that a bit of a strange one,
- Trade The US now requires licenses for NVIDIA's H20 products so NVIDIA is looking at older unrestricted designs for the Chinese market.
same for the strange the AI world consuming all of the TSMC 3N...
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NVIDIA To Bring Back The GeForce RTX 3060 In Q1 2026 To Tackle Current-Gen GPU & Memory Shortages
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same for the strange the AI world consuming all of the TSMC 3N...
I have previously posted on the topic, but oversimplified, the cutoff is determined based on a ratio of power usage, calculations per second, and die area for the chip.
So even a relatively low-performance product could not make the cut if the die size is too small, or the design is too power efficient, or some combination there in.
But the power/performance ratio gets updated over time, so it is a completely moving target, designed by a committee... Something that everybody everywhere absolutely loves to work with....
it is not systematically used at all, as of now even the rtx 5080 has yet to have any restriction for the Chinese market. some discerning about the capacity to group them together is being used and being marketed as gaming being important.
regardless the rtx 3060 12GB is not a card near the limit of what is accepted, 4060, 4070s, 5060, 5070 (even the 5080) never faced any restriction, it is not in reaction to the H20 (who is not banned anymore and has not been since july 2025..., even the H200 is not banned anymore and it is such different price/product), the article was maybe written by an AI
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Yeah, I oversimplified it. There is extra stuff in there about interconnect transfer speeds for VRAM clustering, which Nvidia handles by limiting NVLink performance on the consumer cards like the 60, 70, and 80 series, but again, the cutoff metric for what is considered too fast also changes over time.
and it tend to go up, not down, which make that article stranger not less.
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Kinda strange that the Radeon RX 5700 XT can out perform the 3060 12GB. What is going on here?
View: https://youtu.be/_tNv1ycM5_U?si=Qvg65x0ohLE632_0
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Most likely that AMD still updated the drivers for increased performance. Social media doesn't always represent reality.
The Relaunch of AMD Ryzen 5800X3D and NVIDIA RTX 3060 Shows Just How Bad It Is For PC Gamers In 2026
Sarfraz KhanApr 18, 2026 at 08:18am EDT
The Relaunch of Ryzen 7 5800X3D and GeForce RTX 3060 is Close, but is it Really Something We Wanted?
AMD Ryzen 7 5800X3D relaunching in Q2 2026By spending a $100 on an AM4 B450/B550 motherboard, $150 on a DDR4 kit, and a budget GPU like Radeon RX 9060 XT, one can build a PC for less than $1300 with a processor like Ryzen 5800X3D that can still crush games easily at 1080p as well as 1440p. Downgrade from RX 9060 XT to RTX 3060, and you can now have a fast 1080p gaming machine for under $1200. Perhaps this is why even the relaunch of the GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB feels refreshing to many.
https://wccftech.com/relaunch-of-amd-ryzen-5800x3d-and-nvidia-rtx-3060-shows-2026-bad-for-pc-gamers/
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Why shouldn't it in a few games? They've always been pretty close in rasterization.
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/geforce-rtx-3060-12-gb.c3682 - 5700XT is listed 6% slower there overall.
I'd still take the 3060 for more VRAM and DLSS, and usable RT as well.
Pretty crazy you have to spend $1200+ for 4-5 year old hardware like this though. DDR4 isn't that much cheaper to justify spending that much on an old platform IMO. So I think this is mostly just enticing for existing AM4 owners to upgrade with. Which I would still only consider the 5800X3D for $250 or less, which is what I spent on one like 3 years ago brand new.
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“NVIDIA GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB Returns in June With AIC Partners ASUS, MSI, Colorful, and GALAX
by AleksandarK Today, 05:43 Discuss (29 Comments)Chinese Board Channels now confirm that NVIDIA's upcoming resurrection of the GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB edition will take place in June, with many of NVIDIA's existing add-in-card (AIC) partners assisting in relaunching this five-year-old GPU. Interestingly, there are rumors that the recently integrated GALAX within the Palit group will be among these partners. Other AIC partners include NVIDIA's usual launch partners like ASUS, Colorful, and MSI. It will be interesting to see whether these AIC partners design new PCBs for the GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB relaunch or use their older designs, which they probably stopped producing years ago. We have already reported that NVIDIA is reintroducing the GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB SKU with a 192-bit wide memory bus.
