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AMD Ryzen Threadripper TR6 "Mustang Peak" Arrives with "Zen 6" and PCIe 6.0

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another rumor from a single unknown random X user….

“In previous leaks, we learned that "Zen 6" increased the core count to 12 cores per CCD. This is an improvement over the 8 cores per CCD that "Zen 5" currently offers in non-dense configurations. If the CPU maintains its maximum configuration of 12 CCDs, it would result in 144 cores and 288 threads, which is 50% higher than the 96-core, 192-thread configuration of the AMD Ryzen Threadripper 9995WX. AMD's documentation did not suggest any launch date, indicating that we are still months away from the actual release. AMD is likely to start shipping the first "Zen 6" CPUs in the form of server EPYC SKUs, followed by consumer Ryzen, with the HEDT platform being released later.“

Source: https://www.techpowerup.com/350081/...-mustang-peak-arrives-with-zen-6-and-pcie-6-0
 
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I hope we see a 32c AM6 at some point. Now with dimm coming that are 128gb a dimm. Nvme drives that are 8TB now. Maybe even bigger in the future.
 
If DDR6 is there and do what it claim it will, I imagine AMD could do the 32 cores system on those (with how strong successor to zen6 cores dual bandwith ddr5 could make 32cores a bit niche, that much compute with so little bandwith per core, but ddr6 could get twice as fast as reasonable current ddr5 setup)
 
Epyon said:
I hope we see a 32c AM6 at some point. Now with dimm coming that are 128gb a dimm. Nvme drives that are 8TB now. Maybe even bigger in the future.
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I hope that we can afford all this, especially the RAM and NVMe drives by say 2030. Besides won't all the AI datacenters want these so they can upgrade? :mad:
 
32 core client Zen6 seems unlikely. They seem to use one type of CCD per generation. At 32-core model would require 3 CCDs, then, with a total of 4 cores disabled, which is assymetric in at least 2 ways, and maybe it wouldn't even fit on the substrate?
 
1_rick said:
32 core client Zen6 seems unlikely. They seem to use one type of CCD per generation. At 32-core model would require 3 CCDs, then, with a total of 4 cores disabled, which is assymetric in at least 2 ways, and maybe it wouldn't even fit on the substrate?
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very unlikely, Epyon point of AM6 would be zen7 or even 8 as AM5 will support zen4-5-6 at least and possibly 7, you need faster ram for that amount of cores for lot of high cores use case and a platform change to support that faster ram.
 
I will never understand why they'll do "EPYC first, then consumer Ryzen, then Threadripper". In the old days, the HEDT (back when that meant something) released BEFORE the mainstream and that was part of the benefit. Zen6 having 12 cores per CCD is..okay I suppose, nice step up. However, if they're serious about Threadripper they need to get it back to being a "costs more, but does more, best of both worlds" platform. That means putting 3D Vcache on it and ensuring some cores are capable of performing single/few core frequencies and performance equal or better than Ryzen, for enthusiast use.. It may never do as much as EPYC and that's okay for the server heavily parallel workload group, but the additional PCI-E lanes, ideally quad channel RAM, and other benefits make it a step up for those who do something besides pure desktop usage but not enough to justify professional grade server hardware etc.

In late generations it seems like Threadripper has been stupidly expensive EPYC JR only for people who can't afford the real thing, as opposed to the HEDT multi-workload benefit it used to be. I'd love for them to come back to what made HEDT worthwhile, but its getting increasingly frustrating how prices keep getting jacked and we get less and less in comparison, later and later. That's even before the delineation between Threadripper and TR PRO and the insane RAM prices etc.
 
Yeah, I am talking about the next socket change it would be nice to have 32 cores with out going thread ripper. For my work it would be cool as hell. But hey I will take 24 very strong cores that = a thread ripper of today. or close to it.
 
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