight). For 3rd person games I prefer the controller purely because those types of games are usually chill and the controller allows me to lean back and kick my feet up.

As for what to do and where to go; like most RPGs you kind of just get a quest, go to the location, and then explore the area around it to find more things to do. An Open World RPG like CD changes this up a bit by giving you distractions to investigate on the way to your quest location. In CD you can accomplish quite a few things simply by running around the world and seeing what's there. There are a shit-ton of systems and you won't get access to many of them until after you've done the relevant quests to unlock them.

Its been a while since I played but I think upgrades are pretty standard by RPG metrics. You go to the blacksmith and pay with materials and money to upgrade. There is a blacksmith in the first town (a big ogre sells equipment out front and then the upgrade blacksmith is in the building behind him) but you have to do a few quests before he'll upgrade your stuff IIRC.
 
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I'll probably pass on buying a controller, as it's been decades since I've really used one; back in the 80s/90s with Nintendo and Genesis. Since the mid-90's been 100% PC Gaming 30+ years, keyboard+ mouse 100%.
 
I guess I'm just confused and where to go. When I first started the game after that introduction fight at the campfire. I met that guy ride a horse into the major Castle town.

I just rode right through that didn't really stop cuz I wanted to explore. I spent probably half hour 45 minutes. Just going in the same direction and these different canyons and lakes and stuff like that and then got totally confused and lost on what to do or where to go?

One of the first quests was to arm wrestle some guy I did go back and do that and I lost a bunch of times in a row

Then I went back to exploring. Just kept riding. Got another horse, started killing bandits all over the place and coming across these little towns of people needing help.

Should I just continue being a wanderer?
 
I don't disagree. This game was probably designed with a gamepad/controller in mind and not keyboard and mouse.

My point after several hours playing yesterday I'm starting to get somewhat comfortable with the controls and everything on a keyboard and mouse. I'm worried if I go out and buy a controller. I haven't used one in 30+ years, no joke. Well that then present its own challenges of trying to figure out how to use gamepad controller since I'm not familiar with them at all anymore.

At this point I'm going to continue playing with the keyboard and mouse and it's not even the issue anymore. Like I said, I'm somewhat comfortable with it already. Don't love it but it's workable. I just need to figure out the actual gameplay and quests and stuff
 
Zorachus said:
I guess I'm just confused and where to go. When I first started the game after that introduction fight at the campfire. I met that guy ride a horse into the major Castle town.

I just rode right through that didn't really stop cuz I wanted to explore. I spent probably half hour 45 minutes. Just going in the same direction and these different canyons and lakes and stuff like that and then got totally confused and lost on what to do or where to go?

One of the first quests was to arm wrestle some guy I did go back and do that and I lost a bunch of times in a row

Then I went back to exploring. Just kept riding. Got another horse, started killing bandits all over the place and coming across these little towns of people needing help.

Should I just continue being a wanderer?
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Most quests will show up on the map (you'll be using the map extensively) and there are quite a few in the first 'Castle town'. IIRC a ton of quests also show up in the 'journal' menu. You'll want to do all of the quests (up to like Chapter 5 think) in order to unlock a lot of the mechanics that you'll need for the full world exploration.
 
The entire game is more or less accidentally a tutorial. It teaches the mechanics as you go and encounter things. But the tips and log entries get lost in the length of gameplay. Some times by the time you get to the chapter or encounter that teaches something its a mechanic you actually had access too for many hours.

This also mean you can run off script and aquire things well before the story introduces. And many of these are quality of life improvements as you go.

Just wander. Even if you die its not a big deal.
 
Zorachus said:
Honest question, how does a gamepad controller make playing this game better?

I haven't used a controller in probably 25 years, and even then was briefly, I've been a keyboard and mouse guy since forever. But I'm open to trying the controller for this game if it'll make it more playable?
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In general, 3rd person games play better on a controller as long as they don't require quick twitch aiming. One of the main benefits is analog movement. With WASD, you're limited to moving in 8 directions. With an analog thumbstick, there is no such limitation. The range of movement is much wider. So if you want to correct your characters heading by traveling forward at a 20 degree angle, you can do that. With WASD, you can move forward at 0 degrees or +/- 45 degrees. Nothing in between. So tl;dr, you get more precise control of your character.

Also movement speed. Some games take advantage of analog controls to provide a variety of movement speeds. Tilt the stick forward ever so slightly and you're walking super slow. Tilt it a little more, and you're walking at a normal pace. Even more, you start jogging, And finally, running. Not all games provide this variety of analog movement speeds, but it's a nice perk when they do.

Comfort is a plus too. A controller is much more "lean back and relax" friendly, plus less wrist motion required since you're not constantly sweeping a mouse around.
 
For me I couldn't imagine not using a mouse and keyboard for a soulslike. Never at any time does any game feel awkward or confusing for whatever reason. My keybinds for the most part carry over to every new soulslike I play, so everything is familiar from the get go. I also use the greatest mouse ever made, the logi Mx518 (not even debatable :D), so theres a few extra very comfortable buttons that can be keystroke assigned.

I see this all the time, soulslikes and 3rd person game in general are better with a controller, I just have to lol at it. No offense TwistedMG. I'll take the precision and sophistication of my m/kb. I'm still genuinely curious as to how people are finding CD is not comfortable with mouse/keyboard, because to me it seems like it would play like any other soulslike/3rd person Arpg. Btw I'm back to running a basic $30 membrane tkl keyboard and it is honestly one of the nicest feeling keyboards I've used in a while. I'm over the $400 mechanical keyboards that have everything that no one actually needs yet lack one basic thing; comfort.
 
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