For this, NVIDIA will once again use Samsung's 8 nm DUV node, as it has in the past. The entire NVIDIA "Ampere" architecture lineup was produced on the 8 nm DUV node, and its return after several years was unexpected. We also reported that the rumored RTX 5050 9 GB edition is reportedly on hold, as NVIDIA is pausing the transition from its 8 GB RTX 5050 "Blackwell" version to a 9 GB model due to the reintroduction of the GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB"Ampere" GPU. Since both of these GPUs compete in the budget segment, the company will reportedly only release the older GeForce RTX 3060 12 GB SKU as its primary entry-level design.”
would be interesting what the following math look like:
When the switch 2 soc prime level of production stop at samsung 8nm + how long it take to make a 3060 total life cycle and how close that would get us to may 2026.... one way that would make a lot of sense is if they simply did not stop 8mm and simply backfilled as switch 2 slowed down, if 3060 rtx get fully made and in stock in may 2026, maybe the gpu die themselve would have hit its prime around ~october 2025
When the switch 2 soc prime level of production stop at samsung 8nm + how long it take to make a 3060 total life cycle and how close that would get us to may 2026.... one way that would make a lot of sense is if they simply did not stop 8mm and simply backfilled as switch 2 slowed down, if 3060 rtx get fully made and in stock in may 2026, maybe the gpu die themselve would have hit its prime around ~october 2025
These cards launched Feb 2021.
1) Are they relevant against anything newer like the 12GB B580 and 8GB 9060XT that will likely be in the same price range?
2) By re releasing these now, does the clock start over on driver support? Will Nvidia commit to another 5 years of drivers at least before obsoleting the cards?
These things are going to have to be cheap to be relevant.
1) Are they relevant against anything newer like the 12GB B580 and 8GB 9060XT that will likely be in the same price range?
2) By re releasing these now, does the clock start over on driver support? Will Nvidia commit to another 5 years of drivers at least before obsoleting the cards?
These things are going to have to be cheap to be relevant.
They need to be well priced of course, :
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4131 8000&d=9060xt+8gb
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&page=1
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/search...RX+9060+XT&sp=Price-Low-To-High&st=9060xt+8gb
9060xt 8gb seem hard to find under $360 or b580 under $300, if that cheaper than the street price of the 5050, say at $249 it place itself a tier below price wise, 9060xt is 50% more powerful but people would have heard a lot of noise about 8GB and ~$100-110 is good money in that product tier.... and Intel is intel, if they charge 20% more for ~20% more performance, Nvidia branding can get it done.
https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?N=4131 8000&d=9060xt+8gb
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/#sort=price&page=1
https://www.bestbuy.com/site/search...RX+9060+XT&sp=Price-Low-To-High&st=9060xt+8gb
9060xt 8gb seem hard to find under $360 or b580 under $300, if that cheaper than the street price of the 5050, say at $249 it place itself a tier below price wise, 9060xt is 50% more powerful but people would have heard a lot of noise about 8GB and ~$100-110 is good money in that product tier.... and Intel is intel, if they charge 20% more for ~20% more performance, Nvidia branding can get it done.
Newegg's got Onix B580 cards in stock for $290. From what I hear they're ok. You can get a 9060xt for $340 on Amazon. That's a little higher than I remember them recently, but that's everything these days.
It's going to be interesting. If the 3060 12GB is... I don't know... the same price as the cheapest B580 at $290 which one do you buy? The much newer Intel card that probably has stronger RT and definitely has better video encoding, or the established old tech from Nvidia?
It's going to be interesting. If the 3060 12GB is... I don't know... the same price as the cheapest B580 at $290 which one do you buy? The much newer Intel card that probably has stronger RT and definitely has better video encoding, or the established old tech from Nvidia?
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I got an Onix Lumi B580 I got a while back on sale, plus using a coupon for $219.09 after taxes. Performs similarly to a GTX 2070 Super, between a RTX 3070 and a RTX 4060. I get a stable +260 Core Clock overclock with it.
Cyberpunk 2077, 1080P, Native:
Red Dead Redemption 2, 1080P, Native:
