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AMD’s new pitch: our old tech is so good you should just keep using it

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AMD is committing to AM5 through 2029 and relaunching old chips.​


  1. Today, AMD is promising it will keep supporting its AM5 desktop motherboard socket with new Ryzen processors through 202
  2. it’s relaunching a “10th Anniversary” edition of the Ryzen 7 5800X3D to celebrate the 10th anniversary of that AM4 platform. That’ll be $349 on June 25th.
  3. a $330 Ryzen 7 7700X3D, likely a binned version of the existing 7800X3D. The beefier chip costs $380 to $450, though it can occasionally be found at $320. On paper, the 7700X3D looks only slightly slower:
  4. in the GPU realm, AMD is finally bringing its formerly China-exclusive Radeon RX 9070 GRE to other countries, including the US, starting June 1st for $549.

AMD’s making an interesting pitch at a time that everything, especially gaming, is beginning to feel too expensive. Does it convince you?

https://www.theverge.com/tech/940524/amd-computex-am5-promise-2029-rx9070gre-7700x3d-5800x3d
 
Correct me if I'm wrong, but....doesn't AMD kinda have to do this?

AMD doesn't have the foothold in AI like Nvidia does. I imagine (don't have reliable data for this) that PC part sales volume has gone down in the last 9 months given prohibitive pricing. If they aren't selling as much of their new stuff, don't they have to make a move to undercut competition? Today, that looks like re-introducing stuff that doesn't require expensive R&D with some new perks at a markup. I'm not sure they have another sector that brings in enough cash.

Pretty much every system I've built has had an AMD component in it (my current rig has a 5800X and I only just recently replaced my Power Color 6700XT with a 4070), so I'm rooting for this to work in favor of consumers hoping to build their first PC.
 
scottypippin said:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but....doesn't AMD kinda have to do this?

AMD doesn't have the foothold in AI like Nvidia does. I imagine (don't have reliable data for this) that PC part sales volume has gone down in the last 9 months given prohibitive pricing. If they aren't selling as much of their new stuff, don't they have to make a move to undercut competition? Today, that looks like re-introducing stuff that doesn't require expensive R&D with some new perks at a markup. I'm not sure they have another sector that brings in enough cash.

Pretty much every system I've built has had an AMD component in it (my current rig has a 5800X and I only just recently replaced my Power Color 6700XT with a 4070), so I'm rooting for this to work in favor of consumers hoping to build their first PC.
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Yeah it doesn't take a genius or a mountain of data to figure out that sales of PC parts to consumers has dropped. many of us want no part of it on principle alone. Couple that with the fact that we seem to get far more out of our systems these days before an upgrade is absolutely required.

I only recently got rid of my 6700XT as well. it was a great card, but I decided to go with a 9070XT. The idea was to be sure I could get through this AI nonsense. I was expecting all video cards to increase in price, didn't really happen as I anticipated but such is life. I don't regret my purchase .
 
THRESHIN said:
I only recently got rid of my 6700XT as well. it was a great card, but I decided to go with a 9070XT. The idea was to be sure I could get through this AI nonsense. I was expecting all video cards to increase in price, didn't really happen as I anticipated but such is life. I don't regret my purchase .
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I did the exact same thing, but substitute a 6700XT for a 3080. It was the "oldest" piece of HW in my rig, and I wanted to get to a point where my system could ride out the inevitable high-pricing storm.

My systems are now solid for years to come; I have no plans to touch any of them or purchase new parts. I'll move on to other hobbies before I pay the current asking prices for HW.
 
could see the scenario of using old stock of binned down but still quite good 8 core zen4 and putting cache on them to add value making a lot of sense, as tsmc 5/zen 4 3d v-cache must be quite mature now and does not mess up zen5 line up as much as a 9700x3d would
 
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